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Please change combing skin shards to not lose massive value

Lord Dusteon··2 votes·1,283 views

As the title says. I had 3 skin shards: Red Baron Corki (skin permanent shard from 3 other combinations, 910 orange essence), Gentleman Cho (just skin shard, ~600 orange essence) and Silverfang Akali (just skin shard, 325 essence). For reference this is overall 1835 or so orange essence. Combining these all together (legendary skin permanent, legendary skin shard, 975 RP skin shard) gave me Nightmare Cho'Gath and 100 orange essence. Combining 1835 orange essence and 2 legendary skin shards gave me 100 orange essence and a 520 RP skin (worth 220 orange essence) that is literally a purple recolor of Cho. It's not even chroma level, as at least chromas contain 3 different recolors and use a decent splash art.

So here's the problem. I'm fine with combining these not giving another legendary skin. I'm NOT fine with combining them giving me one of the lowest quality skins in the game for a overall essence cost above that of making a legendary skin permanent. Please, please make it so that combining enough essence for a skin tier bars some of the lower tier skins from showing up. For instance, combining over 1050 essence of shards could guarantee a 750 RP skin or higher, 1520 a 975 RP or higher, and so on. Something so that at least the skin gotten isn't complete shit compared to the amount put in.

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BleedingPluto2 votes

that defeats the whole point of a reroll and some people dont like the skins that cost more. for example alot of people prefer debonair ezreal over pulsefire (and im one of them) due to it simply having a nicer cleaner model. Plus remember all skins are just for looks... and beauty is in the eye of the beholder. plus you shouldn't reroll expensive skins. anything priced 1350+ you dont roll just disenchant and all the lower price skins (which there are more) just reroll this way you get most bang for your buck)

Lord Dusteon1 votes

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that defeats the whole point of a reroll and some people dont like the skins that cost more.

Ok, but lets say someone rerolls Gentleman Cho, Red Baron Corki, and Annie in Wonderland. That's 3 legendary skins (albeit legendary skins with the quality of a 975 RP skin). If they got Swamp Kennen (520 RP recolor, one of the lowest quality skins in the game) they would be pretty pissed as they rerolled ~1800 essence worth and got 220 essence worth. A reroll should not have the chance of multiple high tier skins giving a 1 minute recolor job at the very least.

for example alot of people prefer debonair ezreal over pulsefire (and im one of them) due to it simply having a nicer cleaner model. Plus remember all skins are just for looks... and beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

And Debonair is a 750 RP skin, which with the system I proposed would require rerolling an ultimate + 2 975 RP or higher skins, or 2 legendary + 957 RP or higher skin. The system I propose merely makes it impossible to get 520 RP skins for high essence rerolls (and there are 0 champions where a 520 RP skin is preferred except Yorick + Urgot) and impossible to get 750 RP skins for extremely high essence rerolls.

So yes, people do prefer different skins. But people almost always prefer higher RP skins to lower and almost nobody prefers 520 RP skins to any other skin a champion has. Making hextech crafting not unnecessarily punish rerolls only has a downside if the user for some reason rerolls multiple legendaries to try and get a specific low RP skin.

plus you shouldn't reroll expensive skins. anything priced 1350+ you dont roll just disenchant and all the lower price skins (which there are more) just reroll this way you get most bang for your buck)

So if a player wants to get a decent skin for rerolling several high tier skins they should lose out massively? Maybe the system should actually give some incentive to rerolling a skin instead of a system that promotes never touching any decent RP skin because of how high the chance to lose everything is?

BleedingPluto1 votes

i am not reading that massive fucking page bro over an rng reroll system just use some logic you dont play ap zed and class its as effective do the same with shit like this

Lord Dusteon1 votes

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i am not reading that massive fucking page bro over an rng reroll system just use some logic you dont play ap zed and class its as effective do the same with shit like this

Let me tldr it for you.

Rerolling a high essence amount should bar the lowest skin tier from showing up. So rerolling a 1350 RP essence worth will bar 520 RP skins from being gotten, 1820 RP essence worth would bar 750 RP skins, and the theoretical 3250 RP essence worth would block 975 RP skins. So that someone rerolling a high amount of essence has a guarantee of getting at least some decent value, as 520 RP skins are universally bad.

Also, I have no idea what the bolded part you said even means.

BleedingPluto1 votes

again bro... its an RNG system... your not meant to be able to rig it in some way. and they could do same stuff with champions... "tank ekko is op? ok he is 6300 ip, nunu who no one plays? lets keep him as 450" plus even if you do get a bad skin why didnt you just buy the skin you wanted? unless you grinded all 4 boxes this month for the 1 skin your be able to unlock you really shouldnt be expecting much, if you did it the free way its a free skin if you did it threw RP just buy the skins you want to start with. Also dont forget those shards are RNG to start with it could give you permanently 520 IP skins. and using your system if they made it impossible for 3250 skins to give a 520 they would also make it impossible for 520 to give 3250 and in that case getting a skin of value be even worst because you could throw 3 random skins together plus the is no point rigging an RNG system to always favor you by not making it impossible for a 520 to unlock a 3250.

As for the last part I think its pretty clear... you dont play ap zed or garen... because they have no ap ratios... you dont reroll 3250 skins because it has the same chance as 520.

Reaper Review1 votes

I mean, at least Nightmare Cho is a legacy skin. You could've gotten one of the freely available 390 RP skins, like White Mage Veigar or Golden Alistar.

Lord Dusteon1 votes

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I mean, at least Nightmare Cho is a legacy skin. You could've gotten one of the freely available 390 RP skins, like White Mage Veigar or Golden Alistar.

That's not much of a help. Sure, the result could be very slightly worse, but as least rerolling a legendary's worth of essence gave literally the worst and lowest quality skin for a champion!

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