The victim complex.

FH Roxtar·Apr 11, 2016·1 votes·655 views

Does everyone on this game have one? It seems to me Riot is endorsing a new era of players who are essentially victims in EVERYTHING they do on this video game.

If they're toxic? It's not their fault - it's their team or YOUR fault.

If they do bad? It's the team's fault. Or the junglers fault.

And Riot is fine with this. Give them a report function to abuse and bam, there you have it. The worst game in the world (with a decent fanbase) and instead of actually developing a community of mature, competent gamers? They've enabled a community of toxic "victims" who use any and EVERY excuse imaginable to mash the report button.

And it doesn't even HAVE to be that way. You can easily remove the report function, add in some mature features and separate the community by what they want. Or add a REMOVE CHAT function for everyone so nobody has to read or put up with that shit.

5 Comments

IngénueApr 11, 20162 votes

Reports are looked into, and if players are being falsely reported by these kinds of players, they wont actually face punishment. Funny that- you wont be punished if you do nothing wrong. If for some reason a punishment comes through and you believe you are innocent, you are able to appeal your case through player support.

The report function is so important in lessening the impact of truly toxic players, some that you will probably have encountered yourself.

I agree with one point, that so many players are stuck playing the blame game.

Brody BigguApr 11, 20161 votes

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Reports are looked into, and if players are being falsely reported by these kinds of players, they wont actually face punishment. Funny that- you wont be punished if you do nothing wrong. If for some reason a punishment comes through and you believe you are innocent, you are able to appeal your case through player support.

The report function is so important in lessening the impact of truly toxic players, some that you will probably have encountered yourself.

I agree with one point, that so many players are stuck playing the blame game.

You say that reports are looked into and if you dont do anything you cannot be punished but most of the times when I report a player within 5-10 minutes a message appears saying the player has been punished. How is that enough time for someone to look into it and see if it is false or not? All that matters is how many people report the person at the end of the match.

Deep Terror NamiApr 11, 20161 votes

A person is not looking into it, the Instant Feedback System checks their report history and searches for punishable behavior. It is very good at doing this, with about a 1:6000 false positive rate.

All that matters is how many people report the person at the end of the match.

This is false. Punishment is calculated per match, not per report. 1 report has roughly the same weight as 9 in an individual match. As much as some people would like to think Riot put no thought into the system or that a computer can't distinguish toxic behavior very well, they are sorely wrong; Riot has put an insane amount of work into it.

I encourage you to visit Lyte's ask.fm page and other sources to read up on how the system actually works.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/player-behavior/reports-how-do-they-work

https://ask.fm/RiotLyte/answers/133759089858

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/Boqd81O0-upcoming-upgrades-to-chat-restrictions

http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=4737274&page=13#post48926281

Brody BigguApr 11, 20161 votes

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A person is not looking into it, the Instant Feedback System checks their report history and searches for punishable behavior. It is very good at doing this, with about a 1:6000 false positive rate.

This is false. Punishment is calculated per match, not per report. 1 report has roughly the same weight as 9 in an individual match. As much as some people would like to think Riot put no thought into the system or that a computer can't distinguish toxic behavior very well, they are sorely wrong; Riot has put an insane amount of work into it.

I encourage you to visit Lyte's ask.fm page and other sources to read up on how the system actually works.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/player-behavior/reports-how-do-they-work

https://ask.fm/RiotLyte/answers/133759089858

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/Boqd81O0-upcoming-upgrades-to-chat-restrictions

http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=4737274&page=13#post48926281

"instant feedback system" Judging from how that sounds the system could easily mistake some small talk about the game mechanics itself as an insult towards another player. I have seen plenty of things specifically made to respond to what someone types and judging by how those go I highly doubt the system truly understands when a player is insulting someone or just saying "how is this a bronze game"

IngénueApr 12, 20161 votes

In which case, if a punishment is issued falsely, you can get it appealed through player support.

However, in the majority of cases, the instant feedback system is highly accurate.