Can we stop

OldDirtay·Jul 11, 2015·1 votes·729 views

releasing broken items the nerf champions because they work to well with said item

then to make matters worse you will nerf the item after you nerf 6+ champions and finally realize its the item then nerf (or remove) that item and not undo any of the nerfs because of it?

kinda reminds me of feral flare...

riot please....this is why there is a test server, to stop these dumb ideas before they hit live...not only that learn its the item breaking these champs and not the champions themselves

please please please....start learning from your mistakes, not copy them and call it something else

17 Comments

Snowball4uJul 11, 20151 votes

You gave no examples other then feral flare And i dont even know what you mean by feral flare... It never really got nerfed, (in my memory)

OldDirtayJul 11, 20151 votes

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You gave no examples other then feral flare And i dont even know what you mean by feral flare... It never really got nerfed, (in my memory)

um, its gone bro..... and rightfully so, and i wasnt making a post as to every time they've done it, just the fact its been and being done

Snowball4uJul 11, 20151 votes

Still have no clue what you're talking about yes I know the feral flare is gone but devouror is the same thing.

Variks the LoyalJul 11, 20151 votes

If an item comes out that's balanced on most champions who use it, and OP on one, do you nerf the item or nerf the one champion?

OldDirtayJul 11, 20151 votes

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If an item comes out that's balanced on most champions who use it, and OP on one, do you nerf the item or nerf the one champion?

problem is its never just one and after about 6 champ nerfs they will either nerf it or remove it

morale of the story? use the pbe to test things so they dont come to live broken, and dont nerf a champion because of an item

champion before item=fine champion after item=broken

the champion shouldnt get a nerf, the item should....this is like 1st grade logic

Iris FlowerJul 11, 20151 votes

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problem is its never just one and after about 6 champ nerfs they will either nerf it or remove it

morale of the story? use the pbe to test things so they dont come to live broken, and dont nerf a champion because of an item

champion before item=fine champion after item=broken

the champion shouldnt get a nerf, the item should....this is like 1st grade logic

This is pretty true though.. and it forces said champion to buy it, otherwise he will be weaker than if he were to buy any other item, practically limiting variety in builds.

Iris FlowerJul 11, 20151 votes

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If an item comes out that's balanced on most champions who use it, and OP on one, do you nerf the item or nerf the one champion?

Pretty sure you nerf the item.. there are plenty of items to use and you buy most of them situationally anyway. Nerfing a champion because of the item forces him to get that item every time or he will be much weaker after a nerf BECAUSE of the item.

"Oh hey this item is too strong on this champion. Let's nerf the champion and force him to get that item just to go even" How to destroy build variety 101

OldDirtayJul 11, 20151 votes

thank you zero

you restored my faith that not everyone is a derp when it comes to common sense logic lol

Iris FlowerJul 11, 20151 votes

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thank you zero

you restored my faith that not everyone is a derp when it comes to common sense logic lol

Yes I agree with the point you were trying to make, but not really how you said it. I think you could be more calm and collected and post valid points and examples rather than just say it's dumb logic.

OldDirtayJul 11, 20151 votes

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Yes I agree with the point you were trying to make, but not really how you said it. I think you could be more calm and collected and post valid points and examples rather than just say it's dumb logic.

all of my points were valid? -we need to stop nerfing champions because of broken items -next was examples of what happened with FF and how they nerfed a bunch of champions before removing the item totally -next line was saying that this reminds me of how FF caused this same situation to happen -next line is explaining we have a test server and it should be used to stop things like this before live -last line was saying riot hasnt learned from their mistakes because...this is happening all over again

was it because i said stop these dumb ideas before they hit live? i am calm, im not raging for saying someone who fkd up on something fkd up, im explaining the situation. Not only that but i think i made valid points and examples unless you werent around for FF or dont remember what went on when it was introduced up to its removal....

and yes im sorry, nerfing champions over a newly released broken item that will also get nerfed or removed it self is in fact dumb logic....or if you dont like the word dumb should i say bad logic? my points remain valid, wether or not you get offended at the word dumb (btw i didnt call riot dumb, i called the process of nerfing champions because of an item dumb and also the fact that they dont use the test server to properly test things.....i think both of those are dumb logic and not the fact im calling them dumb)

Dark NephthysJul 11, 20151 votes

Yea I love playing Shyvana Top lane and I have a strong feeling that she is going to be badly nerfed because of the sated devour...I mean she was already nerfed this patch due to her "potential" of it, and after some games that I've played and a lot of people complaining...she's probably about to be so gutted that she would be impossible to play top lane >.>

Iris FlowerJul 11, 20151 votes

It just doesn't make any sense to me. They release BRAND new items then nerf champions because of their potential for them.. but the champions have been around for so much longer than the item. Some of them were rarely even played, and if they nerf them BECAUSE of the item, how can the champion even be played at all without it?

Stars ShaperJul 11, 20151 votes

Or start releasing items that make OP a larger pool of champions.

It's always about Ezreal and attackspeed champions. WTB an item that makes Xerath, Morde or even Galio OP.

Iris FlowerJul 11, 20151 votes

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Or start releasing items that make OP a larger pool of champions.

It's always about Ezreal and attackspeed champions. WTB an item that makes Xerath, Morde or even Galio OP.

Xerath was played very frequently in competitive last split and the split before. His Q is extremely short cooldown and near unlimited mana in lane. He can spam his abilities so much compared to any other mid laner (besides ones like karth of course) and imo ez needed something. runeglaive is a bit much for sure, but i think they just need to make his W do something else, and his E prioritize champion instead of closest target

Stars ShaperJul 11, 20151 votes

I know that and my main is Xerath so I know how powerful he is. It's just that there has never been a "OMG X item makes Xerath totally OP please rito nerf".

Like, AP scaling with distance. Xerath ult dealing 3k+ per shot xD