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Idea for Toxic Players in Ranked Game Lobby

Fisk··3 votes·1,143 views

I think that there should be a feature that allows people to vote someone out of the lobby. For example, if someone is being extremely toxic in lobby, currently you have two choices. A. you jump queue, lose LP and get a time penalty. Or option B. You play with this toxic a-hole the whole game and maybe lose because of it. Neither option is great. But if you could do this, you could kick this toxic player out of the lobby and start a new queue. Then the toxic player would get a time penalty and a toxicity warning, saying something like "you have been kicked because the rest of the players in your lobby deemed you toxic." Again this would ONLY be ranked feature (to prevent 4 man norms trolling you or other such things) and ALL four people would have to vote you as toxic. Tell me what you think of this as a solution to try to stop trolls and toxic players before you have to lose LP because of them or go through a game full of either miscommunication because of muting him or a game full of hate and trolls.

Edit- Umm apparently someone also has come to this conclusion also and he already has board attention. I didn't realize this! But I think it is still a great idea and riot should seriously consider this. Also! I think this feature should only be for ranked as I mentioned above

17 Comments

iamthegoatofwar1 votes

I say when you wish to vote a duo out their partner doesn't get a vote. I'm sick of duos in ranked most of the time.

LairyRover1 votes

I say when you wish to vote a duo out their partner doesn't get a vote. I'm sick of duos in ranked most of the time.

Duos mostly want to do bot or top/jungle or sup/adc or mid/feed though

iamthegoatofwar1 votes

i personally don't care I've found just about every duo i've come across -both my team and the enemies- to be toxic and/or extremely unreliable. Also when it comes to duos when you piss one off you piss the other off. Personally you wanna see ranked more fair? make it to where when there's a duo on one side there's a duo on the other.

Fisk1 votes

Frankly, even if a duo troll votes you, there's a very small chance of getting kicked... There's still two other players to out weigh their vote.

The Mormonator1 votes

I like this but at the same time I kinda don't because I like to mess with people in pregame lobbies. :(

Fisk1 votes

The point is to eliminate trolls... Not to be one... Try to be the kind of player people want to play with. Not the kind that everyone fears getting in their lobbies.

The Mormonator1 votes

I know I know, I do agree with your thought, but there is always the risk of someone getting kicked simply because they are playing something a little unorthodox, right? It risks becoming simply ranked teambuilder.

Fisk1 votes

Very few people, if any, are going to be kicked for a strange pick. Troll picks definitely will be.... But if ALL FOUR people on one team don't wanna play with a person, then I think by popular consensus that person will have a real reason to be kicked.

The Mormonator1 votes

Oh if it requires all four other people that may be okay, but the odds of someone being afk for champ select is there too

Worgslarg1 votes

This has been suggested time and time again. It will not work, simply because it is too abusable. Say you pick an unpopular champion, then you get vote-kicked.

Fisk1 votes

That's a very big worst case scenario. And most of the time, unless you are picking something TRULY awful you won't be kicked. And honestly if you are picking something that bad you probably aren't gonna do well. I can't think of a situation where you would be banned for picking something that isn't played much that's not troll. That's the point of four votes is unless they all agree that something isn't right, you will be fine.

NatsuDragneel6121 votes

But who decides what is truly awful? You? Me? Unless you know the player personally you can not know for sure if they will do bad with that champ, maybe they do really well with the champ, but because everyone else considers it crap they keep getting kicked from matches before they have a chance to prove themselves. Also the other problem is a toxic player could be playing with a friend in ranked and their friend won't vote to get them kicked so now you have just given that toxic player grounds to be even more toxic. Also it could be reversed and used against you, maybe a toxic player says "Unless we vote such and such out I'm just going to feed this whole match" so then you get kicked. Or maybe what you consider toxic no one else does and now you just come across looking like an Ahole or that you are the one being toxic so then you get voted out. It would also add to the wait time because if you kick a player the timer would first have to be stopped, then reset once a new player is found, now maybe the other team kicks someone, so now you have to wait again. In the end this just wouldn't work and is just ripe for abuse.

Fisk2 votes

The reason it isn't ripe for abuse is all four people must vote yes. That prevents a couple of players trolling another. Also the chances of what you are saying happening is very small. And I feel like the guy being toxic saying, "I'm gonna feed" will be kicked. That's the point. Also if all four players agree something is bad then, more than likely, it is bad. The player base actually can usually tell if a pick works or not. Things like ADC kayle or jungle heimerdinger just aren't good. Sorry... Players should be free to experiment with picks in NORMALS NOT RANKED. They removed free champs of the week being playable in ranked for the same reason. If their pick is actually good, let them show the other guys their match history. Let them prove it works. That is perfectly do-able. Also most people won't ban you for being toxic if you pick something unusual. Just if you pick something really trolly.

NatsuDragneel6121 votes

So as long as the toxic players play with a mate then that voting system would never work, also when I said that I meant if they had a friend with them they could do that. Also again that is just being unfair to players because again you have no idea how good that person might be and so now your the ones being toxic judging someone before they have a chance to prove themselves, I've constantly seen champs be used for positions they usually wouldn't be and they can own up, it all depends on the players skill. Also I never said it was experimenting did I? If you get a player who has dominated with a certain champ in a certain position that isn't the norm for that champ you won't know because you are judging them before they are being given a chance. Also the reason people don't get banned for picking something unusual is because this option you are talking about (kicking players before the game) isn't around for this reason, because people would abuse it. Also like I said it would just waste to much time. We can't judge someone on their pick because we haven't seen them play.

Fisk1 votes

First, I think you can find flaws with any good system. Second, most people don't wanna duo with a toxic player and there are still other channels in order to report a player aside from this. And mostly, people really aren't gonna kick you because you pick something weird. Especially if you can prove it can't work (which I mentioned above).

Fisk1 votes

And there is no way this is a waste of time. You lose maybe 2 minutes of your life (the chances of repeat bans in queue are so, so, so, so small). And you lose 2 minutes compared 20+ with a troll.

NatsuDragneel6121 votes

I'll meet you in the middle. This is mainly about stopping trolls and toxic players right? How about we adjust your idea a bit then. Have a system in place where people who get reported enough times have a black mark/ribbon on their name showing they are a toxic player, now the black ribbon/mark lasts longer than whatever ban or chat restriction they get, so if a player like that comes into your ranked game you can have the choice to vote them out then, it could even lessen the votes needed to kick the player from 4 to 3, because the have a known history of being toxic. A system like that would prevent any abuse of the voting system and would only target players who are toxic/trolls. A system like that could also help identify accounts that are just being used for trolling. Only after a certain period of time without any reports made against you and proving you have changed would you have the mark removed. But if after it's removed you still have a cooldown period where if you start being toxic again the mark goes straight back on your name and you have it on there for even longer. This could have two benefits in a system like this, for the people who want to prove they aren't toxic anymore will play better and do their best to not get reported resulting in better games from them, and for the people who are just trolls they will keep getting kicked from games and people won't have to put up with them.

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