Explain the Logic behind this pls..

Tehlawlfirm·Sep 11, 2015·1 votes·570 views

Anyone want to give me a reason why if the client crashes or i have to restart my computer to get back in game why I should help my team win when I'm going to get punished for it anyways? I have had times where that has happened.. I come back and help my team win and even sometimes carry them but if i'm going to get punished for the 5 minutes i was away why should I spend the next 20- 30 -40 minutes helping my team win? I'm already flagged and getting punished.. you just encouraged me to afk the rest of the game.

Did good 'ol Dr. Lyte not put that into consideration? Because it happens all the time were people afk and don't come back because they have already been flagged and there really is no point in coming back to the game to help them win when you will be punished regardless.

12 Comments

MimySep 11, 20151 votes

There were times where I had trouble getting into my games and I came back and still did pretty good,(And I haven't been punished) Apologized to my team about it. Sometimes your team can be very understanding and say "All Good, least you came back"

I think the actual coming back looks better then never showing up the all known term of "Better late then never"

Edit: Me and a team were fighting a 4v5 because our Wukong never came. we all figured it was a client crash.. but it wasent till 25+ minutes he came back. the teams were pretty even at that point and we just told wukong to stay in base and collect farm and sponge a few levels..

Being that both teams were close as a 4v5... then the wukong coming back... Idk if im right to think this but perhaps the fact that wukong came back sorta tipped the tide for us to win.

TehlawlfirmSep 11, 20151 votes

You get flagged by leave buster, you weren't punished yet but it builds up. I'm not saying morally you shouldn't come back and help your team because it is the right thing to do.. I'm just saying where is the logic behind it. If you afk and come back and win you will get flagged and punished down the road as if you afked from the start and never came back.

EggstealerSep 11, 20151 votes

I have had internet issues for quite a while and will DC for like 2 minutes about 1 or 2 times a night and I haven't been punished ever while playing for well over a year.

SmokedAlmondsSep 11, 20151 votes

If people want to be selfish there's nothing riot can do about it. After a few minutes it doesn't matter much anyway. imo preventing the next AFK is more important than a mostly futile attempt to salvage the current game. After a few minutes the chances a game can be recovered go down exponentially.

TehlawlfirmSep 11, 20151 votes

Actually there is something Riot can do.. That's the problem. People are so damn quick to defend Riot on so many mistakes and ignore common sense.. don't punish people who get back in game and have a positive affect.. simple , easy, logic.

SmokedAlmondsSep 11, 20151 votes

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Actually there is something Riot can do.. That's the problem. People are so damn quick to defend Riot on so many mistakes and ignore common sense.. don't punish people who get back in game and have a positive affect.. simple , easy, logic.

Its still a net negative, even if you salvage some of the damage you caused. DCing with any kind of regularity is unacceptable. Leaving for even a few minutes is detrimental to a game.

Your idea here is short sighted. You want to prioritize 1 game over all future games.

TehlawlfirmSep 11, 20151 votes

How is an emergency that comes up unacceptable? Please explain that logic.. you sit down to play a game of league and you get a phone call that your kid just got in an accident.. it's unacceptable to get up and rush to the hospital? Is that seriously your logic...?

How about when Riot's client itself crashes and you get a bug splat? Am I suppose to take the blame for that as we'll? Or.. how about you are playing a game and lightning hits the power box and everyone for miles around loses power.. is that my fault too? Your logic seems to be as dumb as Riots...

SmokedAlmondsSep 12, 20151 votes

An individual leave is insignificant. Shit happens, but none of that should be happening often enough to get punished. If it is you need to be looking at what is causing you to leave/DC so much, not blaming riot for punishing you for ruining other peoples games.

TehlawlfirmSep 13, 20151 votes

Apparently you don't have kids or a job I guess?

7 days out of the week -

First day, you log on and play a couple games. You are on your fourth game and someone knocks on the door.. Do you ignore who is knocking at the door? no.. So you get up to see who it is and it's your neighbor...He wants to borrow something from your garage to fix his car. You go out get the tool and give it to him and come back to the game you are flagged despite coming back 20 seconds after your flagged and carrying your team.

Second day, you log on after work and you play a few games and no interruptions.

3rd day, you log on after work and play a few games. 3rd game in all of a sudden your kid trips and falls.. gets hurt and you have to get up in the middle of a game to check on him. You don't rush it obviously because it's your kid and your kid is more important then the game. You help your kid out, calm him down give him a bandaid and he goes back to playing. You get back to the game you are flagged despite coming back in and helping your team win.

4th day, You don't play.

5th day, you play a few games after work and no interruptions.

6th day, you have the day off you play 5 games. on the 2nd game you get a call from your boss asking your to come into work.. Do you tell your boss give me 40 minutes while I finish this game? no.. He needs you there asap so you say sorry guys my boss called i have to go to work. So you leave the game get ready and go to work, you can't help your team win but your team understands and says it's ok. Doesn't matter you are flagged even though your team mates don't care that you had to leave..

7th day you don't play.

So in 7 days depending on the amount you play even if casual, things come up and you can get flagged for things out of your control. The more games you play the more chances something is going to come up where you have to walk away for a minute.

So what is your suggestion? If you are married , Have a girlfriend, kids, neighbors or a job you shouldn't play this game?

I know for a teenager with no life and no worries, no job no girlfriend or kids they don't have to worry about afking unless their parents tell them to get off the computer.. but for the average person who likes to sit down and relax and play league a couple days through out the week shouldn't have to worry about getting banned or suspended because real life stuff comes up. It doesn't take that many afks to get A long Que time through out the week especially if you play 5-10 games a day. So take your "i'm high and almighty ego " and shove it because everyone who has ever played this game has had to afk or got flagged for afk that was beyond their control and they shouldn't get punished if they make it back in the game to help their team win or their team understands and isn't bother by you leaving.

This stupid system is designed to target ragers and people who afk who don't get their way.. it isn't meant to target people who generally have a reason they had to afk or can't get back in the game yet it still does, because Riot's logic is .. we'll our system punished 75,000 those people who didn't deserve it for afking but it got ride of 100,000 people who rage afked so fuck it it works... and it's less work on us. If the logic is that going afk screws your team and yet you can get back in game and help them win and they were ok with it why should you still get punished? You are arguing logic and logic always wins.

SmokedAlmondsSep 13, 20151 votes

I have no kids but I have my own responsibilities. But I don't let them interfere with other peoples games.

Yes, everyone leaves games occasionally. I have before, and I probably will again. Like I said shit happens. But if its happening enough to get punished for then you need to look at whats causing so many interruptions and fix it before queing again.

If there is any meaningful chance that I will have to leave in the next hour or so then I simply don't play. Like you I like to come home and play league to relax. And I don't want those games ruined with AFKs. I'm not gonna be selfish and roll the dice hoping that X doesn't happen.

My suggestion would be, yes If you are unable to reliably dedicate at least an hour of uninterrupted time then you should not play a game that is so reliant on you being present 100% of the time.

In your own description of a weeks play you played 18 games(using 3 for "few") of which you left 3. Thats 16.66%. If everyone left at that rate there would almost never be a game that was 5v5 from start to finish. Do you really think that's acceptable? Would you continue playing if every game was 4v5?

Also it doesn't stack up against you just because you play more games. The percentage of games that you left is what is important, not the number of games.

Leaverbuster does not only exist to target rage quiters. It is to reduce all leaving, regardless of the reason.

TehlawlfirmSep 13, 20151 votes

I stopped reading after you said you have your own responsibilities but don't let them bother your gaming lol.... Straight up fucking loser imo.. Anyone who would say that or even admit to putting gaming before responsibilities needs help. That shows me that you aren't here to make a valid point.. you are here to argue and only argue despite looking like an idiot doing it.

Like I said, you can't argue with logic because logic always wins and before I lose anymore brain cells trying to comprehend how someone can be so stupid as you to post what you just did, i'm going to go relax and watch a movie and hope that somewhere down the line you seek help for your addiction because it clearly trumps any common sense you may or may not have.

This conversation is over, I no longer need to comment because you just did my job for me so thanks.

SmokedAlmondsSep 13, 20151 votes

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I stopped reading after you said you have your own responsibilities but don't let them bother your gaming lol.... Straight up fucking loser imo.. Anyone who would say that or even admit to putting gaming before responsibilities needs help. That shows me that you aren't here to make a valid point.. you are here to argue and only argue despite looking like an idiot doing it.

Like I said, you can't argue with logic because logic always wins and before I lose anymore brain cells trying to comprehend how someone can be so stupid as you to post what you just did, i'm going to go relax and watch a movie and hope that somewhere down the line you seek help for your addiction because it clearly trumps any common sense you may or may not have.

This conversation is over, I no longer need to comment because you just did my job for me so thanks.