Vel'Koz discussion thread

bulletbear··1 votes·672 views

Since Vel'Koz's release day he has been pretty much my go to champ. I generally do really well with him mid lane, even against his strong counters. And his support potential is crazy.

Me and my buddy went from Low Bronze to Silver by using a very very strange duo in the current meta. Volibear/Vel'Koz bot lane. Something about the combo works so well.

In my opinion Vel'Koz has a very high skill cap as he is an entirely skill shot champion with 0 mobility , which automatically puts him at a disadvantage in current meta. Hes a great team fighter and can pretty much nuke any enemy champion if you land your combo successfully which is partially why I enjoy him so much. ( its really satisfying having the enemy adc walk just a little to close to you and then just one shooting him.

anyways thats my opinion/stories of Vel'Koz. Please post more!

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GankhísKhan2 votes

Vel Koz isn't a high skill cap champion. His skillshots aren't even that hard to land, seeing as he has a CC combo that allows him to easily land combos. If you land one, you can land the rest of the abilities.

A very high skill cap champion would be someone like LeBlanc. Landing a combo on Leblanc is harder now without the silence and to escape. I'd have to put Vel Koz to a medium skill cap champion. A hit or a miss. If you land it, easy follow ups. If you don't, then you miss the combo. While on a champion such as leblanc (No more silence) landing a full combo in succession may be difficult, unless you catch the enemy by surprise. Ahri is another AP champion with a higher skill cap, while she is mobile, her CC is harder to hit than Vel Koz.

The 0 mobility on Velkoz is not really a worry, since if anyone attempts to gank him he can easily either E the ground infront of their path/ or Q infront of the path. Or he can E himself if for example theyhave a gap close (Pantheon stun). Other champions such as Ahri (Pre 6) have to be careful of when they use their charm, because if it's down (long CD) she has no escape. The only disadvantage I see Vel Koz is; is having the laning phase if he is being camped.

While I agree we are in a mobile meta, vel koz is actually anti-mobile. His slow is really effective, his E disengage is good, and his ult is at a high enough range that he can hit most champions who try to run away.

The combo you have at bot lane is very odd, and most likely succeeds due to the adc/support not being able to keep at a distance; or they do not know how to kite a volibear. A flip into a vel koz E into a Q could spell instant kill if you time it nicely. Most adc's would be out of range for that, and most supports would CC volibear or try to stop him. (Popular supports: Thresh/blitz/Leona/sona/soraka) all of these have some sort of range or some sort of cc to stop volibear or to counter the volibears engage.

bulletbear1 votes

I pretty much agree with everything you said, High skill cap is not 100% accurate and you're right about him being hit or miss. The Hardest part about landing his Combo is that he is very telegraphed when using all of his skills. allowing pretty big windows to dodge his combo, but when landed its pretty devastating with his passive true damage. His Low Mana costs really put Vel in a good spot for harassing early game.

And the thing about our duo bottom is its usually kinda hard to catch an adc out of place which is why we are always hapy when someone picks a champion like blitz or Leona where they literally bring themselves or their ADC within range for Volibear to charge them and toss them back to me as Vel'Koz, successfully isolating one of the two or pretty much killing one of them instantly which sets up for a good position to 2v1 the remaining man

I appreciate the contribution.

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