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Urging all Fiora players, come make your voices heard!

The Whamboozler··12 votes·2,396 views

So I don't feel I'm alone here in hating the new Fiora update. Riot won't care however unless we actually MAKE them care. Here's how I plan to and I am urging every other Fiora player unhappy with her new art and VU to do the same. I don't like her new kit either, but I don't mind it as much as her utterly TERRIBLE VU and splash art. She didn't need new art of visuals! She looked good!

I will be writing riot a support ticket, asking them to refund me RP for my 3 Fiora skins. I no longer have any interest in playing her given what they've done to her and I certainly wouldn't have spent my money on those skins if they looked as bad as they're about to. I think riot only has a CHANCE of listening to us if we involve their wallets... so I'm urging all you Fiora players to do the same. The skins look awful anyway. Send them a ticket asking for a refund on them, and telling them that you hate the new VU and art for her. Maybe if enough people do this they MIGHT care.

I mean, I doubt it. They went through with the Cass rework despite the MASSIVE backlash against it, but it never hurts to try, right? Ask them to refund your skins if you care about Fiora and don't want this awful VU to take place. Let's see how much support we can get for this.

Edit: Since my point seems to be unclear to some, I'm saying her new VU and art are awful and THAT is why I'm demanding a refund. Not that her abilities are awful and I want her old ult back. Her old ult was pretty bad design and her old passive was meaningless. This is about how they changed her perfectly good art and visuals and made them much, much worse. I am upset about THAT. I'm fine with them changing her abilities to give her more counterplay.

31 Comments

Snowball4u4 votes

Most people don't like the fiora update, including myself, a person who seriously hates fiora.

They are reworking her to make her have counterplay, which is something she lacks right now.

The Whamboozler2 votes

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Most people don't like the fiora update, including myself, a person who seriously hates fiora.

They are reworking her to make her have counterplay, which is something she lacks right now.

That's fine. ALL they need to change in that case is her ult and maybe her underwhelming passive. Her visuals were FINE and didn't need to be changed... let alone butchered! I don't like the reworked abilites either, but that's not what this is about. It's about her terrible new VU and art. I'll keep the skins I payed for if they like they did when I bought them... But they're hideous now.

Snowball4u2 votes

I think the reworked abilities are great, well her passive and ult the others i don't really like. The VU is pretty bad, but they do that all the time and I will miss em all.

Like old splash arts for: Vayne, Kat, Twitch, Blitz, Wukong.

I know these aren't VU's and only splash art updates but I will still miss them as you will miss your old fiora.

Obviously there are ways around both. Getting the splash arts back is easier and i've already done it to a few of my champions, but you could possibly find a file of fiora and when it comes out make a "custom skin" that looks exactly like old fiora.

BetterNerfRelly1 votes

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I think the reworked abilities are great, well her passive and ult the others i don't really like. The VU is pretty bad, but they do that all the time and I will miss em all.

Like old splash arts for: Vayne, Kat, Twitch, Blitz, Wukong.

I know these aren't VU's and only splash art updates but I will still miss them as you will miss your old fiora.

Obviously there are ways around both. Getting the splash arts back is easier and i've already done it to a few of my champions, but you could possibly find a file of fiora and when it comes out make a "custom skin" that looks exactly like old fiora.

Shut up fucking shut up. You really do not understand how bad the PBE skins of fiora are compared to the old ones. They shit tier bad in the case of Royal Guard. They messed up BIG time the VU that should have been a way lighter change but no they want their shit NOT what the players want or in this case FUCKING ALREADY BOUGHT. This about changing a product and making worse.

Jubbinaut3 votes

Tell you what. If they do give you refunds on those skins, let me know. I'll be sure to go replace the purchases, because I genuinely like the direction they're going with these.

The Whamboozler2 votes

Well damn... I didn't expect to get NOTHING but hate when I posted this. I thought more people disliked the remodel. That pic comparing them side-by-side I've seen and it looks AWFUL to me.

But I guess if this is how people want Fiora to look and that's the majority... so be it. I mean, I still want to refund my skins, but I'm not gonna stand against popular opinion. I just thought more people disliked the thing and I wanted riot to notice and actually give a crap. If everyone LIKES it, then there's nothing I can do about that.

ModKnightsKemplar1 votes

Well, it looks like they're already fixing the models. Did you look at the new ones?

The Whamboozler1 votes

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Well, it looks like they're already fixing the models. Did you look at the new ones?

They're putting a little effort into it due to the backlash, I think. Royal guard still looks awful. I'll NEVER like her new "oversized shoulderpad and cape" thing. Her old split-cape was very distinctive and cool and I think, much better. They've fixed her horse-face a bit, which is good, but I still loathe her white dress and striped boots in her classic skin. Royal Guard STILL looks awful. Her splash art is still far inferior to her old one. In her new splash she has a face like she's trying to hold in a fart and the poise of someone about to fall down the stairs thanks to that cocked leg and the goofy dutch angle of the shot. And most importantly... ROYAL GUARD STILL LOOKS AWFUL. Fiora looks better than when they started working on her, but I still don't LIKE the new visuals. A gold-plated turd is still a turd.

Masalar1 votes

Played her, liked her, have few complaints.

DWT123451 votes

aw nuts! They are making a previously overpowered champion with little counterplay more challenging with more mechanics! It's stupid that I cant 1v4 a team and become untargettable while doing so! I can't believe that Riot isn't bending to our every desire! It's like they think it's their own game or something!

While I agree that the new VU is pretty bad, her model was getting pretty oudated, but I think they just needed to give her a model update, not a vu.

Eleshakai2 votes

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aw nuts! They are making a previously overpowered champion with little counterplay more challenging with more mechanics! It's stupid that I cant 1v4 a team and become unforgettable while doing so! I can't believe that Riot isn't bending to our every desire! It's like they think it's their own game or something!

Read the post. The guy's not complaining about the ABILITY update, he's complaining about the VISUAL update.

Get off your high horse.

I don't agree, personally, I think the new version fits League of Legends better... but it's such a subjective thing that I can't call him wrong and if he wants to try to get it reverted, that's his prerogative. But there are some out there who think the new artwork fits better within the context of the game.

The Whamboozler2 votes

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aw nuts! They are making a previously overpowered champion with little counterplay more challenging with more mechanics! It's stupid that I cant 1v4 a team and become untargettable while doing so! I can't believe that Riot isn't bending to our every desire! It's like they think it's their own game or something!

While I agree that the new VU is pretty bad, her model was getting pretty oudated, but I think they just needed to give her a model update, not a vu.

I'm complaining about her new LOOK dude. Not her skills. In fact, I agree her ult is badly designed and needs to change... and her passive is just bad. It's her new VU and art that I think it awful and that's what I'm trying to get support for changing back. Her old visuals were fine. They didn't need an update. TARIC needs an update. MORDE needs an update. NUNU needs an update. Fiora didn not.

The Whamboozler1 votes

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aw nuts! They are making a previously overpowered champion with little counterplay more challenging with more mechanics! It's stupid that I cant 1v4 a team and become untargettable while doing so! I can't believe that Riot isn't bending to our every desire! It's like they think it's their own game or something!

While I agree that the new VU is pretty bad, her model was getting pretty oudated, but I think they just needed to give her a model update, not a vu.

It's not about her abilties. It's about her awful new in-game visuals and splash art.

ModKnightsKemplar1 votes

The only avid Fiora player I know loves the gameplay update. I wouldn't go around trumpeting that EVERYONE hates it. Some people love it.

The Whamboozler2 votes

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The only avid Fiora player I know loves the gameplay update. I wouldn't go around trumpeting that EVERYONE hates it. Some people love it.

I didn't say everyone hates it. The boards are full of rage about it, which is why I posted this. I'm asking for the people who DO hate it to let riot know by demanding refunds for their Fiora skins in the hopes that they will take notice. If people don't care enough to do it then either the Fiora playerbase is so small that no one cares about her at all, or that more people like the new VU and art than dislike it... and then it should stay the way it is, even if I dislike it. Popular demand.

Why do people keep interpreting this as something to argue with me over? If you like her new art and VU... fine. That isn't what this thread was about. This thread is an attempt to rally the people who DO dislike it, and I know there are plenty of those, and try and make Riot notice our disapproval. If it fails, it fails. No one is gonna talk me down from disliking the new VU and art tho... Stop trying.

And AGAIN. It's not about her new abilities! I don't care about that. It's about her new visuals and her new art. It's HORRID. I'm not mad cause I can't press R to be invincible. I'm mad because Fiora looks awful to me now. Hell, Royal Guard was my favorite skin! Look what they did to it!

ModKnightsKemplar3 votes

And as I've said multiple times on several threads, those models aren't final. They are on the PBE. Riot has a LONG HISTORY of updating models on the PBE. I have seen the models. They are not very high quality right now. They weren't intended to be.

All the criticism of unfinished changes is going to go ignored by Riot, and rightfully so. They aren't finished.

I can at least understand the complaining about Fiora's splash. But the models? They get updated all the time during a cycle. Just give it a minute, geez.

And, just as you want to rally people who hate the rework, those of us that don't have a voice too. We are going to use it to show Riot that we like the changes, just as you use yours the other way. It's not a hate message against you, it's an attempt to show Riot an accurate view of their players.

deceptopus2 votes

They also have a long history of ramming through highly contentious changes that lots of people don't like as well. They wouldn't be parading the changes around if they didn't think it was "good enough". You shouldn't be sucking riot's duck just because they've taken one step back from absolutely awful, you should be demanding better.

ModKnightsKemplar2 votes

I'll demand better if I see a PRODUCT that doesn't live up to expectations. It isn't real until it's live.

The Whamboozler1 votes

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I'll demand better if I see a PRODUCT that doesn't live up to expectations. It isn't real until it's live.

And I'm saying if it goes live looking like crap... I'm going to demand my refunds. All I was asking was if anyone else felt the same. I own three Fiora skins. I paid for them. THAT is a product. If you buy a new shirt and after owning it for a week the shirt's designer comes to your house and says "I prefer it in hot pink with teal stripes and one sleeve missing" you don't get to say their opinion is wrong. But that designer doesn't get to change what you paid for either!

They're changing what I paid for. If I dislike the final change, I'm asking for my money back. It is NOT what I bought. But it seems people on here would rather argue and flame me for my opinion on it.

DeNig1 votes

I really don't think so. First thing the new update really seems nice and I think it's even kind of overpowered, especially the passive and the ultimate, I mean look at that passive's damage I think it's really good, and I think it's a great improvement to her kit and makes her more team oriented champion instead of the champ that plays alone. Secondly, have you ever seen the changes to her appearance?? I mean, the changes Riot did for Kassadin is more than they did to Fiora (I speak only about the VU) and it doesn't affect her appearance at all man. And lastly, I see no point in refunding your purchases by Riot, and I guess you won't make it, but anyways good luck with that.

The Whamboozler1 votes

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I really don't think so. First thing the new update really seems nice and I think it's even kind of overpowered, especially the passive and the ultimate, I mean look at that passive's damage I think it's really good, and I think it's a great improvement to her kit and makes her more team oriented champion instead of the champ that plays alone. Secondly, have you ever seen the changes to her appearance?? I mean, the changes Riot did for Kassadin is more than they did to Fiora (I speak only about the VU) and it doesn't affect her appearance at all man. And lastly, I see no point in refunding your purchases by Riot, and I guess you won't make it, but anyways good luck with that.

It is not about her abilities! It's about her new champion model and splash art!

Dozens of Fiora's art sucks threads and mine seems to get nothing but people who want to argue with me "but she'll be OP tho" as if that was what I was talking about.

DeNig1 votes

If you talk about VU then I mentioned that in my replay. I believe her new appearance is not bad at all, to me I like it and I think Riot did a good job on her and made here more alive than metallic. And we can argue about that a lot, but take a look at this... I really think it's nice update for her.

The Whamboozler1 votes

If you think the pic on the right is better than the pic on the left there, you and I will have to agree to disagree. The Fiora on the right looks HIDEOUS to me. The ONLY thing the new fiora has is a nifty sword. Her outfit has less detail. Her face is horse-shaped and hideous. She lost her cool and distinctive three-part cape. Her hair looks stiff and rigid like a helmet. Her outfit is bland and rather ugly. That is NOT Fiora.

Laurgon1 votes

I'm honestly not sure you're going to be able to get a refund for art alone. I wish you luck, and it might be interesting to see what happened if a whole bunch of people got together on this one, but I don't think Riot is going to go with this one.

I think there's a lot of general dissatisfaction with the current state of the VU, but I also think a lot of people are hoping to get things changed for the better, instead of throwing in the towel already and assuming her design will stay as it is.

The Whamboozler1 votes

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I'm honestly not sure you're going to be able to get a refund for art alone. I wish you luck, and it might be interesting to see what happened if a whole bunch of people got together on this one, but I don't think Riot is going to go with this one.

I think there's a lot of general dissatisfaction with the current state of the VU, but I also think a lot of people are hoping to get things changed for the better, instead of throwing in the towel already and assuming her design will stay as it is.

Not the art alone... I think her new in-game model is much, MUCH worse than her old one is. The idea was if it goes through and still looks awful to all band together and demand a refund.... putting the post up early and asking if anyone else supported the idea was to show Riot that we meant and care about the quality of what they're going to throw at us. I paid for those skins. If they change them into something I wouldn't have paid for... I want my money back.

But since it seems no one else feels the same I guess it's all pointless. I honestly expected at least a little bit of support from the community, but I haven't seen any, so I'll just assume my opinion isn't one that anyone else shares.

Laurgon1 votes

Sorry, by "art" I meant in-game model too. My mistake, I should have been clearer.

I understand where you're coming from, but again, I think we have a much better chance of getting them to change the new model than to give refunds for the champion or skins. Still, it couldn't hurt to try, if you're that unhappy.

The Whamboozler1 votes

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Sorry, by "art" I meant in-game model too. My mistake, I should have been clearer.

I understand where you're coming from, but again, I think we have a much better chance of getting them to change the new model than to give refunds for the champion or skins. Still, it couldn't hurt to try, if you're that unhappy.

Why not? I paid for the new skins entirely for the art. If they're changing what I paid for, it only seems fair.

Though again... it's all a moot point if they bring the in-game model up to a better quality one.

Laurgon1 votes

I'm not saying I don't think you shouldn't get a refund if you want, but I'm saying I don't think they will. I feel like they've been kind of stingy with their refund policies in the past, so I'm just trying to push as hard as I can on the lane I think has the best chance of getting to the nexus, as it were.

SEIYAVANHELLSING1 votes

ya riot be a fuktard, that new splash art is terrible is "cruela de vil " disney should be demand to riot ... and their ulty define fiora, that new ulty is obscene ...

The Whamboozler1 votes

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ya riot be a fuktard, that new splash art is terrible is "cruela de vil " disney should be demand to riot ... and their ulty define fiora, that new ulty is obscene ...

This thread and my desire for a refund has nothing to do with her new abilities. It's about how terrible her new model and art is. On my favorite skin especially. I loved Royal Guard and now it looks hideous.

Xonra1 votes

I like it thematically and game play wise. I don't get the point of the visual rework of her ingame or splash art...literally at all. Her splash needed a bit of touching up, but the theme was good. Her in game model was actually perfectly fine.

I don't like her in game model or splash now (and obviously I'm not alone in this). I just don't get the point of the visual change, aside from they seem to feel they have to for some reason with any change to a champion now, just because.

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