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The amount of players literally teetering on the edge of sanity

fractalfantasies··36 votes·2,074 views

So I was having a good winning run of ranked games and I decided to play this morning.

I was am last pick in the lobby, I don't mind I have champs for each role. Our first pick says he will go kalista mid because he is really good with her I am able to get my adc role and lock in Vayne bot.

As soon as the game starts our top laner and support (morgana) start to flame the guy going mid, saying it's a lost game, gg, report etc. A few minutes in I am about parity with ashe in terms of farm and my supp tells me if I don't last hit better he will go afk. We get about 4 kills in bot, all for the supp and he flames me for not taking those kills, even though our lane is 4-0 in our favour and we have got a drake so really the game is looking good for us. He suddenly goes mental, recalls and declares he is afk because I can't farm (I am 3 CS ahead of the enemy ashe, even though I am Vayne and like I said our bot lane has 4 kills collectively...).

I try to 2 vs 1 the lane and I do die, eventually the supp comes back, but by this time ashe is fed. Our kalista mid who despite feeding the game badly, is a nice guy, bit of a joker and never flames, every single time he dies morg launches the most insane, diabolical extended rant on the poor guy, whilst spamming surrender votes every few minutes after 20. Claiming he is an idiot for going kali mid, blah blah blah

I just don't understand, the game itself was perfectly winnable, how can people have such extreme emotional reactions to the most minor set backs? In society how do these people function. The sad thing is, he was actually a decent support, but he just could not understand how his flaming and going afk for a few minutes, was more detrimental to the team that our fairly nice mid laner who fed, but still made the effort.

31 Comments

Biff Manly20 votes

"Trying to have a good time" and "playing ranked solo queue" hardly ever line up. Like, zero times. If you manage to have fun with other ranked players, send me their summoner names right now so I can creepily stalk them until they become my friends.

Ultimate Snipe2 votes

I actually had the nicest team in ranked a few days ago. Everytime we messed up no one would rage, just give advice to the other on what they could do better next time. Let me get a link really quick.

Bodkins Odds1 votes

I just had a ranked game like that, it was my first game of the day and it gave me my first win bonus: http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1841357583/218306388?tab=overview

I missed a lot of CS in between getting my BF Sword and getting my IE though, it was really annoying.

DrCyanide5 votes

For ranked, I always type the following before we load into game:

DrCyanide: gl, hf DrCyanide: most importantly, hf

I feel like it helps pull some people back from the brink a little, and sets the tone for the match.

When someone is acting like Morg, it can be helpful to point out that the team can still do it and point out all the things that are going right. It's hard to do in the middle of the game though. Still, even things like typing ":(" when they say they're going to AFK can effect them. I've had several teammates decide not to AFK after getting a ":( but we need you!".

AsheGetsGanked1 votes

lol that doesn't help at all. esp if team-comp gets fucked up.

and no, ur just sucking up to teammates to make them not go afk. if they wanna go afk let them, not here to be somebody's fucking cheerleader for a moba.

Biffolo2 votes

{quoted}

lol that doesn't help at all. esp if team-comp gets fucked up.

and no, ur just sucking up to teammates to make them not go afk. if they wanna go afk let them, not here to be somebody's fucking cheerleader for a moba.

See, I care more about winning than that. Im here to win my soloq at ANY cost. If it takes my dignity and pride then so be it. There isnt anything I would not do in order to be the best player, and progress through the ranks.

Pheonixwish4 votes

Well, it looks like those guys were a bit on tilt, maybe after losing a couple games because their team comp wasn't good enough. The smallest bad omen (like say, a first blood) can easily make them lose hope, knowing that the game might go as bad as the previous ones. Not exactly defending their actions (because Kalista mid is awesome) but you have to understand their mindset and judge how to bring them back into the game. They're not insane, they're just going through a rough day and it's our job to make it better.

FuryofThornsRedo2 votes

Alright, but when a bad day is every game every day, then what? I ask because there appears to be the ability for friends to be on enemy teams of their friends, so how would we know when the actions from day to day are every day throwing the games in the favor of maybe classifying the ranks higher for a friend with a more winning ratio level of statistic?

From: FuryofThornsRedo

Pheonixwish3 votes

I've never heard of this and even then the chances seem super low. I mean, why risk your own winnings for sportsmanship, practice, and fun? It's definitely an interesting theory, but I doubt this accounts for the "insanity" OP is talking about.

FuryofThornsRedo2 votes

I actually witnessed this theory in college. Though in the 90's there was more of an interest with Age of Empire. Funny in my level of online game skills there. Anyway, I witnessed first hand how these two roommates plotted to take down the one team with a skilled fan of Age of Empire. They decided to agree to be on separate teams, even when they knew the strength of their ability to win all the games, when the skilled fanatic was not around; also the skilled fanatic was a professor.

I was allowed to be in the losing team. Of course I was asked to fill in since almost the entire class was dreaming to hear for one day in class how the professor had finally lost a game, as a means to demolish the bragging winds more than stale to the majority of the class. I was on the losing team, an integral component considering my sloth ability in creating cities. However, the level of sloth is directly correlated to my first time learning of my toggling in online video games level of learning agility. Truth is truth, no painful takes when illustrating my ability to maneuver around the keyboard in the Age of Empires game.

My team lost, and the celebrations in the room with the two conspirators owned the party scene in the 21 and over dorm. Fun time. Could happen beyond a theory. As Sammystorm states below, Riot tends to these sorts of theories or action behaviors to make sure not far out of control. This is only informative. No specified tone, or volume to a pitch intended to sound insulting or rude. A normal sound of even keel telling of a story. Not to prove wrong, but to display a theory as evidence where maybe this theory story could be a reference tool, though hopefully never in the future of Riot League of Legends online video game realm. Thank you for presenting the opportunity for me to visit this memory. Wild fun overtaking of the dorm in the winning loss roommates celebration, but a Victory for the two conspirators to bring Justice into the ownership of the entire classroom of their peers. From: FuryofThornsRedo

Pheonixwish2 votes

You are very welcome, and thanks for sharing c:

Only being a (REMOVED) year old, I've never heard of Age of Empires, and the guides I saw online were from...2008 and older. gasp

Anyways, since I normally play among lower elos, it's hard for me to comprehend this theory, since I rarely get the same two players in a row. Even then, it's unlikely that they are real life friends. But who knows, maybe there really are two players who work insanely hard to calculate the matchmaker, and try their luck for the promised win.

Anyways, I still hold true to my post. It's much more likely for those toxic players to be on tilt rather than have an (I'll admit) amazing experience such as yours. However, wouldn't it have been so much more worthwhile to learn the game enough to beat your professor 1 on 1? A fantastical notion I know, but I value sportsmanship above all else in this game, and would never commit to such acts. Again, thanks for the wonderful story.

FuryofThornsRedo1 votes

I was unaware of the bringing down of the professor until the game was completed and over. Then the attack of my conscience began. No I am not the sort of person to perform outside of fair game play.

With all of the snow outside then in college I was able to lure the roommates outside and deliver my message for not being told up front of their intentions of actually including me for the first time in one of their computer games. Snowbanks were 3 feet tall, and they were up to their waists in climbing out from where they were football tackled. The question asked was if a perfect snowball could be made with this snow? Lesson to the both of them was delivered, but the attack of my conscience was bruised and scared from being able to full freely trust the two of them again.

From: FuryofThornsRedo

Sammystorm2 votes

we have had a problem with people getting on teams and throwing games for friends but it usually doesn't last long before riot fixes it and hasn't happened very often.

FuryofThornsRedo1 votes

Thank you for your reply. Allowing me to share in the exchange of information about this subject discussion, even with my theory has allowed me to be included in the feedback exchange of information. From: FuryofThornsRedo

steampig4 votes

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TurquoiseYoshi2 votes

Year-round school. Hold it for 10 weeks, then have 3 weeks off. PLZ SCHOOL SYSTEMS.

delonix1 votes

School should be held year round...

Oh wow, someone arguing for a way to improve our education system so that we can better prepare the future generations for the difficulties they will face and generally improve humankind?

so all the little asshats don't ruin the rest of our lives.

nope.

Dovescape3 votes

I will reply to the original post with an experience of my own. I have been playing for more than 3 years, but this one stuck to my mind for the exact same reason fractalfantasies mentions: how can people like this function in a normal society?

We were sieging the enemy nexus turrets and were very close to securing the win, when a stray enemy champ jumped out to defend. Ryze and myself responded, I took the kill and went back to hitting the turret. At this point, Ryze stopped dead still and proceeded to type how I stole his kill and how I did not deserve it. I responded (calmly) that it did not matter at this point and that we can end the game in 30 seconds if he just uses his right click a bit.

He refused, went into their fountain and I was not able to finish on my own (hue, hue) as I was a lowly Leona support. Ryze then proceeded to die on cooldown, running into the enemy team, which put them back in the game. We lost as a result.

As an analogy: imagine you're playing in an important soccer match, dribbling past all defenders and scoring the goal yourself instead of passing it to your teammate who was next to you. The latter then throws a fit and starts taking the ball and scoring own goals. Instead of your team ending up with a win, without having you on the scorer list, you prefer to lose in order to punish them.

When I say "how can they function in society" I mean that people like this are a liability for every group they become a part of, be it at work or for a hobby. How can someone prefer to punish a peer and have themselves suffer as well. The hate for another becomes greater than the "love" for oneself. I would never see myself doing something detrimental to my progress "just" to teach someone a lesson.

fractalfantasies1 votes

{quoted}

I will reply to the original post with an experience of my own. I have been playing for more than 3 years, but this one stuck to my mind for the exact same reason fractalfantasies mentions: how can people like this function in a normal society?

We were sieging the enemy nexus turrets and were very close to securing the win, when a stray enemy champ jumped out to defend. Ryze and myself responded, I took the kill and went back to hitting the turret. At this point, Ryze stopped dead still and proceeded to type how I stole his kill and how I did not deserve it. I responded (calmly) that it did not matter at this point and that we can end the game in 30 seconds if he just uses his right click a bit.

He refused, went into their fountain and I was not able to finish on my own (hue, hue) as I was a lowly Leona support. Ryze then proceeded to die on cooldown, running into the enemy team, which put them back in the game. We lost as a result.

As an analogy: imagine you're playing in an important soccer match, dribbling past all defenders and scoring the goal yourself instead of passing it to your teammate who was next to you. The latter then throws a fit and starts taking the ball and scoring own goals. Instead of your team ending up with a win, without having you on the scorer list, you prefer to lose in order to punish them.

When I say "how can they function in society" I mean that people like this are a liability for every group they become a part of, be it at work or for a hobby. How can someone prefer to punish a peer and have themselves suffer as well. The hate for another becomes greater than the "love" for oneself. I would never see myself doing something detrimental to my progress "just" to teach someone a lesson.

This is the exact sort of thing.

It's not just being a bit of a nuisance, it's this mentality of complete self-sabotage even when you are actually in a positive position overall.

FuryofThornsRedo1 votes

I agree with you reasoning, intellect as specified in this reply post, and with you conclusion as to how people can function in society. I understand this post is in specific discussions about game skills, timing, strategies, and tactics.

I will reference notate how I became close to offer a counter; however, the subject discussion then turns into the surrender discussion. I would need to create the post I have been tabling for about a week. Was thinking maybe to leave one of the paradigms of thought processes I have observed alone, considering the lack of feedback received. This subject discussion post I am replying to is notating a reference I can make to a sport I excel inside of those game boundary lines of that athletic small group communication process in the display of sportsmanlike conduct. Not to drive my own post, but to make sure I am not on a tangent diverting attention from this subject discussion.

Thank you! From: FuryofThornsRedo

omegalopolis1 votes

this kind of thing happens to me and my friends allot. we rarely pick a typical metta team (hiemer zerath bot zill shako duo mid all yordle team. kinda different but fun experimental things) usually a 5 man group but when its just 2 or 3 of us and we pull out one of our wacky combos its insta troll even though they had time to leave the match from the beginning. we usually do a decent job too and win most of our games but like all other teams when there's a week link due to flaming/trolling or all out giving up we lose. so what i think the problem is, lies in the player itself and what people think work the best. people are stuck in there ways and jaded beyond the point where there mind is closed to all other possible ways of playing the game. it comes down to if you play for fun or to win.

ps. there is allot of intresting (hidden) champ combos out there. just try shako zill duo top or mid. just for the luls stealth bomber ftw

Gavran1 votes

Was way more fun with old Twitch and as a bonus was a functional lane

Tomatosx1 votes

I've already went coocoo for cocoa puffs. Ive already developed 2 personalities. One Amumu and other one DrMundo

Spacesuit Spiff1 votes

Oh, I feel you. It's especially bad in division 5 of anything because "durr I'm 0 lp can't get demoted don't need to control my emotional issues". Ive seen:

-Support raging and threatening to afk over wolves. Then actually going afk when he doesn't get all future wolves. -Top going batshit insane over wolves and crying over it for the rest of the game while intent feeding, then I had to dodge the next game because he was still fuming at the mouth in the next champ select. -Support raging any time the jungle successfully ganked another lane "noob focus 40% of the team, not 20% the Riven". Yes, I'm going to start bot side and pass up an easy chance to get a RIVEN rolling so I can walk all the way across the map just to gank for a Soraka... -ADC doing the same, except more like a whiny aunt "that was a good gank but you really shouldn't help these unskilled players, come bot oh dearie me I died while typing that ah well it was worth now you know to only come bot". Eventually started intent feeding.

I'll just stop there...

TheRainInSpain1 votes

I stopped trying to explain how ADC mid works to my teammates. Even if I get fed, having them recognize that I went AD instead of AP (Kennen) gets me flamed to hell and back. Regardless, it's always fun to confuzzle the enemy mid every so often. Last game resulted in Zed getting completely zoned by what he thought was going to be some lousy energy mage. He was useless for the rest of the game.

theragingnerd1 votes

i only rage when people do that shit in promos lb support I'M SURE THAT WON'T GO WRONG 3 and 7

darkmatchwaldo1 votes

I'm sorry but kalista mid in ranked.........? You lose half her kit doing that...

Angry Monster3 votes

the op was not the kalista you need to learn to move past some things.

fractalfantasies2 votes

{quoted}

I'm sorry but kalista mid in ranked.........? You lose half her kit doing that...

It wasn't me playing Kalista mid, I went Vayne adc.

This misses the point, he was first pick; there are no rules enforcing the meta it's up to us to make the best of it, even if people do things which are different or strange. The game itself was perfectly winnable if it wasn't for the two people flaming the poor guy.

Angry Monster1 votes

So a few of the east coast (usa) streamers have been going to EUW cause the ping is roughly the same for them and they want to play with their viewer base. From what i understand that EU in generally has a pretty hostile environment, Players were being nationalist, recisit and in game jerks. I am not sure if the tribunal system being down so long is to blame or not. Riot has said that standard were set by what people found acceptable in each region. With the EU servers being multi nataiona/lingual they may have way lower standards since no one is expected to speak the same langue.

I am not saying NA does not have it share of trolls. It just that we do not have any nationalist issues since its USA and Canada, and everyone knows Canada is just our hat.

My advice is if you can see if their are less toxic times to play at. I personally try to avoid solo Q in NA untill around 7 pm. The kids have had time to unwind from school and have eaten dinner (west coaster) and some of them are already in bed! This may not be feasible for you though.

Fox Sign1 votes

I mute with extreme prejudice.

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