As if Devourer wasn't bad enough

Irasiel·Mar 31, 2015·74 votes·5,028 views

When you build it, you get the Debuff :''Allies will now actively try to empty all your camps in your jungle''

31 Comments

Spacesuit SpiffApr 1, 201526 votes

I can confirm. I had a support go afk because I smited the wolves he was clearing. Apparently Blitz just scales that well.

GhostOfShrimpmasApr 1, 201516 votes

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I can confirm. I had a support go afk because I smited the wolves he was clearing. Apparently Blitz just scales that well.

Have you seen his AP ratios? I report anyone who doesn't funnel gold into Blitzcrank.

DemiluniSApr 1, 20153 votes

well, tbh there's nothing more annoying than someone coming to a camp you already started, and taking it, it's worse than taxing

ZombieNinja WarApr 1, 20154 votes

as a jungle main you have a lane get gold there. you can take the small ones all day i want my stacks. you don't take kills from people who have staking items. don't take camps from staking jungle items. sorry, if im ganking feel free to take my camps idc. if im in my jungle don't take my farm. i also don't tax lanes tho.

1st HanarSpectreApr 1, 20151 votes

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as a jungle main you have a lane get gold there. you can take the small ones all day i want my stacks. you don't take kills from people who have staking items. don't take camps from staking jungle items. sorry, if im ganking feel free to take my camps idc. if im in my jungle don't take my farm. i also don't tax lanes tho.

When people wander through the jungle it usually means laning phase is over, at which point everything is free game to anyone. So do feel free to go to empty lane to farm them, if they start pining you back then that's when you know they are dumb as shit anyway and you shouldn't bother trying to reason with them.

ZombieNinja WarApr 1, 20151 votes

I Get your point. but my team will take all the small ones and i take the big one if i have a staking item and i let them have kills if they have a staking item. teamwork op.

DemiluniSApr 1, 20151 votes

it's not the point. If I already taking the camp, and you passing by, just let the person who started the camp finish it. If someone taking camps it's either because the lane pushed or he need a bit of gold to finish an item. If I'm in an area, I don't feel like going to other area to get the gold I need just because the jungler thinks he's entitled for the camps.

ZombieNinja WarApr 2, 20152 votes

i smite the big ones and i am entitled to them my jungle. a stack is worth more then the gold you will get from the camp in my opinion. clear the next camps small minions to finish item. especially with the new buffs you get from smite you are wasting those too.

Champion SkinApr 3, 20151 votes

The jungler also get more gold

And this is also why there is no such thing as KS... especially if the kill would have gotten no assists if it wasn't "stolen"... As a kill with an assist is worth 50% more to the team (or more if the player is on an assist spree)

IcyPepperApr 3, 20151 votes

just because the jungler thinks he's entitled for the camps.

Well, um, he is. Just the same way the adc is entitled to minions while the support is not. I mean, yeah, it's annoying if they just take a camp, but they got some measure of entitlement especially because of smite buffs. If you got a tank jungler, taking krugs is usually fine, but not the frog. If the jungle is constantly invaded, leave wolves. Ask for chickens in case the jungler needs to deny vision. Red and blue buff are, well, it's usually best if they're secure mid/late game, most junglers don't care about them anymore as long as you aren't guaranteed to die (seriously, if you feed mid and can't play safe, don't take blue. Catch up first).

TheTyeGuyApr 1, 20159 votes

Devourer? I hardly know er!

Bard in a DiaperApr 1, 20158 votes

LOL THIS JUST HAPPENED TO ME IN A GAME. I smited gromp buff (which gives the ridiculous passive, and a devourer stack) and my adc afked. and this is fucking high diamond were talking about. unbelievable.

Sona PingApr 1, 20151 votes

What's hard to believe? Do you still believe that some badge means anything about the player? League is still played by people, and a lot of people are fools or children.

DemiluniSApr 1, 20151 votes

what it has to do with rank? just like people raging when someone intentionally coming to their lane to take their farm, same way it feels when someone just coming and taking a jungle monster you already doing, especially if he got it low already. And it's more of a selfish behavior of the jungler than the person taking it, since the resources given for the entire team, and not to the person that got them in his specific lane/jungle.

Champion SkinApr 2, 20151 votes

Well... the jungler get more gold which means more gold for the team also there is the smite buff which the jungler can benefit from and if the jungler wanted or needed that smite buff he/she has no choice but to either smite steal it from the ally taking it or hope it is on enough health to survive the smite

DemiluniSApr 3, 20151 votes

but it's rarely the case, especially mid game, the only jungle camp you'd really want to smite late game is the gromp if you playing a tank. People acting like it's such of a big deal, you not running the entire game thinking about what camp you gonna smite, it's matter of opportunity, and taking it from someone that already taking it is just a douche behavior, no matter how much you playing around it, it makes you no different from the people who saying "my lane, my farm"

Champion SkinApr 3, 20151 votes

Well then again... why would you be taking the jungle if the jungler is around? Like taking the junglers only source of income is just such douche behavior the "my lane, my farm" guys... they don't help... but as long as they don't flame or anything.. then whatever...

DemiluniSApr 3, 20151 votes

if it would be the jungler's only source of income, junglers would just sit in the jungle and farm camps for 20 minutes. I'm not talking about if the jungle around, and even then, it's like someone farming the lane and someone else coming to take it even tho someone already farming the lane, it's simply annoying. Even if you're the jungler, just go to the next camp, usually people smart enough to figure out when they can take a jungle camp or not

AbrahamBaconhamApr 1, 20157 votes

My fucking friend will do this, and he keeps saying shit like "it's always more important for the carry to get gold"

Yeah, but that doesn't mean you need to actively take gold away from your tank and initiator, jackass!

TwitchInMyPantsApr 1, 20151 votes

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My fucking friend will do this, and he keeps saying shit like "it's always more important for the carry to get gold"

Yeah, but that doesn't mean you need to actively take gold away from your tank and initiator, jackass!

A camp gives at most 60 gold. A wave of minions gives about 20 per minion and about 30 for a cannon minion wave so you're getting about 120-150 gold per wave on top of gold generated over time. A carry doesn't need more than a single camp after the jungler rotates to a different part of the map, stealing camps from the jungler should never be necessary lol. Unless they'd rather have the Infinity edge on their squishy carry and a tank that can't help them due to being too squish :v

Then again Devo means you're doing a carry build yourself so it's honestly worse to steal from you since if you don't have your damage you basically don't have fight presence

SerevasApr 1, 20151 votes

I may be one of the few with this situation, but as of late I rarely have the ADC carrying a game anyway, they're often there and doing okay, but it's more common for the mid laner or even a damage based top/jungle to be carrying the game than the ADC these days.

At least that's what I've been experiencing all season and a fair part of the last. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying that the ADCs are garbage or anything, because there are those carry ADCs that I run into from time to time that completely decimate a game, but it just seems like as of late those types of ADCs are few and far between.

Killer X 12Mar 31, 20152 votes

Thought it said "Devourers" and i was like "POE? wtf? "

l Mamba l 24Apr 1, 20151 votes

One word: TAX

UiruApr 1, 20151 votes

I generally don't care if they take my camps when I'm not there but when they jump in and intentionally steal them AS I AM CLEARING THEM, it just smacks of "I want to make us lose faster because I've given up". ~Uiru

UndeadmerlinApr 1, 20151 votes

WHen you have a blade of the ruined king as well as 100 stacks on shyvana, everything melts.

kcStrangerApr 1, 20151 votes

The important thing to keep in mind, I think, is that the reason for letting the jungler have camps even into the late game isn't because the jungler has a God-given right to those camps. The fact is it's a team game, and the "give the Mid/ADC the gold" strategy is potentially the most conducive to winning. However, due to building Machete (and related items), the jungler gets bonus gold for killing large monsters, so it makes sense that the default should be for the jungler to get the camps.

DemiluniSApr 1, 20151 votes

but if the jungler not there at the moment someone started the camp, and just coming and smiting it, it's just a douche behaviour, if the person started the camp, give it to him, keeping good atmosphere in the team is better than 2 stacks of devourer.

kcStrangerApr 1, 20151 votes

To be honest, I personally don't care at all about this sort of "etiquette" stuff. The only thing that matters in my mind is what the proper play is for the team...that is, the play that will maximize the team's chance of winning.

However, it's also true that this sort of thing does piss some people off, and pissing off your teammates does hinder your chances of winning.

juaumzitusApr 1, 20151 votes

I'm even against the "junglers have to leave kills", I mean, if the junglers get more kills, they can gank other lanes better. Of course if that Lee Sin gets 90% of the kills in game, the team won't be able to capitalize the advantage, but the jungler has to bear with the lowest gold income and low cost items, they need some sort of gold income to let them gank better too. Especially if the lane is already winning/

azrolatorApr 2, 20151 votes

The 2 big camps spawn far apart, with top laner taking the camp next to them and bottom taking whats next to them, that leaves the jungler with 2 camps. They could try to gank instead, but good luck with that if the jungler is farming 2 camps for gold and exp vs a laner. Same people that farm ally jungle are the ones complaining that the jungler is feeding when they come to gank. If you help your jungler get underleveled and underfunded and then ping for them to come die in your lane, the fault is your own. I liked AS junglers with devourer. Instead of capping the damage or making it take longer to stack, they made it horribly weak to start. I usually just pick warrior one instead now because of the nerfs and because of laners making it impossible to stack often.