Anyone else think ashe needs a small buff?
FOr real she like...needs one her damage is kinda bad unless she gets good early game :\
FOr real she like...needs one her damage is kinda bad unless she gets good early game :\
Needs a new passive.
No she doesn't need a buff. She's good for what she does.
Even if she gets shut down in the early game, she can still initiate for the team and peel for another teammate who is carrying. Most ADCs don't have a plan B like that. If a normal ADC gets shut down, he's useless in a team fight. Ashe isn't. That's a strength really and can't be underestimated.
Her E passive also makes her the fastest champ to farm up. If she gets all the CS in a wave, that's an extra caster minion in terms of gold. This means until both ADCs have a full build, if Ashe is doing the same as the other guy, she'll always have a small gold advantage. Maybe that means getting an extra potion or ward. Maybe that means you get your next complete item, and the spike it brings with it, just a little faster. Now if you consider that LOL is about getting the earliest advantage you can and using that to give you pressure you need to win, that's pretty big. Ashe can also check dragon/baron or scout the jungle in a team fight there. That's also big.
While she might not be as intimidating as other ADCs and lacks an escape, Ashe really does have a strong and well rounded kit.
Perma slow, 2x aoe slows, infinite range stun, +gold skill. Her base damage isn't too low, 600 range.
Her early game isn't as bad as you think, besides you need to be focusing on CS and waiting for jungle ganks early game anyway. You will get more gold tan the enemy , meaning a faster BF sword, meaning by the time you SHOULD be engaging, you will be winning the trades.
POking with ur W early will keep the enemy at bay.
Good support picks with ashe include lulu (poke and shield and move speed), leona (for when the enemy tries to get too aggressive early, or when you are ready to wreck them), soraka (flat out sustain which is just amazing with ashe and her passive style) . Honorable mention taric (makes you less squishy, decent sustain, and stun). Blitz and thresh dont offer much other than kill potention when ur ready so I tend not to want them when im ashe.
All in all ashe is a solid pick. If done correctly you will win your lane and possibly snowball, and if thats the case try picking up a hurrican after you get some damage and crit, it really works well on her, one of the few champs it does.
Edit: forgot to mention her weaknesses.
No escape, which is why you wont see much of ashe, and you will see more lucian, corki, trists etc. You could count her ulti and slow as an escape but its used for better things. Slow move speed, generally this isnt too much of a problem due to the slow you have but it still is bothersome and paired with no escape, gap closers are what is gonna make you rage. W and E more or less useless late game, sure you can get vision on baron and dragon when needed with E, but usually if you are having to do that, you will lose baron/dragon anyway because you had no wards, and your team isnt aware. Your W damage does NOT scale into late game, is it because it doesnt crit? I migh't be wrong on that. Def. not the best dueler!
In the end though, Ashe's arrow can make or break a game.
i suppose your right but still to me it just seems that im lacking allot of damage with her but i guess thats ether my rune page or im not building right
If you buff Ashe's damage in any way, she will probably become OP very quickly, simply because of all of the CC / utility she has going for her. They have to keep her damage below average for the role to keep her balanced.
She still has enough damage to be relavent late game, but you generally should pick her for the CC / kiting / team fight winning ultimate.