ELO hell exists and is not Bonze.

Getattorex·4/21/2016, 7:17:26 PM·2 votes·981 views

I think i just found ELO hell.

First of all i want to point out that i'm not a blamer, this post is not about a guy complaining because he's stuck on X ELO because of teammates. I play ranked to get better.

Back to the post:

I think there is some sort of bug or problem with matchmaking, at this point i can almost confirm it.

When a player drops mmr, he's matched with lower mmr player (lets call them "worst players").

In a game, 5 v 5, this palyer is matched with worst players and he plays against players between his division and his MMR, which means he's matched against players who are slightly (or not so slightly) better than the player's team. In theory, the player we're talking about, should compensate that, because in theory, he's better. Because he has higher ranking.

I find 2 main problems:

1_ Legue of legends has evolved to a game where is harder every patch to solo carry the game. Even if one whole team is ahead in gold, if the enemy team is smarter, understands better the game, and knows how to move, etc. They'll most likely win anyways. (Someone will get caught, enemy team will know how to defend, "worst" team wont know how to close game out).

So, having one better player against an average of better players, makes a huge advantage for the better average team.(english please)

2_ This player, who is higher in division, has dropped for a reason. He's not as good as he used to be anymore. So he should be treated as his mmr marks. And at this point, i'm sure it doesnt.

Some time ago, i thought it was only mmr that was relevant in the matchmaking of ranked games. But after being in this situation i can assure that division is also taking into acount and its just wrong.

Edit: Playing in this situation (low mmr) has brought me (somehow) afks in games and child-ish mentality in teammates aswell. I cant help but think that its not a coincidence. (english pls)

17 Comments

worm4/21/2016, 7:21:37 PM5 votes

If there's any "ELO hell" it's rank V of any league that you're not significantly better than.

ComeOnAndSlamJam4/21/2016, 8:02:48 PM2 votes

Silver is ELO hell. It's where like 80% of the player base is, so the skill variety is really large, and it's also full of tryhards who think they deserve gold, so they tilt/rage very easily.

I started out Bronze 5 and climbed out, almost undefeated (except for a 3 game stretch in Bronze 3 where I had at least two leavers each game and just lost on numbers).

Some games in silver are like games with really pissed off bronzies. Some games in silver you get stuck playing against some bored diamond's smurf account.

gatchi4/22/2016, 5:54:38 PM2 votes

You forget that this is happening on the enemy team as well. You cant idealize the enemy team while talking about this theoretical player.

Also:

In a game, 5 v 5, this palyer is matched with worst players and he plays against players between his division and his MMR, which means he's matched against players who are slightly (or not so slightly) better than the player's team.

I dont really understand what you mean by this, and i would like to know your source as well. The League/MMR system isnt straightforward, and im unsure youre describing it correctly in the first place.

S6 Is Trash4/21/2016, 7:20:41 PM1 votes

You cant say there is elo boosting if you acknowledge elo hell exists. So why can someone like me play on an account any elo and get it to high diamond consistently? Because there is no such thing as elo hell but there is a thing called peaking in skill/no trying to get better so you dont improve.

I Main Samus4/21/2016, 8:16:43 PM1 votes

I've had times like that where I was in a slump in ranked and almost got down back into bronze 1, but the enemy teams I was put against where of gold+ rankings? I was completely out of balance on the teams MMR but somehow we were matched against each-other and my team the one with bronze to low silver players stand no chance.

Smalltomahawker4/21/2016, 8:31:20 PM1 votes

Honestly man I am unsure if I lost my mind or if this game has just changed that much and made it harder to solo carry. I am not great, but my main is gold 5 (tier ahead of this account). Yet... I cannot seem to get out of bronze 1. I have been trying different things and it just seems like no matter what most games my team really just wants to lose. I would never play XinZhao on my main just because I don't think he is as op as people say he is and around gold it seems like most games (at least that I have been in) the team with XinZhao losses. But I have been playing him on this account just because I feel I need to play someone that can carry super hard because just trying to play to provide tank/peel and assists for your team doesn't seem to work. I forgot how bad bronze adcs can be until recently but holy crap..... I literally lost a Maokai jungle game where I went 17-9-24. But at one point I was like 14-2-16. Literally the worst adc ever... we would even ace their team at 40-45 mins and could not push down one last inhib turret to win.

In past seasons even before I could get past silver 2 I made a second account and had it in bronze for awhile. But when I wanted to carry myself out I could at any time generally playing adc fairly quickly. I realized I am not a great adc so I stopped maining it. But I started playing adc again and I can do laning fine... but it seems like unless I get 10 kills in 10 mins or better we have no chance of winning. No one is going to peel for me and blowing up an adc is fairly easy so even if I am fed I just get swarmed and die.

I originally put this account in bronze to be a dick and have fun putting up large killing scores so I realize this is completely deserved. I guess its more humorous than anything but I honestly feel bad for players who can actually play at a higher elo (and don't just think they can) but are stuck because of how hard it is to carry currently.

item 3124 such a joke of an item.

Live2LetDie4/21/2016, 7:24:13 PM1 votes

Elo hell doesn't exist. Why is it high elo players get out so easily? I can't even get a smurf into bronze without turning off my monitor.