I don't see how...

Lyless·10/7/2015, 8:51:43 PM·2 votes·1,239 views

Anyone can get better being paired with people beneath their skill level and that's what's constantly holding me back. Sure I could improve we could all improve. But pairing me with 4 rookies over and over again is recipe for failing.

55 Comments

TeemoJenkins10/7/2015, 8:53:01 PM8 votes

I know right bro? it's like those Bronze V's that buy sightstone, but still drop less than 10 wards in a match and then come on the forums to complain about their "rookies" team mates. Or they jungle and don't drop any wards in the matches... those darn rookies.

Daen10/7/2015, 8:56:55 PM6 votes
  1. Take a break from Ranked. Seriously. Play normals with a full premade of people you trust to do moderately well.
  2. Honestly, if you're going to keep making threads like this, just add me in the NA client and we can play a game together sometime.
SmokedAlmonds10/7/2015, 9:06:52 PM5 votes

People get better by focusing on their own play instead of wasting their time complaining about others holding them back.

nerak2310/7/2015, 10:16:58 PM4 votes

why are you assuming I have never practiced or took the time out to?


I never said I was perfect. I said, it's a waste of time for me to waste time practicing with the current players I have. I already have done that. I am not some noob and this is not a troll. I want to be the best this isn't about fun, it's about being the best. And just like a good player on an NBA Team I am being held back!

This make Me think you don't feel the need to practice ANYMORE and you have stated threw many threads how you are better then everyone you play with...all in all this makes it seem like you only want to blame others for what is happening in your games.

I'll state it simply if you don't learn from the people you play with, then you are in the correct tier. Sorry :(

Archon X10/7/2015, 8:52:55 PM4 votes

Is there a reason you don't get sweeper when you get sightstone? That's kind of a rookie mistake.

Treeofwar10/7/2015, 9:31:00 PM3 votes

another QQ thread from lyless just down vote and move on

SSJTribe10/9/2015, 4:56:30 AM2 votes

I got placed into Bronze 4 this season, and I knew I was better than that... So I got out. Currently Gold 4, in promos for Gold 3. A lot of what these guys are saying is true man. You can't control your team, only yourself. There will be trolls and afk's along the way, but you must do what you can to win. No one is perfect but again, you have to put yourself, (which in turn puts your team) in a position to win.

hh the thinker10/8/2015, 4:04:32 AM1 votes

if you win games, the games get harder. if you lose games, the games get easier. the only time this really stops is when you are either challenger near the top or bronze 5 near the bottom. nothing can really be easier than the lowest ranks since other team will make the most mistakes out of any other rank. if i played at bronze 5 at 100 mmr, i could go about every game without a death, unless i made a stupid mistake. if you can't do the same, then you 100% aren't playing perfect, let alone close to even a gold level (i say gold since i'm fairly sure most gold and up players can actually do the same).

people at bronze 5 are walking around as free kills on both sides, and if you aren't just collecting them, that means you are actually missing it. i've actually played at fairly low ranks before because that's where i started, but i focused on myself and it become easier the better i got.

i'm not saying any of this to be mean or anything, but when you say you play perfect as WW and noct, you are basically saying you are past faker level since even he isn't 100% perfect. no one is perfect and the better you play, the easier the games.

so many people have done bronze 5 climbs and just to get to bronze 5, they both would have the same teams as you and have tanked their mmr. they win about 95% of their games in bronze.

simple things you can do to climb:

position really well: this means get 0 deaths while still being in the game. while i was playing in bronze myself, i was able to go 0 deaths when going a role and champ i knew well when i really focused on it. sometimes i did die, but i had much less deaths and know the game much better now. for you, we can say 2 or less.

ward: you say your awareness is great right? so you know when to take free red and blue buffs from the other jungler when he shows up bot lane without red buff at the time his buff should be coming up. you also play perfectly enough to get every drag every time, even if you flash and smite steal it, and you can do this since you want the drag pit.

getting objectives: even if you low health, you can try to go for something when other team is ace or close to it and your awareness is good enough to know where the missing people are. kills are not the objectives, the towers, drags, baron, and inhibs are. the biggest one is the nexus.

skill shots: you either land close to 100% and dodge 100% in bronze 5, or you really need to practice this.

game knowledge: by this, i mean a bit of everything. you keep track of flash timers and ignite, and heal, and tp from the other team right? if you don't, you are making it harder than it needs to be. flash is 5 minutes so if the adc used flash at 21:24, they won't have it until 26:24. during that time, they are much more at risk. if they don't take flash, it's even easier to abuse their mistakes and they do make mistakes, you just have to catch them.

this is just basic stuff really, there is more advanced things to learn, but since you've actually said you are diamond level, you already do all of this and more. if you don't do all of this, than you are either a diamond player who is purposely being lazy, dying on purpose (they are really easy deaths to avoid, don't make excuses since you either know you are going to die in a situation, or you don't know and a diamond player playing at bronze 5 would know), and really losing on purpose; or you aren't as good as you think you are.

if you say you don't ward and the other things because it doesn't help in low elo or whatever, you still aren't doing what a diamond player would do to even help themselves out, not just the team. the way it helps a diamond player or anyone else with enough knowledge is it gives them free kills and reduce their deaths, which in turn leads to more drags, towers and everything else.

if you don't want to listen, then i'm just going to say that you will stay where you are, unless you passively improve. saying the system is broken isn't going to change it. it's not going to bring you up in ranked and if you say you can't climb because of your teammates, then no one will actually believe you are more than bronze in skill level, until you prove otherwise. imagine one of the really bad players on your team (like the gnar vs the nasus in your one WW game for example) saying they are diamond in skill, that's kind of how you look right now.

again, not trying to be mean, but i am trying to show you how it looks to everyone else.

DeynaTaggerung10/8/2015, 5:35:43 AM1 votes

It is hard to improve if everyone around you is at the same skill level or below. Which is why I recommend normals to improve your skills and then come back to ranked and climb. That's what I did when I was in B5 and it really helped me get that kickstart to move up.

Lyless10/7/2015, 9:31:05 PM1 votes

My point is vaild playing with people beneath your skill level doesn't help you improve.