You argue against people who talk about elo hell and then this happens....

Sniper 0·Aug 20, 2015·1 votes·395 views

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/43886766#ranked-stats

I was wrecking face with zac prior to this.. Not saying elo hell is a thing but come on....

I dunno just feel the need to vent my frustrations... I've gone from a 78% winrate down to a 61% winrate.... in about 24 hours... regardless of how well I performed during a match...

Just kinda sucks that I was telling people there was no elo hell and then this. is a bitch. edit I need someone to bitch at me and tell me I'm bad or the opposite. == Because I honestly don't know what to think at this point.

12 Comments

redniwediSAug 20, 20153 votes

Matchmaking will constantly try to adjust so that your win rate is around 50%.

Now, there are two main attributes to Elo Hell:

Trolls, ragers, afks, and the like.
The inability to climb/carry.

As to point 1, this happens at every rank. Sometimes it happens more, sometimes it happens less. As human beings we are more likely to remember the bad.

Point 2, however, is the real key. When your win ratio finally stabilizes at 50% you may find it very difficult to climb. This is supposed to happen. Some people simply cannot accept that they are at their skill level in ranked, and would rather use Elo Hell as a blaming crutch than focus on what they need to do to improve. This makes the term Elo Hell far more applicable to the mindset that leads to this sort of blaming.

Basically if you focus on yourself and work to improve rather than blaming some mystical Elo Hell then Elo Hell won't effect you.

Sniper 0Aug 20, 20151 votes

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Matchmaking will constantly try to adjust so that your win rate is around 50%.

Now, there are two main attributes to Elo Hell:

Trolls, ragers, afks, and the like.

The inability to climb/carry.

As to point 1, this happens at every rank. Sometimes it happens more, sometimes it happens less. As human beings we are more likely to remember the bad.

Point 2, however, is the real key. When your win ratio finally stabilizes at 50% you may find it very difficult to climb. This is supposed to happen. Some people simply cannot accept that they are at their skill level in ranked, and would rather use Elo Hell as a blaming crutch than focus on what they need to do to improve. This makes the term Elo Hell far more applicable to the mindset that leads to this sort of blaming.

Basically if you focus on yourself and work to improve rather than blaming some mystical Elo Hell then Elo Hell won't effect you.

I was already at a around a 50% winrate overall. :/ Picked up zac and started carrying. So what you're saying is I'm getting paired with people with lower winrates to bring my winrate back down to 50%? cool. I mean that's what I'm reading.

redniwediSAug 20, 20154 votes

That's not quite what I meant. You're being placed against (and with) better and better players, until your own skill is not enough to carry a match. That is when solo carrying stops and teamwork is required to have a 50%+ win rate.

Sniper 0Aug 20, 20151 votes

So me trying to encourage my team even though we're down 4 deaths at 10 minutes and have a team member already declaring gg for 75% of the time is indicative of my skill level? I mean I'm not arguing but this has been happening a lot lately.

Zac is pretty much made for teamwork. If I can't get the team behind me then there isn't really much I can do. I'll just show you a particular match. http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1922889913/206501891

And from what you said I should be plateauing not dropping off like this...

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1924448146/206501891 Icing on the cake right here.

And the games that were my fault or at least I perceive it as being entirely my fault. http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1923977165/206501891 http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1923633658/206501891

I mean I wanna discuss this. I'm not trying to argue. I'm just upset, mad, and irate. I need to talk about it. z.z I know when I'm not on my game during a match.

redniwediSAug 20, 20154 votes

Two things to keep in mind here:

Skill level =/= emotional maturity
The matchmaking system can only take skill level into account.

AFKs, trolls, and people who give up early all throw a wrench into the system. Those people, when they are at their best, are about as good as you when you are at your best. The problem is there is usually someone in each game that is playing less than their best.

Sniper 0Aug 20, 20151 votes

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Two things to keep in mind here:

Skill level =/= emotional maturity

The matchmaking system can only take skill level into account.

AFKs, trolls, and people who give up early all throw a wrench into the system. Those people, when they are at their best, are about as good as you when you are at your best. The problem is there is usually someone in each game that is playing less than their best.

So lets say that I've had an abnormal amount of wrenches thrown at my system.... I mean I was the wrench on a few occasions but more often then not I work really hard to encourage my team especially when i feel like someone is tilting.

redniwediSAug 20, 20153 votes

It happens, but if you keep trying the law of averages will eventually side with you.

Sniper 0Aug 20, 20153 votes

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It happens, but if you keep trying the law of averages will eventually side with you.

Thanks :/ I appreciate your time. It's just frustrating to have this kind of a streak. I mean it's shit like this that cause people to support the "elo hell" theory.

The12thman94Aug 20, 20151 votes

I've literally had a stretch of 10 ranked games in a row where someone went afk. Once in a week long stretch 1 out of 3 of my games had an afk on my team. There is such a thing as elo hell. Now, I know I'm not that great of a player, but just because I can't carry doesn't mean I shouldn't be able to climb.

Sniper 0Aug 20, 20151 votes

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I've literally had a stretch of 10 ranked games in a row where someone went afk. Once in a week long stretch 1 out of 3 of my games had an afk on my team. There is such a thing as elo hell. Now, I know I'm not that great of a player, but just because I can't carry doesn't mean I shouldn't be able to climb.

Exactly.... I'm not saying I'm amazing but I have been touted for having great map awareness by players much higher than my skill level :/ And game presence.

redniwediSAug 20, 20152 votes

Unless you're incredibly lucky you will have to carry most of your games, particularly at the lower half of all ranks. Keep this in mind when you're looking at how skilled and knowledgeable some of the higher ranked players are at this game.

And so that no one has to look it up I'm gold 5, which is in that lower half.

The12thman94Aug 20, 20151 votes

The thing is unless you are good its impossible to carry yourself out of bronze where I am at. I'm not a great player, just solid. I have bad games and I have good games. All I want is to feel like I have a chance at climbing but right now I've quit playing ranked because I'm tired of being so close to climbing just to fall back down because of afks and trolls.