What mid laner do you recommend when facing a tank team?

Victurn Up·Mar 27, 2016·3 votes·4,295 views

You know these days we see a lot of Gragas, Shyvana, Malphite, Udyr, Peppy, Nautilus...

As a mainly mid player, I wonder what mid laner would be the best against all these HPs and CCs.

My main champ is Katarina, so most of time I still play her and have to wait my ennemies to burn their CCs for me to jump in, but some of them are smart asses and wait this moment haha. Well eventually I know Kata isn't the best champs for this situations. My other mid laners are Fizz, Ahri, Talon, Morgana, Viktor, Akali (risky but she can melt tanks).

What's your opinion, from your own experiences?

26 Comments

CatchdownMar 27, 20166 votes

The Troll KingMar 27, 20162 votes

Ahri Malzahar Morgana Ryze

You can thank me later.

CatchdownMar 27, 20164 votes

Bad.

The Troll KingMar 27, 20161 votes

Worse.

CatchdownMar 27, 20164 votes

Nice try, mister bronze. But he does percentage damage. I dont really care about opinions of your caliber.

The Troll KingMar 27, 20161 votes

No, I'm silver. And Plat EUW is Silver/Gold NA. Nice try though.

CatchdownMar 27, 20164 votes

Jokes on you, I actually come from NA and gained master 1 there, as you can see on my summoner icon. But nice try 8)

Inactivity in euw while I was gone is a bitc h ^^

The Troll KingMar 27, 20161 votes

Very well. Would you mind giving me reasons as to why those picks are bad?

CatchdownMar 27, 20163 votes

Morgana has flat out damage and does barely any damage to tanks. She excells at catching a squishy target off guard with her bind and CC him/her to death. You want to kill the adc for example if it's snared for some time. A tank doesnt give a crap.

Ahri Not good, but not bad either against tanks. She excells at bursting someone down with spells and get away with it, hence her high mobility. She has some true damage, but not enough to be really effective against tanks.

Malzahar Alright, this guy can actually do damage to tank, but he is so easy to get close to since he is only able to cc 1 target. He is decent against tanks, but the lack of mobility will get him killed quite easily since he needs to get close. However, I do say, that he is a decent pick.

Ryze How is this guy supposed to be good against tanks? He has firstly, one of the lowest winrates, and secondly, he does not do enough damage to bring tanks down. Just no. There are far better champions that are able to destroy tanks.

Now on to . Build rylais and liandries on this guy, and combine that with his passive and he is a tank shredding machine. He has a good amount of poke in the laning phase and also out laning phase with his W and can stay fairly safe with his slows on the rylais and stun on his Q (when target is ablazed) He can kite so well with these items and does so much damage on %health.

The Troll KingMar 27, 20163 votes

But this game isn't a 1v5. I know Brand is a good choice, but I don't think my picks were bad.

Morg provides utility, peeling for her team, provided she uses her ult in a good spot. And her E also. (and obviously her 3second snare).

Ahri has CC + mobility. Very safe pick.

You're right about Malz; he has no mobility, but Brand has no mobility either. (obviously brand has longer ranged spells though).

And I picked Ryze because he's tanky. You "counter" a tanky team by also being tanky. XD

CatchdownMar 27, 20161 votes

Ahri has barely any cc. Morgana does hardly any damage to tanks and is not a good pick against them. Sure, the other 3 can work, but there are far better champions that can do the job in a more effective way.

Big LincolnMar 27, 20161 votes

ryze has DPS and lockdown, good things to have vs tanks

J E B A ł T E DMar 27, 20162 votes

Mid laners typically aren't built to "shred" tanks. If any, I would say Leblanc and another person suggested Vladimir .

Your job actually isn't to shred tanks though. Kill the squishies first, using your range and/or mobility. Pick an AP champion you're great at and try to beat your lane so you can roam.

EndlessSorcererMar 27, 20162 votes

Malzahar can still kill almost anyone in a combo.

Ahri is pretty good at avoiding their CC and kiting them out.

Corki Varus can both double as ADC, letting them kill durable targets with their DPS.

Urgot can work rather well against tanky teams since he gets durable enough to shrug off their base damage and his E's synergy with Black Cleaver lets you significantly shred their armor.

can poke them down with his passive and Liandry's Torment. He will deal a lot of AoE damage damage during fights.

Lulu Orianna Lux Morgana provide great utility for teamfights and for protecting your carries, letting them live long enough to kill the tanks.

Viktor Cassiopeia Ryze Kayle Velkoz Vladimir Azir have good sustained damage, letting them eventually wear through the enemy tanks.

JayHog1992Mar 27, 20161 votes

Viktor is a well know tank buster. I still remember that I played him in aram first time and I could just SHRED half HP of 2 tanks that were harassing my team. His own CC and burst also comes in handy as well.

ZorasamaMar 27, 20161 votes

Maybe Vladimir or Swain

ElysMustacheMar 27, 20161 votes

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What's your opinion, from your own experiences?

KogMaw

His Q shreds resistances for your whole team to take advantage of, and his W does %maxHP damage. His R has strong execute damage. His E takes good advantage of Liandry's because it is an AoE slow. He also offers good wave clear.

With multiple tanks you will need Void Staff, which is generally a good idea on him anyway. I like Nashor's on him for everything it has, but you'll need an early mana item.

PhenyxsMar 27, 20161 votes

Tough to say. Mid lane is usually go ap vs ap. I like lb, twisted, vel, off the top of my head. I will also take llaoi mid and various and jhin.

Victurn UpMar 27, 20161 votes

Well there are also Talon, Zed, Yasuo, K-6.

PhenyxsMar 27, 20161 votes

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Well there are also Talon, Zed, Yasuo, K-6.

True. I don't play talon. Don't care for him but he is mid. Zed and yas. Don't know who k-6 is.???

Victurn UpMar 27, 20161 votes

Haha K-6 stands for Kha-Zix.

Big LincolnMar 27, 20161 votes

Viktor Cassiopeia Azir Velkoz

very good sustained damage, % damage, or a LOT of kiting power is important

Vel'Koz's innate damage lets you focus on magic pen to keep whittling them down, and you can kite a lot of tanks very easily with Q and rylai's.

Cass isn't good if your team won't or can't peel for you, but if you can comfortably work behind a front line then you get to open shop on the enemy team.

Azir and Viktor have ridiculous DPS and sustained burst, and Rylai's complements them both to make their kiting even better.

Brand has % damage out the butt. not much else to say. He's fodder if he gets caught though.

PhenyxsMar 27, 20161 votes

Heim is another. I play him against anyone. He can take it and wins lanes and kills.

BoomerangbroMar 27, 20161 votes

Urgot . Passive that reduces damage. Shield that provides CC. Damage that lowers enemy armor. Hard CC ult. High Damage. Tanky. Long range.

Troll for TrumpMar 27, 20161 votes

Cassiopeia Can do a lot w/ Liandry, but... because %hp Talon is fine if you get youmuus and BC, just jump onto a squishy, and your ult wand w will shred their armor enough that your team can get to them in team fights.