@riot, time to understand the facts

OldDirtay·6/21/2016, 7:00:13 AM·4 votes·401 views

"We did surveys asking players "do you like the ability to queue with any number of people in ranked" and in most regions the majority of players (over 70%) said yes, they do. ~10% didn't care, another ~7.5% sort of didn't like it, and the rest (something like ~7.5%) of players REALLY didn't like it."

this is just wrong, on many levels.....first not everyone participated in this survey so its already false in a numbers sense.... second this is wrong because not only did u mislead the question you forgot to make it the actual question...here let me rephrase it CORRECTLY for you.

Would you like the ability to queue with any number of people in ranked IF WE DELETED SOLOQUE IN PLACE OF A THIS SYSTEM THAT NOT ONLY RUINS QUE TIMES AND MATCH QUALITY BUT ALSO ALLOWS BOOSTING AND DESTROYS RANKED INTEGRITY....

thats how it should have been worded, with 100% truth to it not leaving out vital facts....how many people you think would have voted that way if they knew it would replace what they have been playing for years?

Not only that but why is there still NO PUBLIC SURVEY WITH VIEWABLE ANSWERS? i think i know why, because the survey would show different results.... i dont understand how u guys fail to miss this like it didnt happen nor will you make a survey that EVERYONE can answer without having BIAS'd MISLEADING QUESTIONS..... 5th grader could do this stuff, im not trying to be mean but sometimes the truth can hurt

"But the truth is that dynamic queue is working for most people, and we generally like it. It could use some improvements, but we think we're gonna get there."

dynamic que isnt working for most people, just because they are playing it (since its the ONLY QUE) it doesnt mean they are "satisfied" nor does it mean they "like this better than soloque" it simply means they have one route to take and are taking it... again everyone would seem to understand this but u guys for some reason

"If emblems aren't making solo players feel satisfied, we'll keep coming up with other ways for people to express individual skill (spitballing here, but what if we showed you your rank on every champion? Like "you're the #3 Singed player in EUW" sort of stuff?). There's a lot of ideas we have, but we just wanted to try out this emblems thing first as a step in the right direction."

vanity isnt why we are mad, an emblem or boarder nor what rank i am on X champion is going to make me or anyone else forget that premades fight unpremades, or that ranked integrity is crap, or that matchmaking times are way to long, or that being held hostage ina premade is not fun....you know what would solve this problem? a que where you are not FORCED to be in someone premade or a que with MATCHMAKING that doesnt have bronze silvers golds and plats all in the same game (dont tell me it doesnt happen cuz it happened this week, btw look at the analysis someone did about the premades matchmaking and how they fight solos about 25% of the time and actually fight another full team of 5 less than 10% of the time)

to sit here and say a system where it matches premades vs solos or even premades vs smaller premade+solos will just not work and it is flawed in its idea....u can bandaid it all you want but you cannot fix this problem....which just happens to be one of the biggest problems we have with it...

when will you guys give up and come to grips that u had a bias'd misleading survey, this dynamic que is FUNDAMENTALLY FLAWED, it has caused a heap load of problems, its been months of "fixing" and hasnt got much better (if at all) and you lied to us about soloque and for some reason never cared to come in and explain the difference between new champ select and dynamic que? i mean we all know why at this point but if you guys didnt make is so obvious we probably wouldnt have questioned it at all but after like 3 coincedences it kind of all starts to make sense, hell even gbay said it at the roundtable it being "an easier pill to swallow"

"We do wanna hear from you guys and adjust as we go. The changes we're pushing out now are just one step on the way."

we dont want you to hear us, thats all you do, we want you to LISTEN and actually THINK about this situation... if you did you would obviously see why this system is flawed at best and very destructive at worst and there is no place for it in the terms of replacing soloque

u want your dynamic que? make a different que....if people dont play it then you failed...its simple as that

yet on the other hand, if u make it a new que and people still que for it (like your numbers suggest what 80+% of people like it? no need to worry then) and then you can show population numbers or w/e and the one with least play will have high que times etc

but we all know why you will not do this, because you will be faced with your project being a failure....who fking cares if it failed everyone makes mistakes....but i do fking care when ur in the drivers seat after hitting a person with ur hands on your ears screaming nothing happened everything is fine!....

its not fine

@riot what i want you to come to grips with after reading this -#1 your survey was not only bias'd but very misleading so you can stop using those as proof of anything till u make a survey that EVERYONE can take part in and see the answers with all the pros and cons of it.... watch the difference.....would you eat a worm?...most would answer no right? now let me add the part i left out......would u eat a worm if i paid you 3 million to eat it? see how the answer changes by adding that last part? like how your answers would be different if you added "we are getting rid of soloque" to your survey?

-#2 in surveys you let EVERYONE VOTE on ANSWERS THAT DONT HIDE ANYTHING, like how your answers FORGOT to mention that it would replace soloque and soloque would be deleted, along with teambuilder, ranked 3's ranked 5's etc

-#3 OWN UP TO YOUR MISTAKES....im tired of always hearing " we're sorry we'll do it better next time" no...next time has come and gone, you're off the project....if u cant do something as simple as relay information without either hiding anything or even think about easy concepts (like premades vs non premades being bad) then you should just be fired..... how many times honestly can you go "sorry we fucked up we'll do better next time...then u dont and repeat this 15x.....how many times is to many times?)

-#4 LEARN FROM YOUR MISTAKES.....say i make a fan blade.....say this fan blade is to short or to big.....say i work on this fan for 6 months because of said blade being to big/small.......do i keep working on it or just put the blade that worked back on? catching my drift? DQ failed, as have many other projects and yet to this day ive NEVER seen you up and come to realization that it was bad and reverted it....EVER....lets DQ be the first time u realize ur mistake and actually revert it

-#5....stop....just stop telling us you're listening, stop telling us sorry, just stop all that....let your ACTIONS speak for you....i and many others are tired of hearing "We are listening!" only to have ideas and basic information fall on deaf ears.....we are tired of hearing "We care what you want" only to have w/e we want throw out the window in preference for what YOU want....we dont want to hear "We are sorry we will do better next time" because frankly this is the next time of the next time of the next time (repeat) and its old....either you arent sorry and dont care, or you are sorry and care just have no way of fixing the problem..... EITHER WAY, you shouldnt be on the project anymore

TLDR riot needs to understand basics b4 they get into "skewed data from bias'd surveys or linking us to liking or prefering something because we pick the ONLY WAY to actually que atm...

seriously riot, this is 5th grade logic stuff and how you guys cant understand it still boggles my mind

btw for those wondering, i got these quotes from http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/features/rethinking-ranked-fives-and-tuning-dynamic-queue comments

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