@Riot How the Heck do these Surrenders fail? Please explain.

KuroCubScout·6/4/2017, 9:27:32 AM·1 votes·472 views

Okay someone please explain to me how a surrender like this fails. if there is 3 people who vote yes to surrender but 2 disagree on the 20min mark how does this fail shouldn't it be automatic agreement since it's 3 against two? I'm going about his at a logical stand point so don't get me wrong I don't mind it sometimes but when you know your loosing and you have a draven that's fed and a Katerina that's fed how does this even work? someone explain another example is 3 votes yes 1 no and another doesn't vote how's that fail too? I just don't understand at all.

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Espy Psyche6/4/2017, 12:54:39 PM4 votes

Because it isn't a majority requirement, it's a supermajority (66%).

OP, you're posting from an NA account, so it's fairly logical for me to assume you're from the United States, since it's by far the largest nation in NA.

In the United States, a congressional bill passes with a simple majority (50.1%). After passing both houses with a 50.1% majority, the bill lands on the President's desk to be signed or vetoed. If the President vetoes the bill, Congress can override the executive veto with a supermajority in both houses (66%).

Surrendering a game is like overriding a Presidential veto. It needs better than a simple majority -- it needs a supermajority, and for good reason, because the people who voted against the surrender still lose LP if it goes through. Try surrendering a Twisted Treeline game 2-1. It goes through, because 2-1 is a supermajority with 66.66% (repeating, of course) to surrender. When a game goes to 4v5, 3-1 surrenders will go through becaues 3-1 is a supermajority with 75% to surrender. 3-2 votes fail because 3-2 is only a 60% to surrender and doesn't reach supermajority thresholds.

And "Abstain" votes (which is when someone doesn't vote) is not a vote in favor, so it's effectively a vote against.

Master Vemira6/4/2017, 10:22:59 AM1 votes

If you're talking about pre 20 minute ff, it has to be completely unanimous. Laymens 5/5, 100%, etc.