Wasn't Kassadin nerfed because he had to much mobility?

FancyKiwi·Jun 1, 2015·16 votes·1,231 views

He was nerfed countless times with a light rework yet we have champs like Kalista and Ekko that Kassadin would yell at to stop moving.

15 Comments

BijornJun 1, 20159 votes

Ekko is not NEARLY as mobile as Kass was. I do agree that Kass was nerfed far far too hard but saying Ekko is on the same level is ridiculous. He will get nerfed.

At least he doesn't get his E reset if he kills someone or gets an assist. That would be pretty crazy, right? cough Katarina

RPGZexionJun 1, 20152 votes

Nah, instead he just presses R, gets a double and walks away with more than half health to continue the chase.

Vistha KaiJun 1, 20152 votes

Happened way too often that between Zhonya and W shield people couldn't kill me fast enough, then POP and they took 1.4k magic damage in AoE...

Triple kill!

BijornJun 2, 20151 votes

Agreed that Ekko has some major outplay potential. I feel like the healing on his ult is a bit too much. But everything else I think is ok. Iv played against quite a few like everyone else, and I didn't have too much difficulty in shutting him down early. His ult is easy to avoid. It is kind of a zoning tool of its own which is interesting for sure.

I think we need to wait about two more weeks before people understand how to shut him down as well as for slight changes to his kit because, lets be honest, there will be changes made.

SmokinSickStyleJun 1, 20156 votes

Kassadin now is literally devoid (heh) of anything that made him an assassin.

"Kass too mobile, silence + burst+mobility OP please nerf" Meanwhile Leblanc

So Rito "fixed him" by nerfing all the aspects, instead of one.

His full "damage" combo is less or the same as TWO of LeBroken abilities.

Yet Kass isn't much tankier or more mobile than LB in his current state.

Imho they should have given his damage back after gutting his mobility spell and removing his silence and making his shield barely noticeable (Meanwhile Ekko has 1k+ shield lategame that works against all sources.).

junglerboy16Jun 1, 20153 votes

Kass is actually quite tanky vs AP because of his passive and Q shield, but he is arguably less mobile, much less damaging, and much worse at wave clear or fighting at anywhere that far outside melee range.

SmokinSickStyleJun 1, 20151 votes

Kass is melee, he used to have mr\lvl plus his passive, now he got it removed despite being melee so his tankyness is not much bigger than any other melee that gets mr\lvl, yes it's percentage, and cannot be penetrated, but it's not as good as you think it is.

He also has very low hp\lvl for a melee.

His shield was good when they buffed it (Same ratio as Ekko 0.8 AP , just for magic dmg), then it was deemed too strong and instead of toning it down they flat out gutted it to it's previous state, which is the same as now.

Trust me, when i play Kass i feel like i have absolutely no advantage against AP casters \ magic damage whatsoever.

There are so many ways they could have made him the perfect anti-mage yet they when for the guttering and all these "reworks" that have become a trend lately where a champion gets his abilities "slightly" modified or completely twisted into nothingness resulting in a failure considering Riot's goal for that champ.

Take Cass, quick story, Lanebully? Lemme nerf, oh sorry, "rework" you into sh!t with monstruous late, people complained, Cass got buffed and she got to what she was before the rework, with almost all the benefits she has in the lategame, they basically didn't solve anything, they actually worsened it.

The only real reworks are the ones like Sion's, which is arguably the best thing Riot could have ever done in terms of champ rebalancing.

Kassadin's current state is, get randomly fed or wait and hope the game doesn't end before 30m so you can have enough burst to drop a squishy's HP to 20% from 100%, and if they have banshee you better stay afk in base.

Literally the only thing that saves him is mobility to pick off kills like any champ mid with mobility does.

Spicy RiceJun 1, 20153 votes

I can't believe I found a thread that agrees kass needs buffs.

Its like finding a unicorn riding on top of a jumbojet

Have my upvotes

BeoridasJun 1, 20151 votes

actually. there is a crushing majority that thinks that. The issue at the moment is some of the freaking pros thinks hes ok since he can sort of clean up....but they usually lose the game regardless. Riot wont buff him because of the pros.

warpenguin555Jun 1, 20152 votes

Ekko just came out lol. of course he hasnt been nerfed

A Miss FortuneJun 1, 20151 votes

Zyra

AlëkJun 1, 20151 votes

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Ekko just came out lol. of course he hasnt been nerfed

Couldn't say the same about release Zyra. She was so OP they had to nerf her 2 days after release.

fractalfantasiesJun 1, 20152 votes

The problem with Kassadin was the fact that as soon as he hit six he could be ganking other lanes despite any efforts to ward against him, he would simply riftwalk past them. Yeah Ekko does need some taps, but neither LB, Ekko or Kalista have the problem Kass did.

TransgressorJun 1, 20152 votes

No, Kassadin was ruined(that's not a nerf, he got worse treatment than Olaf and a halfassed update) because a scapegoat was needed to silence the scrubs of low elo. There was a need for a sacrificial lamb, and Kassadin got his ass handed over to him. Now he's but a memory of a distant past, a victim of the circumstances.

BeoridasJun 1, 20151 votes

well ekko can outplay kass pretty hard ON TOP of not costing as much mana. Kass was nerfed in everyway possible. Dmg nerfed, risks nerfed, rewards nerfs, CC nerfs, mana need nerfs, silence removal, mobility nerfs.