Let's just be professional on the Boards.

TBT water·Jul 15, 2015·132 votes·9,847 views

Okay, just hear me out.

TL:DR: If you ask for something from Riot (or anyone for that matter), do it politely.

I'm seeing way too many posts on the boards that are rage-filled. Riot probably isn't going to listen to you if you are screaming at them whilst cursing. Think about it. If you were a Riot employee, working on champion balance, wouldn't you be more inclined to fix Aatrox or nerf Kalista of you were asked politely to do so? We, as League players could get a lot more changed if we minded our manners and proposed ideas in a professional and detailed manner. I don't want to see any more "Kalista is so f-ing overpowered she gets a free f-ing skillshot dodge after every f-ing autoattack!!!"

So what I'm proposing is that we all put our big boy pants on and act like civilized people.

To help outline my proposal for a newfound air of professionalism on the boards, here are some rules:

Never curse - Cursing is universally regarded as being rude and unprofessional.
Use correct grammar - Using bad grammar will nullify most points you have, no matter how good they are. The reader will most likely subconsciously (or consciously) dismiss you as an idiot and will take your point less seriously.
Always respect Riot - They, after all , made the game, and allow you to play it. Despite their small faults, they made an amazing game that millions love to play. They deserve a great deal of credit for that.
Respect how hard it is to balance League - Look at it this way. there are 126 champions in League! (That's a lot in case you didn't know.) Keeping an omnipresent balance in the power of every champion and item and map and buff and so on is nearly impossible! So next time you find yourself thinking "The balance team at Riot sucks!", think again. They have a lot to work with and think about, with the game changing over time. On the whole, Riot does a great job. The game is addicting even after being out for 5-6 years. There is a reason why League is so good, and that reason is that Riot makes it that way.
_Don't use Caps Lock _- Just don't... It's an eyesore that gets nothing done.

Let's just act like adults.

Thanks for reading.

Edit: 7/15: Added a TL:DR. Also, wow! Almost 40 upvotes within a few hours! Let's really try to make this heard within the community.

Edit: 7/16: Removed "what not do do" link, as it, in hindsight, conflicts with the board guidelines.

83 Comments

RiotGeneralMillsJul 15, 201565 votes

I tend to think that if you used this same template for all conversations the world would be a happier place...

Thanks for taking the time to write this up.

TBT waterJul 15, 20159 votes

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I tend to think that if you used this same template for all conversations the world would be a happier place...

Thanks for taking the time to write this up.

Aww, thanks man :')

Ariel the CruelJul 16, 20155 votes

Steps required to create world peace.

create mind control device.
create mobile stealth delivery system.
use victims to create mass paranoia.
create puppet leader.
Offer resolution in the form of heavy restriction.
use victims to eliminate those who reject resolution. . . Publicly.
Enslave people by way of fear.

An early version of step 1 has already been completed in mice.

DecritJul 16, 20153 votes

I call BS, the only required steps are

wifi
patience

XeynidJul 16, 20152 votes

pretend like having an overly pessimistic view of the world in any way makes you sound intelligent.

Ariel the CruelJul 16, 20151 votes

It's supposed to be funny. (>_>)

Laughing FishJul 16, 20152 votes

Steps required to create world peace.

Elect Chuck Norris as President of the United States

HighKingOfSkyrimJul 16, 20152 votes

Make it sticky

Silents429Jul 16, 20152 votes

Honestly as someone optimistic towards everything Riot,

Why do you guys bother here?

You respond a ton, take the occasional suggestion, but all that flies over the heads of idiots still raging towards you, this has to be a disheartening place to visit for any of you.

LaowPingJul 15, 20159 votes

Common sense? Logic? Politeness?

Get the fuck out!!!!

Seriously though, we would progress so far as a human race if we just learned how to properly convey feelings and opinions without being dicks towards each other.

LuggJul 15, 20158 votes

Good post, but I present the following:

Totally agree with the first rule. Kids use these forums.
It is nice, but unfortunately since this is the US, grammar isn't really taught.
With as much money as Riot has made off of me, I think I am entitled to the occasional rant.
Perfectly balancing the game is definitely hard, but there are OBVIOUS cases where champions and items need fixed and fixed quickly.
It can be used to emphasize significant points.

As for the rage you see in the forums, it's due to people getting fed up with Riot not punishing bad behavior and fixing obvious issues. People run out of patience at some point.

ArmsticeJul 16, 20153 votes

{quoted}

With as much money as Riot has made off of me, I think I am entitled to the occasional rant.

You aren't entitled to anything, that's your problem. You either pay for a cosmetic improvement to the game or a way to play less and earn more in game currency. No part of those fee's are for the actual service(s) required to deliver the league exp. to your home computer.

So smile, someone out there thought enough of you to want to entertain you for free.

LuggJul 16, 20152 votes

I understand your point of view, Yes, LoL is a free game and you don't have to pay anything if you don't want to. In which case you definitely are not entitled to anything.

However, Riot is a business. In order for a business to stay in business, they have to make money. Riot has already said that they don't make money off of the LCS, so it is the players who provide the money. Players are customers and customers DO have entitlements if they are paying money.

ArmsticeJul 19, 20151 votes

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I understand your point of view, Yes, LoL is a free game and you don't have to pay anything if you don't want to. In which case you definitely are not entitled to anything.

However, Riot is a business. In order for a business to stay in business, they have to make money. Riot has already said that they don't make money off of the LCS, so it is the players who provide the money. Players are customers and customers DO have entitlements if they are paying money.

Wrong, you are a customer, customers can choose to purchase a product or not. That is what you are entitled to. If you don't like it, you can return it for a refund just like any other business. It seems pretty simple to me.

TeemoJenkinsJul 15, 20156 votes

I like this idea. Unfortunately if people had the capacity to act like adults chat bans / reports wouldn't be necessary.

Civil DawnJul 15, 20156 votes

Actually, no. Nobody listens to any constructive, respectful, & well-written response unless it gets massively popular due to LCS relevance or some other sort of thing. I definitely agree (with the OP) that raging doesn't help a case. However, honestly, the only way to get anything done around here anymore is to make a bandwagon post with no explanation or proof so that nobody has to actually read.

Proof: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/bnbvfzEj-one-way-you-could-do-ranked-teambuilder-in-depth-idea http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/riot-official/AL66zXPE-upgrading-the-tribunal http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/vaPIyocw-can-we-see-some-qol-changes-for-supports Our current lore situation Literally the entire Support role's position. Outsiders who would only play Support if they can play Thresh [I have proof of people who do this] look at Support and think it's fine. But if you actually main more than 4 Supports in the role you will see that it is not fine. Does anybody care? Nope. Why? Because nobody plays it, except for the players like me who actually really care. This can go hand in hand with many other champions...... See Taric, Yorick, Etc.

Honestly it's truly heartbreaking to see the champions that essentially brought me to this game and literally make up half the game for me game be completely ignored because the popular champions or aspects get all the attention. What's even worse, is when anyone tries to draw some attention to them, it gets completely ignored as well because, yes again, nobody cares. Why read and support a post about improving a role that exists and is loved by many when you can read about people being tired of item 3708 in [you guessed it] the immensely popular Midlane. It's not that other things shouldn't have attention and changes, it's that ALL of it is on them, and parts of the game [see Support, and even ADC] have literally no representatives or people to stand up and say "Hey, we don't like this.... Perhaps we can work together for a change?"

It's as if League of Legends is a country and there's like 10 entire states with no representatives or influence. Are there people in those states? Oh yes. Do they contribute to the country? Definitely! But does anyone care? Nah.

Violet SkyJul 15, 20153 votes

are you one of riot lyte's cuckold fanboys

ImNotOriginal7Jul 15, 20153 votes

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Okay, just hear me out.

I'm seeing way too many posts on the boards that are rage-filled. Riot probably isn't going to listen to you if you are screaming at them whilst cursing. Think about it. If you were a Riot employee, working on champion balance, wouldn't you be more inclined to fix Aatrox or nerf Kalista of you were asked politely to do so?

Not really...you have to be pretty incompetent to balance around "did this person ask me politely?".

We, as League players could get a lot more changed if we minded our manners and proposed ideas in a professional and detailed manner. I don't want to see any more "Kalista is so f-ing overpowered she gets a free f-ing skillshot dodge after every f-ing autoattack!!!"

A post can make very good points and be highly disrespectful at the same time,I mean take a look at the following statements:

1)What kind of a retarded monkey thought kalista's passive was a good idea? It's absolutely horrible to play against as a melee or a skillshot based champion,do we really want this game to devolve to kalista+annie point clicking yasuo+ryze?

2)I think kalista's passive isn't designed too well,it makes it too easy for her to kite all immobile melee champions,and the reliability of skillshots isn't exactly balanced around that sort of mobility either,making it too easy for her to avoid,I think this sort of mobility pushes the game towards a point-click meta,which I personally don't want to see.

Now before you immediately react,read both carefully,do they really say anything different? If a professional is reading either of them,will he get a different impression from any of them? They both convey the same message just that the first one is more aggresive,granted I'm sure riot wouldn't reply to the first but might respond to the second,but the message they get across is the same.

Just because a post has a very negative tone doesn't mean it isn't valid,nor does it mean the validity is hidden or is harder to understand,all it means is that the post has a very negative tone so you probably don't want to reply to it,and with the balance team being busy,they will most likely won't reply anyway,so...eh.

LittleBlastJul 16, 20155 votes

I think that the 2nd gets the point across better because you dont sound like a whiny little bitch that has nothing better to do with his time then to insult riot because they released something you don't like.

ImNotOriginal7Jul 16, 20152 votes

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I think that the 2nd gets the point across better because you dont sound like a whiny little bitch that has nothing better to do with his time then to insult riot because they released something you don't like.

But the point is they are professionals,they're not supposed to go "well,the community is showing a lot of hate towards kalista,and claim she is bad for the game,had they asked us nicely,we would comply,but we won't improve the game cause they are a bunch of meanies".

They see the criticism,they see what aspects of her kit is aimed at,and they get the impression that they don't like said parts,they get the exact same expression from both statements,after all is "a whiny little bitch" not part of their playerbase?

SociopathFriendJul 16, 20154 votes

Because the "whiny" attitude automatically makes the person appear more opinion-based than the other approach. Opinion-based claims mean less than fact-based claims

A serious portion of the playerbase has no idea how to properly balance champions, so the more immature you make yourself seem, the less likely people are to listen to you. Yes, that was a general statement, but it is also a little correct. Remember that some people still think champions like Teemo and Malzahar needs nerfed because they're too strong.

ImNotOriginal7Jul 16, 20151 votes

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Because the "whiny" attitude automatically makes the person appear more opinion-based than the other approach. Opinion-based claims mean less than fact-based claims

Again,read both of the original statements carefully,they are both opinion based,and based on the same opinion,in both of them the statement is made that hyper mobility devolves the game into point and click.

In fact when you say that a certain champion is bad or obnoxious it's always opinion based,a champion can't be obnoxious as a fact,and in both cases if the opinion is common enough,riot might want to do something about it as the playerbase is clearly frustrated with it.

A serious portion of the playerbase has no idea how to properly balance champions, so the more immature you make yourself seem, the less likely people are to listen to you.

Being negative and being immature are two very different things,I've seen plenty of completely moronic statements made in a very civil manner,and plenty of very solid statements made in a very negative tone.

Yes, that was a general statement, but it is also a little correct. Remember that some people still think champions like Teemo and Malzahar needs nerfed because they're too strong.

I think they don't think them to be too strong,but instead because they feel their gameplay isn't healthy,and those ideas have some merit to them,it's debatable whether they are right or wrong.

Baron of BreadJul 16, 20151 votes

If we have to go back and read it several times to check if it is or is no opinion based then there is something wrong with the way that you stated it.

Mature people can be stupid just like everyone else. Just because something someone says is stupid doesn't make it immature. Maturity is shown in how you say things more often than what you say.

ImNotOriginal7Jul 16, 20151 votes

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If we have to go back and read it several times to check if it is or is no opinion based then there is something wrong with the way that you stated it.

That's because if you read it carefully(as I've asked at the exact same post),it's very obvious:

"1)What kind of a retarded monkey thought kalista's passive was a good idea? It's absolutely horrible to play against as a melee or a skillshot based champion,do we really want this game to devolve to kalista+annie point clicking yasuo+ryze?

I mean look at it,the second post ends with "which i personally don't want to see",how is that not an opinion then?

Mature people can be stupid just like everyone else. Just because something someone says is stupid doesn't make it immature. Maturity is shown in how you say things more often than what you say.

As I've said,its not that immature people can be stupid or not,you claim negative tone is immature,whereas I claim that to not necessarily be the case.

Baron of BreadJul 16, 20151 votes

Both of the examples are opinion based, as is most everything when talking about game balance. However, the first of the examples fails to state why "It's absolutely horrible to play against as a melee or a skillshot based champion," and the second one does. So the second one is at least a supported opinion, which is better than unsupported.

The problem with rudely stated opinions is that if it is a complex opinion that requires some large amount of support, people just aren't going to spend the time to read the whole thing. They will write it off as a rant within the first couple of sentences so even if you have it well supported by fact people will consider it unsupported.

Another problem with rudely stated opinions is that people just don't like the rudeness. How much effort does it take to politely state an opinion? Not a whole lot, so why should I spend any effort on reading something that you didn't spend the effort on to make pleasant?

ImNotOriginal7Jul 16, 20151 votes

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Both of the examples are opinion based, as is most everything when talking about game balance. However, the first of the examples fails to state why "It's absolutely horrible to play against as a melee or a skillshot based champion," and the second one does. So the second one is at least a supported opinion, which is better than unsupported.

Okay be honest for a moment,if you would've read only the first,would you be left wondering "well I don't understand why it's bad playing vs kalista as an immobile melee,or as one that is reliant on skillshots"? I mean sure,some guy who played 10 games and saw kalista once might not get why,but this isn't exactly the people such posts are aimed at,for a rioter(hell,for anyone who has seen kalista couple of times),it's insanely obvious where these statements are coming from.

The problem with rudely stated opinions is that if it is a complex opinion that requires some large amount of support, people just aren't going to spend the time to read the whole thing. They will write it off as a rant within the first couple of sentences so even if you have it well supported by fact people will consider it unsupported.

There are a lot of issues with passing off complex opinions,and you can pass them off in a heavily negative tone,you can also write a massive post and have people just ignore it,a lot of things can happen,besides,the bigger issue here is that people are looking for an excuse to downvote,not that the opinion carries a negative tone.

Another problem with rudely stated opinions is that people just don't like the rudeness.

Why? It's one thing insulting the reader specifically,it's another thing altogether to pass off heavy criticism. I mean I agree with your observation,but what if heavy criticism is in order,can it not be made then? You focus a lot on the readers reactions,and you do have a point there,but that doesn't take validity away from the poster himself,it raises issues about the readers.

How much effort does it take to politely state an opinion? Not a whole lot,

It depends on the situation,when things are messed up enough,it can get very hard. I mean hell,I'm pretty sure both kalista posts would get upvoted,not sure which one will get more though.

so why should I spend any effort on reading something that you didn't spend the effort on to make pleasant?

I don't know about you,but as a person who detests kalista the first reply seems more pleasant to me than the second one,and in plenty of cases(not this one however) very polite responses feel sugar-coated and down-playing big issues into smaller ones,just cause it's more polite,I'd definetly prefer the negative-honest tone there than the polite-sugar coated tone.

Baron of BreadJul 16, 20151 votes

Okay be honest for a moment,if you would've read only the first,would you be left wondering "well I don't understand why it's bad playing vs kalista as an immobile melee,or as one that is reliant on skillshots"?

Sure I know that. Does that mean I think you thought out your statement? No. As far as i know you don't understand why it sucks to be against Kalista as a melee or a skill shot champ, just that it does.

I mean I agree with your observation,but what if heavy criticism is in order,can it not be made then?

Just because you are criticizing doesn't mean you are rude. You can criticize and still be polite about it.

It depends on the situation,when things are messed up enough,it can get very hard.

I can understand frustration and all that, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't at least try to be polite.

I'd definetly prefer the negative-honest tone there than the polite-sugar coated tone.

Just because it is polite doesn't mean it isn't honest.

ImNotOriginal7Jul 17, 20151 votes

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Sure I know that. Does that mean I think you thought out your statement? No. As far as i know you don't understand why it sucks to be against Kalista as a melee or a skill shot champ, just that it does.

So what are you suggesting then? That the first author is just mumbling incoherent nonsense which just happens to make sense? It's a witchhunt at this point,you are looking for excuses to downvote.

Just because you are criticizing doesn't mean you are rude. You can criticize and still be polite about it.

I said negative tone,I didn't say rude,heavy criticism cannot be done in a neutral or positive tone,for small criticism it can be masked,and even then part of the message is lost,for heavy criticism an even bigger part is lost.

If you look at both examples,once again both convery the same thing,if you assume that both authors have the same feeling on the matter(which is kind of what I am going for),the first one conveys frustration with the matter much better than the second one,where it really isn't clear how big of a problem the author thinks kalista to be.

I can understand frustration and all that, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't at least try to be polite.

I disagree,there are ups and downs to both approaches.

Just because it is polite doesn't mean it isn't honest.

At some point when criticism get's heavy enough,the polite thing to do is down-play the issue,it does lose honesty then.

Baron of BreadJul 17, 20151 votes

At this point I think we will just have to disagree. Have fun on the Rift.

Mecha MaIphiteJul 16, 20151 votes

It's better off to be polite. Just to put it into a different perspective, would you react differently if a stranger told you to fuck off, versus if the same person asked you to give them some space?

ImNotOriginal7Jul 16, 20151 votes

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It's better off to be polite. Just to put it into a different perspective, would you react differently if a stranger told you to fuck off, versus if the same person asked you to give them some space?

This is severely over simplified.

First of all,polite towards who? I mean if I write a post bashing riot's balance team,isn't it a bit silly for people who are not riot's balance team to get offended,especially if they agree with the statement(otherwise might as well downvote it anyway,that's what downvotes are for,if I disagree with a post I will downvote no matter how polite it is)? Whereas if you are someone from riot's balance team,I'm hoping you already got some thick skin as to balance being questioned,and if you see such post getting upvoted,you should still be able to use that as feedback.

I mean obviously if I make a post the sort of: "I stack in bronz cuz you all fegit feeders afkers drag me down fuk this game you all suck i shud be challenger but cant cuz you trashes are too havy for me to carry" is pointless,as it is pretty much offensive to everyone,but balance threads bashing the balance team are fine in my opinion(even if that means red wouldn't reply to them) for example.

Mecha MaIphiteJul 16, 20151 votes

Why would you make a post to bash riot's balance team and expect them to respond? You can make a thread about how certain champions/gamemodes/items/whatever are in dire need of buffs/nerfs/reworks, or point out a flaw in one of their systems (overpriced runes, etc), but making a post specifically to flame someone should mean you already know and accept you are not going to get any real replies. And ultimately, discussion between rito-ers and players is going to help a lot more than rito-ers reading certain threads and potentially misinterpreting what they're trying to say.

ImNotOriginal7Jul 16, 20151 votes

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Why would you make a post to bash riot's balance team and expect them to respond?

You don't. Generally you don't expect riot to respond anyway(This is understandable,they have other things to do),so it's rather wasted effort to make it more riot friendly,especially when you want to pass off heavy criticism.

You can make a thread about how certain champions/gamemodes/items/whatever are in dire need of buffs/nerfs/reworks, or point out a flaw in one of their systems (overpriced runes, etc), but making a post specifically to flame someone should mean you already know and accept you are not going to get any real replies.

Let's face it,generally when you make a post(this is especially true for over priced runes or champions) you already don't expect a red reply,so why put extra effort in that?

And ultimately, discussion between rito-ers and players is going to help a lot more than rito-ers reading certain threads and potentially misinterpreting what they're trying to say.

The issue is,once again,they are just unlikely to reply,more than that,they can always(and this is what they do) just find another thread on the subject which is civil,the point of a thread is something generally like raising awareness towards the issue(both playerbase and riot),and it generally does that,a rioter seeing a very negative kalista thread with a lot of upvotes might feel like he wants to say something on the matter,so he will just find a civil thread(again if an issue is a common concern,which is generally when riot decides to reply to begin with,you will have plenty of threads on the subject) about her and reply to that.

disregardableJul 15, 20152 votes

No, fuck that. The problem is not the language used but the message behind it (poor grammar excluded- we do need to actually understand what you're saying). If it's just your typical circle-jerk complaints with no suggestions or solutions (like that post), there is nothing to be said. What can they really say to "You have a bunch of failings, some of which are completely subjective! I quit!" ? The point of going on the forums is not to be a nice person; we don't need to be uber respectful of Riots flaws. If anything, we should probably be challenging them. We just need to do so in a discussionary manor. If that's even a word.

RoaranorJul 15, 20153 votes

The point is to respect them because they're actual, living, breathing humans. End of story.

Treating someone like a human and challenging their stances on topics are not mutually exclusive. You can do both.

disregardableJul 15, 20152 votes

Using harsh language isn't being disrespectful to Riot, it's being expressive. That's (part of) the fucking point.

FuryofThornsRedoJul 16, 20151 votes

I think Riot would appreciate the Consideration of Intelligent Minds Equipped with the Level of Professionalism THEY Are Paid and Entitled to Receive as the signed Contract Riot Employees they are.

Well said CC Kero!

From: FuryofThornsRedo

RoaranorJul 16, 20151 votes

Thanks.

stealthfox94Jul 15, 20152 votes

Wow a post on this forum regarding RIOT that actually makes sense and uses logic.

jDiosamaJul 15, 20152 votes

I'll be constructive, but I'm also gonna be a d*ck about it. Sorry, that's kinda how I am.

AerothalJul 15, 20152 votes

uhm...

Hello I am BirdJul 16, 20152 votes

I disagree

SookoJul 15, 20152 votes

Finally

AnihakuJul 15, 20152 votes

I think the point he is making is........you can still be mad/angry/sore/pissed etc.........but conduct yourself in a respectful manner when posting. Everyone gets mad at some point, learn how to effectively communicate.

UiruJul 16, 20152 votes

You can only say the same thing so politely so many times before the lies and silence begin to grate.

Riot is lucky people are still posting rageposts because the next phase is nothing. That's when people have finally moved on to something else.

Conus25Jul 16, 20151 votes

FUK U RITO BELANCE CHEMPS CORETLY! Is this right?

WajsterJul 16, 20151 votes

So even though this person directly calls out someone on the forums, even linking to their thread his post will stay up because its a "for Riot" post.

DastinJul 17, 20151 votes

In general people who complain about Riot remind me of spoiled children.

As somebody who has played MMOs from various developers, some of them quite loyally for years, I've come to see Riot as being one of the best if not THE best game developer/company around. They don't always do perfect but you can't expect them to. Nobody is perfect. However they do get far closer than any other I've ever seen by a large margin. It may change in the distant future, it usually does, but for now they're the most down to Earth and transparent gaming company I've had the pleasure of being a customer of.

Constructive criticism is one thing but if you're raging at this company you need to go experience how most every other one operates. You'll come back on your hands and knees begging Riot to take you back and talking about how wrong you were to leave it.

Stealing from Churchill a bit (and in turn whoever he borrowed it from originally) but; Riot is the worst gaming company except all others.

BakedLotionJul 17, 20151 votes

Did Lyte brainwash you? O: Cursing isn't exactly unprofessional. If you're working with all adults, and not in education (with kids) everyone throws curses around when speaking to each other, or publicly. Well I grew up in brooklyn so idk bout u Ofc its not like random nonsense cursing like fuck you fucking bitch, it's more like "So our sales went down today cause of that fucking company" etc

jQueryJul 17, 20151 votes

If you were a Riot employee, working on champion balance, wouldn't you be more inclined to fix Aatrox or nerf Kalista of you were asked politely to do so?

I just hope that you formulated this badly...

Because this just sounds bad; They don't need our begging to do what they singed up for. When one accepts a job one agrees to take responsibility for his production for a monetary compensation. Enjoying the work does help... but that is another topic.

What you said sounds like, "Quin fixes are late coz you don't beg Reds enough".

But i do agree with you, and that is valid for all post anywhere on the internet. No one wants to respond to a angry and rude man, and on the internet with our avatar accounts we have the privilege to ignore such people without being bothered.

But people also need to remember that these Boards != Riot Support. As much as I can understand Rioters are not obligated to read and write here, and most of the time they do it is in their private time.

So who ever thinks that this is the place to let off some steam for his frustration with the game or the community; can do so. I for example sometimes feel the need to let rioters know that there is something within their game that Im frustrated about (Like not having a tribunal for 2 F**** years!)... And that's it, i just want o be a voice in the many and remind them that we still do care. And this in my opinion also has a place on these boards. Reds do not need replay to this post of mine. And I don't expect them to do replay.

How ever when one manage to find a good solution for the aspects that frustrates him, should be polite and clear in his post in order raise his odds in striking a conversation with the Developer that might get use of that suggestion.

Also no one should point out and criticize Reds that just want to hang out in the Meme section late at night ! Someone did that recently and i think its wrong. They are not enslaved to Riot.