totally serious question(s)

Bouzi·7/2/2015, 6:22:15 AM·1 votes·548 views

how do you defend against a counter matchup?

what do you do when their jungle camps you?

what to do when they dont leave but your jungle never comes?

and finally what do you do when you have an afk and they just duo lane someone?

people say carry harder but i dont understand how to do these things w/o any help from your team...people afk and just refuse to help the team while feeding at the same time....

how do you win in this situation?

(btw this is under the assumption that the enemy isnt dumb and doesnt walk under your turret etc and they push together while you back...keep in mind people are gated by mana so farm under turret only works for so long and 2 backs and theres no more turret)

5 Comments

CharQueen7/2/2015, 6:23:11 AM1 votes

Google?

Bouzi7/2/2015, 6:35:01 AM1 votes

everyone always says carry harder, so i figure theyd have an answer to this...and google wont help id rather hear it from someone who has dealt with it

honestly imo, which gets downvoted for some reason, 4v5s doesnt depend on how good you do but rather how bad their team does...

they have an extra person lol

Minarde7/2/2015, 7:16:05 AM1 votes

how do you defend against a counter matchup?

It depends on the match-up. Oftentimes, especially in lower MMRs, people don't understand why one champ is strong against another champ. In general, play defensively and wait for teamfights.

what do you do when their jungle camps you?

Ward gank routes. Tell your team when the enemy jungler is near you, so the rest of the team knows they can be more aggressive without fearing ganks.

what to do when they dont leave but your jungle never comes?

Play defensively. Give up the outer tower if you have to. Let your jungler exert map pressure elsewhere instead of attempting a risky 2v2 when you're behind.

and finally what do you do when you have an afk and they just duo lane someone?

Not much. Try to carry as well as you can, but realize your team is at a disadvantage. Worst case, just use the game as an opportunity to practice your mechanics.

people say carry harder but i dont understand how to do these things w/o any help from your team...people afk and just refuse to help the team while feeding at the same time....

how do you win in this situation?

Understand that bad games happen. Ranked is a grind, so play more games. With enough games, the impact of trolls or afks should be minimal compared to your personal impact. Remember to take occasional breaks to avoid going on tilt though.

iRainbøwDash7/2/2015, 9:32:53 AM1 votes

1.- You don't fight, you build resistances against him. Ex. Riven: You build armor. 2.- You ward, a lot keep trace of the enemy jungle, if you're top ward the camps so you know when he's near. 3.- You just let them take turret and roam, I mean... people overrate turrets. Why would you let them deny you farm and get kills for some gold you can get in other lanes ganking and getting objectives. 4.- Make the calls, UPGRADE YOUR F*CKING TRINKET and ward, splitpush sometimes works.

Bouzi7/2/2015, 11:11:31 AM1 votes

so your telling me i should spend the little money im getting in the 1v2 on wards when im not leaving my turret? doesnt seem ideal

obv you dont fight and farm under tower 1v2

i let them take the turret and roam? doesnt seem logical....its logical in the sense of thats what your supposed to do but not logical due to the fact everyone seems to die 5+ times and lose turret before level 6... sure if people knew how to play this would work, but in my elo where everyone is complete trash this doesnt work...you just gonna lose your turret to go bot and either give that fed person a triple kill or you go there and get nothing while losing a turret

now what happens when they just keep pushing? im gonna let them just take mid? dont say your teammates will help because they wont lol thats the whole point of this thread, what do you do when you have a troll or afk or someone who just refused to help the team in any way?

calls are bad and only for one reason, ill tell you bout the game i just got done playing

i was support (did most damage in the game for both teams) my lane was super fed, mid fed hard tho, so did top, so did jungle...so we roam and me and the adc catch a good fight and we ace the team with 5 people on our side still up.... i call baron and instead they went and farmed buffs in jungle then backed and ran to baron...i ping em off and say its to late your time was 30s ago and they didnt care, ran in gave em 4 kills and gave enemy free baron....

so someone gets the idea to do drag...i ping no, not only do they got baron but they went straight there so they are going to have more people or its going to be done already....did they listen? no they ran in 1 at a time and we got aced again (minus me because i was trying to defend super minions because nobody wanted to clear the 2 lanes worth of them pouring in)....got to the point baron spawned again and enemy team was already on the way so i said the same thing again, again they didnt listen, we got aced and lost the game

my question is how do you carry people who just -refuse to listen to any calls even if you explain why they are right (which you shouldnt even have to) -refuse to help the team in any way and just afk farm and go 0/11 -bad mechanics, no idea what they are doing -run in 1v5 when nobodies even low and teammates arent anywhere close

-all this while the enemy team, isnt great, but just isnt full blow down syndrome -while their jungle is camping your lane and never leaves, while your jungle not only doesnt show up to your lane but doesnt show up to any

this happens almost every other game and it seems as soon as i hit my series my next 10 games are just ruined by people who meet all these details listed.....

its like a bunch of adults playing basket ball, but on one team theres only one adult and some 5 yr olds..... idc how hard you can possibly carry or play there is just no way to win this situation and it literally happens almost every game

even with their jungle camping me i usually manage to punish some dumb thing they do and get ahead, but then i end up losing cuz i make the right calls and people do the opposite, they fed a shitton, and they refuse to help eachother

these people need to be banned honestly, theres nothing wrong with being bad.....but str8 refusing to play, refusing to listen, refusing to help.....is just untolerable......and it happens SO often and esp when i get near series

(this week ive gotten to my series 6 times....yes 6 times this WEEK, and everytime i get into my series the same thing happens) first series game i get an afk and we surrender then series game i win lane super hard and numerous teammates go 0/13

then im back down to w/e points im at (usually around 60-70) then my next games all the way down to 0 points is just people who do this type of stuff

then as almost if magic, once i hit 0 points, it goes from team knows how to play, team doesnt know how to play, rinse and then when you manage to carry those bad people somehow and you get to series again, it starts all over

(id love riot to look up my last 6 series and tell me how many afks ive had in it and show me one set of series i didnt have an afk in my first game (because its happened in all of them)

yes u can say im salt but shit wouldnt you be when your doing everything right but your losing because people dont even wanna play? or they do but dont know how and refuse to listen to reason/help the team?

these series are getting old, as i win games i should be moving up meaning not only the enemy gets better but so does my team....giving me people on hardcore tilts and won like 5/20 of their last games vrs all higher ranked and like 15/20 wins in their last 20 just seems not only rigged but a retarded way to handle "promotion"

honestly im just tired of being helpless against the inevitable outcome of me losing lp because its a 5v5 game and i only got 3 1/2 players