And then we have this tier system..

Lyless·Oct 5, 2015·1 votes·1,119 views

Which punish losses way more harshly than wins. It also favors more "common used champs" over ones less popular! What a great system. Move up 2 spots if you win and drop 6 if you lose.

61 Comments

EnvironmentalistOct 5, 20153 votes

HAHAHAHAH IT'S LYLESS! I was wondering where you were. I hadn't seen any bronze complaints from you in a while. :3

FlahertyOct 5, 20152 votes

No, that only happens if you lose a lot more than you win. Go on a win streak and you start winning a lot more than you lose. Don't blame the system for your poor ability to play the game. Accepting that you need to improve is the first step towards improving.

LylessOct 5, 20151 votes

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No, that only happens if you lose a lot more than you win. Go on a win streak and you start winning a lot more than you lose. Don't blame the system for your poor ability to play the game. Accepting that you need to improve is the first step towards improving.

And I am not losing. My team is. SO, I am punished because people don't know what they are doing!?!??! And did you forget there are 4 other teammates that on my team also. I am not a bad player this system is sucks.

People like you keep saying need to improve. How do you know I am not just getting stuck four other players who can't play thus I lose because their actions which I cannot control either. But hey, just like most "people like you", it always my fault or the poster fault. No it's your fault for accepting a crumby system like this and then passing it down like it's okay. It's not okay! Hell I might be a better player than. But we won't ever know that because this a team based game and if I get stuck with 4 noobs every game I will not win. So, I not only blame riot and LOL. I also blame people like you!

FlahertyOct 5, 20152 votes

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And I am not losing. My team is. SO, I am punished because people don't know what they are doing!?!??! And did you forget there are 4 other teammates that on my team also. I am not a bad player this system is sucks.

People like you keep saying need to improve. How do you know I am not just getting stuck four other players who can't play thus I lose because their actions which I cannot control either. But hey, just like most "people like you", it always my fault or the poster fault. No it's your fault for accepting a crumby system like this and then passing it down like it's okay. It's not okay! Hell I might be a better player than. But we won't ever know that because this a team based game and if I get stuck with 4 noobs every game I will not win. So, I not only blame riot and LOL. I also blame people like you!

At Bronze IV level you can just pick Tryndamere, and afk push one lane the whole game to take their nexus if you're really as good as you say you are. IDK how good you are, but after almost 400 games statistics say that you are where you belong.

AxxlonOct 6, 20153 votes

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And I am not losing. My team is. SO, I am punished because people don't--

Let me just stop you right there and say:

League of Legends is obviously not for you.

LylessOct 6, 20151 votes

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Let me just stop you right there and say:

League of Legends is obviously not for you.

wrong the moment, my team isn't trying and playing for fun in ranked is the moment they should banned from ranked. But Riot or LOL has no desire to do anything about this.

I have more passion for this game than you and you frankly don't deserve whatever rank you have based on that comment.

frigginmurlocsOct 6, 20151 votes

What rank do you want, and what do you deserve? They are not the same

BeatzBoyFTWOct 6, 20152 votes

I think it's time you should start a carry lane instead of having to babysit your team as a support all the time. The fact that you whine & whine about your selected teams while picking a role as a bitchy mother just really makes you look like an idiot.

http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Lyless

LylessOct 6, 20151 votes

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I think it's time you shoulding start a carry lane instead of having to babysit your team as a support all the time. The fact that you whine & whine about your selected teams while picking a role as a bitchy mother just really makes you look like an idiot.

http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Lyless

I think you should mind your own business and play your own way without input on mine. If you don't like what I have to say, there are other forums.

BeatzBoyFTWOct 6, 20151 votes

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I think you should mind your own business and play your own way without input on mine. If you don't like what I have to say, there are other forums.

I'm only giving out what I can think for you in my mind, yet all you do at Boards is always disapproving everyone else who has a say. And also, I'm pretty sure since you have a habit of this, I don't see why is there even a single benefit of you posting crap at Boards all the time. Either that, or I'm sorry you suck at handling critism.

Like I said, you're a big whiner. Learn to play a carry role instead of having to highly depend on your team to carry for you. That's how I did to reach Silver 3 unlike you who never learns to change for himself.

LylessOct 6, 20151 votes

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I'm only giving out what I can think for you in my mind, yet all you do at Boards is always disapproving everyone else who has a say. And also, I'm pretty sure since you have a habit of this, I don't see why is there even a single benefit of you posting crap at Boards all the time. Either that, or I'm sorry you suck at handling critism.

Like I said, you're a big whiner. Learn to play a carry role instead of having to highly depend on your team to carry for you. That's how I did to reach Silver 3 unlike you who never learns to change for himself.

Honestly, I could care less what you say to me. Carrying is a myth. You cannot carry with a team full of inexperienced feeders afkers and those who don't vaule teamwork. I already know how to play every role, I choose to be support or jungle. Why? Because I am best at that. That really doesn't matter, unless you have a good team it's useless. So, do yourself a favor and don't comment on my posts anymore if they bother you so.

BeatzBoyFTWOct 6, 20152 votes

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Honestly, I could care less what you say to me. Carrying is a myth. You cannot carry with a team full of inexperienced feeders afkers and those who don't vaule teamwork. I already know how to play every role, I choose to be support or jungle. Why? Because I am best at that. That really doesn't matter, unless you have a good team it's useless. And despite saying that you main in Support & Jungle, you're still stuck in Bronze 5. Saying carrying is a myth, you're still in Bronze 5 while 90% of others have already reached beyond from where you stand. Now that's what I call a "stubborn attitude unwilling to change".

And if you know how to play every role, why not play top/mid/adc for yourself? All you know is 100% depend on your teams to win games for you, yet you're too scared to act for yourself. I even saw some games of yours you were literally carrying the team as a Warwick, or some games where the ADC carries for you, so don't bitch around saying it's a "myth".

So, do yourself a favor and don't comment on my posts anymore if they bother you so.

I'm sorry, if you can get to bitchpost tons of whiny threads, then I don't see why I shouldn't have the rights to "bitchpost" your threads myself.

LylessOct 6, 20151 votes

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And despite saying that you main in Support & Jungle, you're still stuck in Bronze 5. Saying carrying is a myth, you're still in Bronze 5 while 90% of others have already reached beyond from where you stand. Now that's what I call a "stubborn attitude unwilling to change".

And if you know how to play every role, why not play top/mid/adc for yourself? All you know is 100% depend on your teams to win games for you, yet you're too scared to act for yourself. I even saw some games of yours you were literally carrying the team as a Warwick, or some games where the ADC carries for you, so don't bitch around saying it's a "myth".

I'm sorry, if you can get to bitchpost tons of whiny threads, then I don't see why I shouldn't have the rights to "bitchpost" your threads myself.

Yeah I carried for a some games as Warwick. But guess what, my team wasn't good enough to follow or push any lane at all. All they would do is chase kills, so it carrying alone doesn't work. Your team has to be focused on winning. Most of teams I get are not.

And those adc were good because of me. Some weren't bad. But they were winning lanes due to me.

Fine do whatever you want. But I don't take you seriously at all.

AnihakuOct 5, 20151 votes

If you are so unhappy with ranked.........you can always play the other modes. I for one am not going to even attempt ranked until next season. I'm really excited for the Team Builder ranked system they are hopefully going to try for S6.

You can always find people to que with too, you don't always have to solo.

LylessOct 6, 20151 votes

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If you are so unhappy with ranked.........you can always play the other modes. I for one am not going to even attempt ranked until next season. I'm really excited for the Team Builder ranked system they are hopefully going to try for S6.

You can always find people to que with too, you don't always have to solo.

other modes are a waste of time. Nothing is one the line. If you want to waste your time, fine. And Que doesn't work either you still have 3 bad teammates.

AnihakuOct 6, 20151 votes

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other modes are a waste of time. Nothing is one the line. If you want to waste your time, fine. And Que doesn't work either you still have 3 bad teammates.

Well the point is.......you have options other than ranked. Are you familiar with The Rolling Stones??? "You can't always get what you want"

You are just one of those people who like to complain about anything not going your way. We all give advice and you turn into a little child........

Riot pls remove this toxicity from our community. Summoners like this guy give LOL a bad name.

P.S. If you are so unhappy.....come up with solutions to your issues instead of whining about it. Why would Riot even begin to help you with your piss poor attitude.

LylessOct 6, 20151 votes

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Well the point is.......you have options other than ranked. Are you familiar with The Rolling Stones??? "You can't always get what you want"

You are just one of those people who like to complain about anything not going your way. We all give advice and you turn into a little child........

Riot pls remove this toxicity from our community. Summoners like this guy give LOL a bad name.

P.S. If you are so unhappy.....come up with solutions to your issues instead of whining about it. Why would Riot even begin to help you with your piss poor attitude.

Because this system is destroying this game, that's why!

SmokedAlmondsOct 5, 20151 votes

Let me ask you this. What do you think is the cause of all these randomly assembled teams you are facing working together better than the randomly assembled teams you are placed on?

LylessOct 6, 20151 votes

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Let me ask you this. What do you think is the cause of all these randomly assembled teams you are facing working together better than the randomly assembled teams you are placed on?

based on the fact. That there is no working with these people. They don't what they are doing. There is no talking or working with these people. They feed or don't know what they are doing. They have horrible map awareness and are just bad players. Nothing I can really do because I am support, they suck and I have rely on them. Don't tell me either to chose another role. That doesn't work either. There is no winning with who I am paired with.

FlahertyOct 6, 20151 votes

Shouldn't the other team also be full of bad players since matches are based on teams of similar MMR?

LylessOct 6, 20151 votes

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Shouldn't the other team also be full of bad players since matches are based on teams of similar MMR?

no that's not logical. DO you guys just keep recycling the same quotes over and over. The thing is they work together, my teams don't. Therefore I lose because of them.

FlahertyOct 6, 20151 votes

So you're saying that this game singles you out personally and puts you on a team with people who won't work together?

LylessOct 6, 20151 votes

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So you're saying that this game singles you out personally and puts you on a team with people who won't work together?

I am saying the system Is unfair and punishes a lot suppose lower players for what "the team" does. You don't seem to get it at all! I know one thing my team seem to have most of the trolls and feeders a majority of the time. And not only happens to me, many people have quit because of this.

FlahertyOct 6, 20151 votes

Have you ever played against a higher ranked person to see how well you did against them?

LylessOct 6, 20151 votes

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Have you ever played against a higher ranked person to see how well you did against them?

I have. I did fine. I always hold my own win or lose.

frigginmurlocsOct 6, 20151 votes

Have you considered finding a duo buddy?

LylessOct 6, 20151 votes

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Have you considered finding a duo buddy?

A duo buddy? That doesn't work either!

SmokedAlmondsOct 6, 20151 votes

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based on the fact. That there is no working with these people. They don't what they are doing. There is no talking or working with these people. They feed or don't know what they are doing. They have horrible map awareness and are just bad players. Nothing I can really do because I am support, they suck and I have rely on them. Don't tell me either to chose another role. That doesn't work either. There is no winning with who I am paired with.

But what do you think causes the ones who "don't listen" to be on your team and players that do work together to be on the opposing team?

So all these random people work together but just not with you. Is the problem really with them or is it with you?

Also I wasn't saying you should choose another role. Im saying you are wrong about your chosen role and that if you don't think you can influence the game then you aren't going to be trying to. The opposing team has 5 people trying and you just passively along for the ride thinking that everyone is holding you back. Basically a self fulfilling prophecy.

LylessOct 6, 20151 votes

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But what do you think causes the ones who "don't listen" to be on your team and players that do work together to be on the opposing team?

So all these random people work together but just not with you. Is the problem really with them or is it with you?

Also I wasn't saying you should choose another role. Im saying you are wrong about your chosen role and that if you don't think you can influence the game then you aren't going to be trying to. The opposing team has 5 people trying and you just passively along for the ride thinking that everyone is holding you back. Basically a self fulfilling prophecy.

the results tell the story. I can't even get my team to group mid when it's time or go for dragon. They do, and they win. They don't work with the entire team. The problem is with them. This is not on me. I will not take one ounce of fault for them feeding and then losing top lane when I am in bot lane. If you think I am going to do that, then you are crazy.

I can influence the game greatly. But I have to have a functional team. Not a bunch loose parts.

SmokedAlmondsOct 6, 20151 votes

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the results tell the story. I can't even get my team to group mid when it's time or go for dragon. They do, and they win. They don't work with the entire team. The problem is with them. This is not on me. I will not take one ounce of fault for them feeding and then losing top lane when I am in bot lane. If you think I am going to do that, then you are crazy.

I can influence the game greatly. But I have to have a functional team. Not a bunch loose parts.

But why do you think a team of 5 random players work together more often than a team of 4 random players + you?

What is the cause of that if not you, the only person all of your teams have in common?

LylessOct 6, 20151 votes

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But why do you think a team of 5 random players work together more often than a team of 4 random players + you?

What is the cause of that if not you, the only person all of your teams have in common?

So, what are you saying then? Everyone on this game should be trying to win. Not lose.

SmokedAlmondsOct 6, 20151 votes

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So, what are you saying then? Everyone on this game should be trying to win. Not lose.

I'm saying that if every team(or most) of the teams you face are working together better than the teams you are on that you are the reason. That means you work together with your team worse than other people of your rank.

LylessOct 6, 20151 votes

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I'm saying that if every team(or most) of the teams you face are working together better than the teams you are on that you are the reason. That means you work together with your team worse than other people of your rank.

Wrong. I beg these people to work together, go for turrets , not chase kills ect...... I fully know how to play this game. But I cannot babysit 4 others who won't listen at all. SO, you got it wrong. You can't work with those who don't listen or those unwilling to follow. Your argument is flawed.

SmokedAlmondsOct 6, 20151 votes

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Wrong. I beg these people to work together, go for turrets , not chase kills ect...... I fully know how to play this game. But I cannot babysit 4 others who won't listen at all. SO, you got it wrong. You can't work with those who don't listen or those unwilling to follow. Your argument is flawed.

The fact that you try to get them to work together doesn't at all speak to your effectiveness at getting people to work together.

What do you think the cause is then if not you? Why can 5 random people work together but 4 random people that were picked from the same pool not work with you?

LylessOct 6, 20151 votes

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The fact that you try to get them to work together doesn't at all speak to your effectiveness at getting people to work together.

What do you think the cause is then if not you? Why can 5 random people work together but 4 random people that were picked from the same pool not work with you?

you can't force people to work together. This is in no way my fault. If you are going to continue with this line of questioning then we have nothing more to discuss.

SmokedAlmondsOct 6, 20151 votes

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you can't force people to work together. This is in no way my fault. If you are going to continue with this line of questioning then we have nothing more to discuss.

You can't force people to work together, but other people are working together just fine. But you refuse to even acknowledge the significance of those same people not working with you.

By your own description over half the people you run into are working together, people just aren't working with you. So clearly w/e your methods to try and get them to work with you are ineffective.

LylessOct 6, 20151 votes

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You can't force people to work together, but other people are working together just fine. But you refuse to even acknowledge the significance of those same people not working with you.

By your own description over half the people you run into are working together, people just aren't working with you. So clearly w/e your methods to try and get them to work with you are ineffective.

Because they have the common sense to work together. If they want to win, they will work together. But that's not their goal. You don't seem to get it. They don't seem to have the desire to win.

You are so wrong it's not even funny!

SmokedAlmondsOct 6, 20151 votes

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Because they have the common sense to work together. If they want to win, they will work together. But that's not their goal. You don't seem to get it. They don't seem to have the desire to win.

You are so wrong it's not even funny!

You are the one who doesn't get it.

I'm not even arguing that what you are talking about isn't happening. I'm just saying you are the cause of it.

What do you think the reason is that everyone else can work together, but no one can work with you?

LylessOct 6, 20151 votes

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You are the one who doesn't get it.

I'm not even arguing that what you are talking about isn't happening. I'm just saying you are the cause of it.

What do you think the reason is that everyone else can work together, but no one can work with you?

I am not the reason. The problem is I am stuck playing with those far below me.

SmokedAlmondsOct 6, 20151 votes

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I am not the reason. The problem is I am stuck playing with those far below me.

Then what is the reason? Why can everyone else work together, but no one can work with you?

LylessOct 6, 20151 votes

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Then what is the reason? Why can everyone else work together, but no one can work with you?

They suck, they feed, they don't take ranked serious ect......

SmokedAlmondsOct 6, 20151 votes

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They suck, they feed, they don't take ranked serious ect......

So how do these people all end up on your team and never the opposing team?

When Riot made league they programmed in "if there is ever a person named lyless match them with all bad people against good people"?

XyIoOct 6, 20151 votes

If this is the case, there's technically a 5/10 chance that the enemy team has feeders but only 4/10 chance that your team does. I don't see how you lose more than you win in this scenario.

tseiheiOct 6, 20151 votes

I see Lyless doing the same as always.... why do people still respond to his posts?

LylessOct 6, 20151 votes

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I see Lyless doing the same as always.... why do people still respond to his posts?

Like you guys give the same advice that doesn't work or apply to the situation?

tseiheiOct 6, 20151 votes

i think it is funny how my smurf gets 30+ lp on a win, and loses only 9 on a lose.

it must suck to suck :)

LylessOct 6, 20151 votes

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i think it is funny how my smurf gets 30+ lp on a win, and loses only 9 on a lose.

it must suck to suck :)

Only thing is I don't suck!

SmokedAlmondsOct 6, 20151 votes

Even If I pretend that you are right, and just always matched with idiots. It's still a useless thing to focus on. Even if everyone else is an idiot you still have to work with them. There isn't and never will be anything you can do about who you are matched with. So you have to either learn to work with people or accept that this game just isn't for you. Or I guess continue to lose.

Improve your own play and you will win more, even if the improvement is only to be able to compensate for other peoples shortcomings.

LylessOct 6, 20151 votes

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Even If I pretend that you are right, and just always matched with idiots. It's still a useless thing to focus on. Even if everyone else is an idiot you still have to work with them. There isn't and never will be anything you can do about who you are matched with. So you have to either learn to work with people or accept that this game just isn't for you. Or I guess continue to lose.

Improve your own play and you will win more, even if the improvement is only to be able to compensate for other peoples shortcomings.

I have done this before. I deciated myself to WW and Nocturne and covered people mistakes. I improved greatly and in the end I still loss because who I was teamed with. I can't beat the enemy alone forever. That what you don't seem to get. It works maybe for a small period of time, and that's it. It always comes down to the team not the person.

EggstealerOct 6, 20151 votes

I'm so tired of Lyless' posts. he is a troll. build bloodthirster Tiamat on kayle and gets mad when we suggest different builds saying it's the champ that is bad and not him. don't even try to argue your point just give him a downvote.