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Lessons I've learned after a two week ban.

Indications··5 votes·1,116 views

I have been banned after being trashed by premade 4s multiple times and they always end up mass reporting me. Punishment is intended for self reflection, and I surely have done that. This ban helped me ponder a lot about my future actions. Thus my actions following my ban will be the following:

  1. Bring friends to play normals. Numbers and majority is all that matters in this game. No matter how tough a person is, you and your three friends will always overcome the random person on your team in any way.

  2. Remember to give that one person a hard time. 4 people ganging up on one person, whether if it is trolling flaming or bashing him always always result in success. Anything he says can be countered 4times back. It will make you and your friends feel incredibly powerful while rendering him helpless.

  3. Always report that one person after the game, along with all of your friends. 4>1, you will get four reports on him while he only gets one on each of you.

  4. Evaluate your success. More than likely, he will retaliate by trying to defend himself against the four of you. If he says ANYTHING, it can be used against him in the chat logs as being toxic, since we already reported him four times. In the rare cases where he knows how the automated tribunal works, he will remain silent, and therefore making your four reports worthless.

  5. Repeat this procedure. There will be a much higher chance that the player will say something back negative rather than staying silent or muting the four of you. In the long term over many games you will have taken advantage of the system and succeeding in preying over helpless single players.

  6. Spread the news. As more people will be unjustly banned, they will learn this technique and spread it to their friends, which will continue in a chain reaction.

  7. League becomes increasingly toxic throughout, and Lyte will have banned so many players that they will all quit the game, do well in school, and pursue a phD in cognitive neuroscience like Lyte (as I am right now) and become amazing social designers for video games.

I truly do believe punishments will help reform player behavior, thank you for reforming my behavior for me.

Good luck and all the best to those single players in normal games!

24 Comments

Deep Terror Nami7 votes

Nice post, but you've made it abundantly clear that you don't know something very important;

Multiple reports from premades do not stack. You claim to be abused by this, but this is inherently not abusable. (edit: to clarify, it's not just that premade reports count as 1, it's that the number is always irrelevant. 1 valid report in a match is 1 red flag. 4 valid reports in a match is still 1 red flag)

If someone is harassing you, mute them and report them. That's all there is to it. Don't bother trying to justify toxicity just because someone else started it, as that is a child's excuse.

Their reports are not weighed any more than yours unless yours isn't legitimate and theirs is, or if you often make illegitimate reports. Someone who repeatedly reports for no reason has the weight of their reports diminished up to the point of it not doing anything at all.

Indications1 votes

You cannot convince me to believe in that statement unless you post a credible source cited by a Rioter claiming what you said is true.

Deep Terror Nami6 votes

I already know you don't care or believe it. All the answers are in the LoL support page right up top, but I don't trust you're the type to believe even if you read it yourself unless you do your own research. If I spend the time to get the link that you can easily obtain yourself you'll just waste it by claiming some conspiracy theory that Riot is lying.

TL;DR - Look it up yourself.

Indications1 votes

Considering that I am well educated, I take any solid valid argument into account. Every argument is supported by solid evidence. You simply saying you can find it yourself is an excuse to prove yourself right.

If you can legitimately find the source, I will retract my statements, acknowledge your argument and concede to it. By saying "you can find it yourself or come up with another conspiracy" is not going to convince anyone in real life in any argument.

If what you say is indeed the case, then my strategy above will be useless, rendering my post meaningless.

If you fail to prove your argument, I will continue to stand by my own point.

Deep Terror Nami4 votes

"Well educated"

It doesn't matter how smart you are if you stand by a conclusion you refuse to do 1 minute of research to verify.

I understand I have the burden of proof, I simply don't care.

Indications1 votes

If you don't care then why bother making any arguments at all? You can live your entire life without the perspective of others nor listening to their opinions, so why bother discuss anything?

And considering I graduated from an Ivy League university you don't have to doubt my education or mock me.

(Inb4 making comments about Ivy League)

X8ViEhkPS01 votes

{quoted}

If you don't care then why bother making any arguments at all? You can live your entire life without the perspective of others nor listening to their opinions, so why bother discuss anything?

And considering I graduated from an Ivy League university you don't have to doubt my education or mock me.

(Inb4 making comments about Ivy League)

Pics or didn't happen.

Kãtãrinã2 votes

I could say i went there to. Doesn't make it true. You can pretty much say anything you want on the internet buddy lol. I'm pretty sure NO ONE things you went to Ivy League University honestly. Especially with such a childish attitude like yours. You don't even sound like you got out of High School yet.

Links to "reporting" information that you can use. straight from riot : ) This however doesn't say all or most of whatever the other dude said. but abusing the report system can result in a ban : )

https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201752884-Reporting-a-Player

Deep Terror Nami2 votes

You know, I'd rather put you in your place for good, so I spent my own time and gathered the citations myself.

Player behavior systems are not just based on reports. Even if a premade of 4 reported you, if the reports are false, you won't receive a penalty. All player behavior systems are backed by the Report System, which tries to validate every single report. If a report is false, the reporter loses "value" in his reports and the relevant player behavior system ignores the reports. If a report is accurate, the reporter gains "value" and his reports become more powerful. The current Reform System analyzes chat logs for negative behaviors, so it goes beyond just looking at false or accurate reports.

DOES PLAYING MORE GAMES MEAN I HAVE MORE CHANCES OF BEING BANNED? The Tribunal takes into account how many games you have played. If you've played thousands of games and get reported a hundred times, you will be less likely to enter the Tribunal than someone who played a hundred games and is reported a hundred times. Keep in mind that if you are extremely toxic in a small number of games over a short period of time, then the Tribunal may issue a suspension against your account. CAN PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIKE ME REPEATEDLY REPORT ME? This is unlikely, but it's possible if you find yourself repeatedly matched into games with them. Players are limited to one report per player per game. Also, consistently making false reports against others diminishes the value of a person's reports and renders them meaningless.

Please bear in mind that constantly reporting Summoners for violations of the code that they did not commit could result in your account being suspended due to the abuse of the reporting system.

ANOTHER SUMMONER TOLD ME HE'S GOING TO REPORT ME FOR NO REASON. WILL THIS FALSE REPORT COUNT AGAINST ME? Like all of our behavior systems, the Behavior Alerts system is built on a complex formula that takes into account the behavior of all summoners, which helps to avoid a message being sent your way for a false report. We also take into consideration toxic players, or those who frequently abuse the reporting system, so even if you get reported by one of these players, fear not, we've got you covered!

However, I don't think there are many unjust bans and chat restrictions, and players are definitely not being chat restricted just because of being reported--the system doesn't work off just reports. Secondly, the Report System validates every report, so if you are a player that false or troll reports often your reports are worth nothing to all player behavior systems. If you are a player that reports accurately, your reports become more valuable. All replacement systems directly assess and review chat logs, and all systems have some form of manual review to ensure a high accuracy.

more questions to Lyte about the new system

Any questions?

AMYS GRAVE1 votes

Nice.

Kãtãrinã5 votes

This OP is salty AF. like wow. You are probable extremely toxic in games hence you got banned. its very rare to consistently run into 4 man premades and if you don't like those go to ranked max is 2 there :D

SmokedAlmonds4 votes

Do you really expect people to read your post talking about your method of trolling to bait people into rage and then believe your ban was anything other than deserved?

Linthe2 votes

TLDR for OP: Use the mute button

Indications1 votes

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Linthe3 votes

{quoted}

TLDR for you: I want to toss your pubes into my salad.

And this is why you are bannned.. And I am not... See how that works??

AMYS GRAVE2 votes

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/miscellaneous/ve8wcngj-heres-the-chat-log-tell-me-why-i-got-banned-for-14-days

You can post another thread but responding with toxicity is still toxic.

Indications2 votes

Nononono, you are misled. I learned my lesson after all that's been said on that thread. In this one I want to focus on how I will reform. I am a new and better man.

Powderkegg2 votes

K

Colgate Gator1 votes

{quoted}

I have been banned after being trashed by premade 4s multiple times and they always end up mass reporting me.

Yes, because it's more likely that you kept getting barrage after barrage of salty premade 4's who decided they wanted to bring you down for not being in their group of friends instead of, you know, you actually being a handful and people decided your behavior was ban-worthy.

No, of course not, that's impossible.

Indications1 votes

Thank you for being the only one who agrees with me. I finally have at least one supporter on my side. Well written sir :)

KingCzar1 votes

{quoted}

I have been banned after being trashed by premade 4s multiple times and they always end up mass reporting me. Punishment is intended for self reflection, and I surely have done that. This ban helped me ponder a lot about my future actions. Thus my actions following my ban will be the following:

  1. Bring friends to play normals. Numbers and majority is all that matters in this game. No matter how tough a person is, you and your three friends will always overcome the random person on your team in any way.

  2. Remember to give that one person a hard time. 4 people ganging up on one person, whether if it is trolling flaming or bashing him always always result in success. Anything he says can be countered 4times back. It will make you and your friends feel incredibly powerful while rendering him helpless.

  3. Always report that one person after the game, along with all of your friends. 4>1, you will get four reports on him while he only gets one on each of you.

  4. Evaluate your success. More than likely, he will retaliate by trying to defend himself against the four of you. If he says ANYTHING, it can be used against him in the chat logs as being toxic, since we already reported him four times. In the rare cases where he knows how the automated tribunal works, he will remain silent, and therefore making your four reports worthless.

  5. Repeat this procedure. There will be a much higher chance that the player will say something back negative rather than staying silent or muting the four of you. In the long term over many games you will have taken advantage of the system and succeeding in preying over helpless single players.

  6. Spread the news. As more people will be unjustly banned, they will learn this technique and spread it to their friends, which will continue in a chain reaction.

  7. League becomes increasingly toxic throughout, and Lyte will have banned so many players that they will all quit the game, do well in school, and pursue a phD in cognitive neuroscience like Lyte (as I am right now) and become amazing social designers for video games.

I truly do believe punishments will help reform player behavior, thank you for reforming my behavior for me.

Good luck and all the best to those single players in normal games!

Yeah the ban system is a joke, i am not even toxic i hardly ever talk lol and i get banned. theres probably not a point to me attempting to be a nice person, maybe ill be impulsive and say whats on my mind in chat since i get the same treatment.

Its pretty bad how horrible they are with this shit.

Hello Anonops05,

We have begun a new initiative to restrict players from the ranked queue. Ranked Restrictions have a higher threshold for punishment compared to chat restrictions and require more reports and evidence of toxicity. Please bear in mind that not all chat restricted players will receive a ranked restriction. We will not be removing or reducing any punishments placed on an account. While the Tribunal is in recess we are unable to provide specific chat logs or reform cards for these restrictions.

An extensive audit was conducted on your account, which analyzed games played for extreme instances of negative and toxic behavior. As a result, we have decided to place ranked and chat restrictions on your account to help you adjust your behavior in game.

While the ranked restriction is active, you will need to win a number of Normal Draft games. After you win the requisite number of Normal Draft games, your account will be reviewed again to see if there was an improvement in your behavior. The restriction on the ranked queue will continue if this is not the case.

Chat restricted accounts are required to play a specific number of matchmade games for it to decrease. Additional chat restrictions may be placed after your first round is complete if there is no visible improvement in behavior.

This is a good time to re-evaluate in game behavior because if it will not change in the future, harsher punishments will follow. These may include timed suspensions or removal of ranked rewards.

We have also announced that players who have high amounts of toxicity in their games will not receive their ranked rewards. At this time, we are not able to tell you if you qualify for the removal of rewards. Not every player with ranked restrictions was punished in this way; only the worst offenders were affected.

For more information about this system, feel free to check out the Board post and FAQs below:

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/miscellaneous/1LJP1ovA-ranked-restrictions https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/203259670-Ranked-Restrictions https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201752984-Restricted-Chat-Mode

Rose Riot Player Support Specialist Prefers Top or Mid as Vladimir

So useless

A company doesnt have access to chat logs, a billion dollar company? No thats bullshit, they are just liars and dont want me to be unbanned, because they are too lazy.

Why are they even being paid? To spam ctrl v? wtf?

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