Did I deserve this 14 day ban?

CJslick··2 votes·1,100 views

So last month I was banned for 14 days, I was reading RiotLytes ask.fm earlier saying people who have gotten 7-14 day banned are due to excessive toxicity SUCH AS racism, homophobia, etc. Anything that ranges from "hey get cancer" to "go kill urself"

So right here is my tribunal case, i'm still unsure to how this was a 14 day ban, but I am 100%! sure I have never told anyone to get cancer or anything like that, the worst things I say are firstly, "Ok _ just play passive and dont feed any more, we got this"

continues feeding

"ok stop just ward and farm under turret"

no wards and tower dives and starts blaming jungler

"ok man, wtf was that? that was entirely your fault, you shouldn't be doing that. All I told you was to ward and farm under turret but that wasnt what you did"

^ apparently this is considered "toxicl

http://link.email.riotgames.com/t.d?C4Gt_mmPcyyqwF=/@HTML_2PREVIEW_2LINK_0a=1CCT_2etp7Rq8L2gtqm04Baw5&msgVersion=web

Now, in my case, I may have gotten a little heated, but at the beginning of the game I was REALLY trying to stop my team mates from being toxic, maybe I should have just shut up, but everyone reacts to situations differently.

I'm still unsure how this was a 14-day ban, I never complained to Riot that I got a 14 day ban, I just took the 14 day ban because I heard there was a new system, and 4-5 months before this ban I got a 5 game chat restriction, so I had though after restrictions you go from a month ban to 14 day ban instead. 5 games people, I see tons of people with a 35-100+ chat restriction and I have no idea how they accumulated that much.

Anyways, its to you guys to see wether my case was worth a 14 day ban. Because i'm pretty sure 14 day bans are for the most toxic players in the league community.

I'm a little upset that I wont be getting ranked rewards, but 2 days ago Lyte said they were still considering changes, but his post earlier today sounded more like a final decision. I'm really upset that this was delivered to us very, very late. I've tried my best this season to get to gold. Over 600+ ranked games, down the drain and I dont get my rewards. =|

13 Comments

ModThe Djinn6 votes

"idiot team" "i'll wait 10 minutes so you dont get the lp if we win" "useless ez and singed" "or do something stupid"

The above is all definitely something I'd consider reporting you for. You also neglected to pull those lines out from your list of toxic things you said. THOSE are the reason that (from the game at least) you got hit with a ban.

Now, I might not PERSONALLY report you for THIS game, but ONLY because you tried to be the voice of reason ahead of time, and after that your transgressions, while definitely present, at least weren't hugely vitriolic. I'd definitely strongly consider it though, especially if I were Ezreal or Singed.

However, you only end up in a position for bans if you get reports in a decent sample size of your games: one bad game will NOT cause a review of your account.

Ergo you've had at least a decent number of games where this sort of thing occurs. With that in mind, I do think it's deserved.

Are you in the worst % of players? Absolutely not. But I'd take a look at your mid-to-late game chat performance: it looks like, although you try to be the voice of reason early on, you let things get under your skin and start chat-tilting until you're throwing out insults and threats. Remember: even if it's ranked, it's just a game -- you may lose those 20lp and have to win another game, but that's better than insulting your teammates (no matter HOW bad they were to you first).

CJslick1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=oB821xuy,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-08-22T15:15:08.589+0000)

"i'll wait 10 minutes so you dont get the lp if we win" "useless ez and singed" "or do something stupid"

The above is all definitely something I'd consider reporting you for. You also neglected to pull those lines out from your list of toxic things you said. THOSE are the reason that (from the game at least) you got hit with a ban.

Now, I might not PERSONALLY report you for THIS game, but ONLY because you tried to be the voice of reason ahead of time, and after that your transgressions, while definitely present, at least weren't hugely vitriolic. I'd definitely strongly consider it though, especially if I were Ezreal or Singed.

However, you only end up in a position for bans if you get reports in a decent sample size of your games: one bad game will NOT cause a review of your account.

Ergo you've had at least a decent number of games where this sort of thing occurs. With that in mind, I do think it's deserved.

Are you in the worst % of players? Absolutely not. But I'd take a look at your mid-to-late game chat performance: it looks like, although you try to be the voice of reason early on, you let things get under your skin and start chat-tilting until you're throwing out insults and threats. Remember: even if it's ranked, it's just a game -- you may lose those 20lp and have to win another game, but that's better than insulting your teammates (no matter HOW bad they were to you first).

I understand, but those words I said, wouldn't the worst case scenario be a chat ban or a ranked ban? Like I said at the beginning of the post, 7-14 day bans are of the worst of the worst. Like "get cancer, kill urself, u dont deserve to be here, uninstalll etc"

ModThe Djinn1 votes

{quoted}I understand, but those words I said, wouldn't the worst case scenario be a chat ban or a ranked ban? Like I said at the beginning of the post, 7-14 day bans are of the worst of the worst. Like "get cancer, kill urself, u dont deserve to be here, uninstalll etc"

Source for that quote from Lyte? I recall those being an IMMEDIATE jump to a 7 or 14 day ban, but it's possible you've accumulated enough of a back-log that the system felt the 14-day was appropriate: I also can't see the logs for any other game, so I'll have to take your word that you never say things like that.

Have you ever been chat restricted or banned in any previous seasons?

CJslick1 votes

Yes I got chat restricted once for 5 games. thats why i thought a 14 day ban was if you say things like that after a chat restriction. But the chat restiction was wayyyyy back like all the way last winter.

5 chat restrictions, I still have no clue how I didnt deserve atleast 10+ chat restrictions other than a 14 day ban. So now I miss out on my ranked rewards.

Sarutobi2 votes

Remember as people state time and time again the bans are for continuous toxic behavior. This is only one games of probably many that you were toxic in, and this just so happen to be the final one till the ban finally got issued. Learn from this and hopefully you change your attitude!

CJslick1 votes

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Remember as people state time and time again the bans are for continuous toxic behavior. This is only one games of probably many that you were toxic in, and this just so happen to be the final one till the ban finally got issued. Learn from this and hopefully you change your attitude!

I have changed my attitude, but it came to such a late notice that I wont be getting my rewards for getting banned. I completely understand that they put up a system in 2014 that if you get banned you get 0 rewards. I didn't find it until I saw Lyte's post in reddit. I thought his system was about reform? yet for some reason I won't be getting rewards. There was a notification that ranked 2015 were available but had 0 information. Like I said, is this really what triggered a 14 day ban? if so then what triggers a 100+ chat restriction cause at least they would have still gotten their season rewards. "but this year, we're making it super obvious who gets rewards or not: if you reformed and don't have ACTIVE Chat or Ranked Restrictions at the season cutoff, you'll be fine. However, since 2014 we've launched the new escalated bans which targets excessive toxicity such as severe verbal abuse, racism, sexism and other hate speech, and we believe that these types of behaviors should be treated with 0 tolerance. So, players that got the 7-14 day game bans for extreme toxicity will not be eligible for rewards this year"

LaceUp231 votes

No you didn't. At all lol. You actually tried to calm down your team. Lyte is trying to create a toxic environment, though.

CJslick1 votes

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No you didn't. At all lol. You actually tried to calm down your team. Lyte is trying to create a toxic environment, though.

I asked a couple of friends and they said the same thing. I know you guys might say "but your ban wasnt from 1 game" yeah, well. I'm willing to bet that all my other games were the same situation. And if I ever did get to the point to where the dude muted me, I wait 10 minutes and ask a team mate if he can unmute me so I can apologize, and everything is fine after that

Hell Week1 votes

you've probably being muted before with several strikes. yes you deserved to get banned. keep your comments to yourself next time? or put them up here in the boards, feels so much better lol.

CJslick1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Hell Week,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=oB821xuy,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2015-08-22T16:37:56.878+0000)

you've probably being muted before with several strikes. yes you deserved to get banned. keep your comments to yourself next time? or put them up here in the boards, feels so much better lol.

I got muted once back in December. 5 chat restriction.

Hell Week1 votes

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I got muted once back in December. 5 chat restriction.

for some reason i don't believe you... iv'e been muted a lot of times, but not 1 ban.

CJslick1 votes

I'm 100% honest, never gotten more than 5 games chat restriction, surprisingly

CJslick1 votes

I'm 100% honest, never gotten more than 5 games chat restriction, surprisingly

[{quoted}](name=Hell Week,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=oB821xuy,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2015-08-22T16:44:58.027+0000)

for some reason i don't believe you... iv'e been muted a lot of times, but not 1 ban.

I would have rather taken 50+ chat bans, trust me.

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