ADCs are not the meta. Stop playing them everywhere

Borkahn·Apr 4, 2016·2 votes·538 views

Really stop it. You have a graves top, varus mid, and sivir bot and you expect me to babysit every single one of your lanes while they have a jungler who smartly picked rammus? Oh and you don't ward and push them under turret and then bm me cause you got ganked and died under their turret? Oh no no no no no. You are dumb. I expect this shit in bronze not gold. Learn to ward. And here's a thought, pick an actual META CHAMP! Not go adc mid or top because you didn't get bot like you wanted. No fuck you.

Just so people know, I was first pick jungle and none of them were showing what they wanted to play. So no way I could have known.

4 Comments

VapidActionsApr 4, 20162 votes

Graves top is meta - Due to his very short range he actually has trouble in bot, getting harassed easily. However in top where there's usually melee champions, he can hit all his pellets giving large lane dominance. True grit also makes him a lot more tanky than your standard marksman. He doesn't play anything like the old graves, and is now far more a bruiser than a marksman

Varus mid is meta - Varus has always been a caster marksman (similar to Ezreal, who is also fine mid). Mid is actually great for Varus due to the shorter lane helping with his low mobility. You're basically getting and AD poke from mid instead of an AP poke from mid (something like Corki, another marksman that works great mid)

Sivir bot - uhhh, not sure why you pointed this one out, but yea, works here. So far your team is far too AD heavy, but if any ADC is going into this comp sivir is actually the best possible pick. Her ult will help Varus with his low mobility, and help Graves stick onto people with his low range.

Picking up Rammus was certainly something you wanted to do with this comp, at least it denied that from the enemy. Each of these picks you pointed out is perfectly acceptable individually, it's just as a comp it's a bit overwhelming with AD damage. Which wouldn't have been any different was it a Riven top, and Zed mid.

As for babysitting them, Only Varus really needs any babysitting. Graves can handle himself as well as any top laner. If he gets too aggressive and dies, wouldn't have been any different with any other champion. And if you had some other low mobility mid that fit into your "acceptable not marksman midlaners" such as Cass, or Kass, they would need just as much babysitting.

BorkahnApr 4, 20161 votes

Way to not read the full thing. I was first jungle pick and they didn't show what champ they were going to play. If I'm first pick and all I see are no champs selected save for support, how on Earth would I know to first pick rammus? 3 adcs in this comp especially as 3,4,5 on picks is stupid. It's not meta. It's a great way to lose the game. Pay attention to what I said.

VapidActionsApr 5, 20161 votes

I read the full thing, in fact, the rammus statement is in the second sentence. Which I'll admit I mis-sread, I thought you were saying you did a smart thing and picked rammus, instead of the enemy. Either way not a thing changes. With the way you're re-iterating your statements, I continue to stand by my previous point, but add that "Solo/Dynamic queue" players rarely pay any attention to other people's picks. Which yes, certainly can be an issue. None of them individually made a bad pick, but failing to adjust their picks based on the rest of the team was certainly an issue. Though those picks being marksman in particular I don't feel has anything to do with... anything. Your team stacked AD, it happens, and it got punished.

If you had Riven top, Zed mid, and a panth/J4 kill lane bot, you would have 0% of the marksmen, and the 100% of the same problems. I think you're completely misunderstanding the issue, and throwing the blame in the wrong direction.

Not to mention the part about "babysitting". Sounds like they didn't do so hot in lane, which again, being marksmen specifically didn't change anything. Would it have been better if you lost with a proper hybrid damage team? Because that happens too! Lanes get lost, games get lost. If you want to rant about people not adjusting their picks in champ select... sure... That's been a problem since... the very first queue.

I'm sure you've made picks before without thinking/caring if they're actually great for the team. Because you really want to play a certain champion, or you really feel comfortable on a certain champion, or you want a champion that does better in lane against what you saw picked, you think about those things instead of your teams comp.

Which honestly in all but the highest brackets has merit. The way league snowballs these days, if you win lane hard, you're a long way towards outright winning the game as long as there isn't an equal counterpart on the enemy team. Your team "comp" matters less and less as games get more and more snow-bally. Welcome to the new League of Legends, where strategy and teamwork is secondary to flashy moves and cool names for casters to say!