Verbal Abuse Needs To Have Harsher Punishments

Water of Eden··4 votes·634 views

I'm so sick of literally every game I play being either full of feeders or Trundle , but the absolute worst are the people who are extremely verbally abusive. I was harassed my last entire game as JarvanIV by whichever lane i was presently not in. If I was mid, bot would blame me for their getting tower dived when I needed to save our Gragas . If I was top helping Nasus , then Gragas would throw a fit about why he wasn't getting any ganks. From that, it devolved to pretty much every lane asking for ganks all the time to being verbally abused, insulted, called a "%%%" several times (seriously, if you're calling people %%%s, you should be auto-warned the same way you get auto-warned for idleness), and then blamed for pretty much every time anyone was killed ever. The insane levels of toxicity in League makes it super discouraging to play at all. Especially since most of what I play is ranked, and as soon as a flame war begins, the game is basically lost unless something improves. We need to have stronger penalties for verbal abuse and toxicity at all levels of play. Verbally abusive and toxic players abuse teammates in more than one game. Just look at any case on the Tribunal. You barely ever see someone being verbally abusive in just one game; it's on average, anywhere from 4-7 games with about 10-12 reports.

AFKing has strong penalties due to AutoBuster. Verbal abuse destroys games just as easily. I've reviewed just over 20 cases in the Tribunal and most people get off with either warnings or a 1-day time ban and restricted chat privileges, which, by the way, reduce your chances of winning anyways. So we need to come together as a community or make sure the people who are being verbally abusive face harsher, longer punishments.

13 Comments

MackleDoge4 votes

The punishment scales with the number of times they are punished for that behavior. So the more frequently they do it the faster they will end up receiving a permanent ban.

Water of Eden2 votes

How exactly does it scale? Is there a time ladder? Ie 1st time x days 2nd time y days 3rd time z days.

MackleDoge3 votes

It is the number of times punished by Tribunal. For instance the first time will often be a warning. Depending on the number of reports or the percentage of punish votes the second time could be another warning or it could be a small time ban (3-5 days). At that point bans scale up to a week long and then I think there is a two week ban then just permaban. As far as the actual number of times the offense has to be reported and punished in Tribunal I'm not certain, I imagine Riot has those statistics but that isn't something that is published to the public. What is published is statistics showing that the Tribunal does work and in a fair number of instances results in that summoner no longer exhibiting that behavior.

Water of Eden2 votes

And is that for anything or just for verbal abuse, afking, etc? If I afk and get banned for a day and then verbally abuse someone will i get banned for 3-5 days despite never having been reported for that?

MackleDoge3 votes

Well, afk bans and leaving bans are handled by the LeaverBuster system which is automated, and are not handled by Tribunal. So I imagine those are separate. As far as if you have been reported and punished for Verbal Abuse before and then you get reported afterwards for Negative Attitude, I'm not certain if it will have an increased punishment based off your previous toxic behavior or if it accrues separately. Good advice would be avoid such behavior entirely so you don't have to worry about it and trust in the Tribunal system to deliver the appropriate verdict on reported cases.

LiarLyre1 votes

Toxic players are the worst. A close friend of mine has a long history of being toxic and coincedentally I cannot recall the last time I won a game playing with him. Something I find that helps some of the time is to try and nip that toxicity in the bud. Sometimes a quick explanation or acknowledging when you screwed up is all it take to delay the inevitable implosion long enough to push the game well into your favor.

Water of Eden2 votes

Alright, thanks a lot guys! This really helped! I wish some people in the community would be a lot more like you guys :|

MackleDoge2 votes

It's all good, I'm certainly glad to help. Any other questions just post another thread and hopefully I'll be on the forums to see it, I try to be pretty active on here. If not then you can always add me in the game if you'd like to ask about anything else and I'd be more than happy to try to assist.

Scottishhound2 votes

i think also in this case. i had a friend who was toxic and having people who enjoy the game as friend helps them to be less toxic. i talked with my fiend and told him i was ashamed of the behavior (more or less) and they have been a lot better since. i understand having a temper but at least they stopped losing us games cause of their negative attitude.

sometimes all it takes is a nontoxic friend to talk to the toxic ones :)

on another topic the info here is good to know, though i still think verbal abuse needs a more serious punishment. honestly i am a fan of warning then straight up ban. having a chat ban hurts other players too not just them. if they are banned from chat just ban them from game for a day or two instead. or limit them to custom games

MackleDoge2 votes

You make a good point. Simply chat restricting people harms team cohesion and can make communication and play calling during the game extremely difficult. Perhaps having a step in between a warning and a time ban might be a possible solution? Something along the lines of a 5 hours logged in time ban or a 1 day ban?

SoDeceptive1 votes

lets just mute people in real life when you get "verbal abuse" it shouldn't even be a thing, grow the fuck up there fucking words you little crybabies.

Scottishhound2 votes

just words yes but excessive swearing is unnecessary. i negative attitude make the game far less fun to play. because in the end it a game and should be fun. for those that play competitively good sprotsmanship should be you top priority. when you complain about and swear at you team it brings down the team moral, this is a team game after all, and swearing and yelling make you look like a child and the lack of sportmanship is appaling in so many cases.

so yes they are just words, but it is also just a game and losing or a bad game here and there is no reason to start swearing and getting angry. to that end the below post is great for those that find it hard to not be angry. follow the easy steps shown there and you may find you have better games and less upset teammates... and in the end may actually find you getting less ban time from the tribunal

http://community.na.leagueoflegends.com/c/behavior/nmPiRXvg-how-to-stop-being-toxic-you-know-who-you-are

Water of Eden1 votes

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