Carrying is a stupid myth!

Lyless·Sep 26, 2015·4 votes·637 views

There is no carrying in this game. For that to happen you have to have a team that function well. Because I have never seen anyone at any level beat a team 1 vs 5 or 2 vs 5. Because it's never happened. Ever! It's a lie these higher elo douche bags tell constantly. They are good because themselves and their team. It's not all them. They have teams that listen. Carrying is at a lower level is like asking a player to 44 points, 16 rebounds and 10 assists every night. And win the game! And btw, you have crappy team with one star on it!

The logic of people in this forum is seriously warped and twisted to think that it's normal for 1 player to carry a team with no help of any kind a win.

15 Comments

fasegaSep 26, 20155 votes

Carrying doesn't mean you 1v5 literally, it actually mean you will be doing most of the work for your team. Thing like objective control, split pushing, clearing side waves, and picking the best teamfights.
You need you team to still contribute without a doubt. The main point is to not expect your team to be very useful as they are currently in the Elo you are trying to climb out of and will probably play to that level.
Once you stop climbing it probably means you have hit your skill level for now, however will start climbing once your skill level starts to increase.

LylessSep 26, 20151 votes

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Carrying doesn't mean you 1v5 literally, it actually mean you will be doing most of the work for your team. Thing like objective control, split pushing, clearing side waves, and picking the best teamfights.

You need you team to still contribute without a doubt. The main point is to not expect your team to be very useful as they are currently in the Elo you are trying to climb out of and will probably play to that level.

Once you stop climbing it probably means you have hit your skill level for now, however will start climbing once your skill level starts to increase.

When you have team who don't listen, who do not push while you are pushing and who start fights randomly by themselves as well as engage in bad teams fights when you aren't around! Your first point is rendered useless!
I don't have a team. They don't play to any level they play below it, they assist the enemy team by feeding, trolling, afking arguing, not listening, over pushing, not pushing at all, ect........ So, you are 0-2.
No, it means I have team who gives games away and allow the enemy team to get stronger by them going into fight 1 vs 3 to 2 vs 4 and thinking they are going to win. You clearly have no clue what's going on!

PowderkeggSep 26, 20152 votes

https://youtu.be/JN0J-2tzfQA He is a Diamond 1 player with a 90% win rate in bronze, you can carry a game.

LylessSep 26, 20151 votes

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https://youtu.be/JN0J-2tzfQA He is a Diamond 1 player with a 90% win rate in bronze, you can carry a game.

Wrong. He has a functional team and he's playing mid. I don't play mid. If he's left alone, I am sure he does well. You cannot carry a game with a team unless they back you up or hold their own.

PowderkeggSep 26, 20151 votes

He plays all roles and has many videos of him playing those roles in the bronze videos as above; he also has games with feeders, ragers, and afks. Watch his videos.

LylessSep 26, 20151 votes

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He plays all roles and has many videos of him playing those roles in the bronze videos as above; he also has games with feeders, ragers, and afks. Watch his videos.

WHY DONT YOU GET IT? HE HAS FULLY FUNCTIONAL TEAM, NO FEEDERS,AFKS, TROLLS (LIKE I HAD THE LAST GAME)! SO UNLESS HE SHOWS HOW HE OVERCOMES THAT EVERY GAME, THEN I HAVE NO USE FOR HIM.

xFrostKnightxSep 27, 20151 votes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLXxcsWA-yM

He pick's hec top vs a ranged champion. So he's disadvantaged, Fizz ignoring Vi, thinking he can solo carry but he sucks.

2 kills vs their 7 kills by 10m. Bot feeding. Terrible positioning and warding by his team. They lose first dragon. Support warding like crap giving poor vision, only puts down 18-20 wards all game despite being support.

Swains team is raging at him for dying once. Hecarim is carrying his team, every time he's not there, his team feeds. When he's there he gets them kills easily despite his team being behind. The whole game, 90% of his teams kills is all him. With fizz/ADC stealing his kills by last hitting. They start following him everywhere because they know he's the only reason they haven't lost yet.

21:10 they try to focus him and all die. He win's the game and watching the game from he start, you can see he lets his team have kills to get fed even if he does 99% of the damage. Two fed champions is better than 1 fed champion.

23:50 The enemy starts running away from him, not his team. The enemy always wins against his team 4v4 or 3v4. 26:15 His team decides to dive and almost dies, but because he gave Fizz kills, Fizz despite being a shit player still manages 4 kills.

The whole game, even when he feeds them. His team still plays like crap and comes close to dying heaps, but live when the enemy starts running away from hecarim.

So the game started with,

Bot feeding.
Fizz thinking he can carry but ends up being carried and given free kills by Hecarim
Vi can't gank for shit, but 2v1 she gets her team 1-2 kills.
Enemy got first dragon - The first buff is strong and if you're winning (Which they were) Let's them win harder.

Also on his steam, he has games with Afk/Trolls and verbally abusive players. Which he does not post to YouTube because of the simple fact,

Verbal abuse, their name is showing. Would be name -shaming.
Has won games with 4v5 having an afk/rage quitter on his team. But it's not on his YouTube, he streamed it.
He wont post games if he gets angry in them, Even if he wins. Because it's not the behavior he wants to teach people watching his videos.

I also clicked a random video with a non-popular champion and it had everything you are complaining about in it. If you want to see winning despite afk/ragers/trolls you need to watch his streams.

Only Play DariusSep 26, 20151 votes

You sure about that?

LylessSep 26, 20151 votes

[{quoted}](name=Jelly Mac,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=2MLQErYu,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-09-26T00:40:38.873+0000)

You sure about that?

Show me where any of those 4 beat a team 5 by themselves alone. Little to no help from their teammates. I will wait! Kat is overrated btw.

Earl EulrichSep 26, 20151 votes

pretty much, though even good functionating teams need people that make plays and calls - still, if both teams are alright the winning team usually has 2-4people activly carrying in their respective roles.

LylessSep 26, 20151 votes

[{quoted}](name=Don Eulrich,realm=EUW,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=2MLQErYu,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2015-09-26T00:48:05.796+0000)

pretty much, though even good functionating teams need people that make plays and calls - still, if both teams are alright the winning team usually has 2-4people activly carrying in their respective roles.

Ha HA. Usually it's just me playing people I have reported or blocked already and yes there are way more than one or two!

Earl EulrichSep 26, 20151 votes

Ha HA. Usually it's just me playing people I have reported or blocked already

If you want to carry the game and win the most important thing you´ll have to do is create a good atmosphere within the team. Just be polite and apply to common sense. If you give up on your teammates it´s most of the times already a lost game.

LylessSep 26, 20151 votes

[{quoted}](name=Don Eulrich,realm=EUW,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=2MLQErYu,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2015-09-26T01:01:04.923+0000)

If you want to carry the game and win the most important thing you´ll have to do is create a good atmosphere within the team. Just be polite and apply to common sense. If you give up on your teammates it´s most of the times already a lost game.

dude. They don't respond to anything. All they do is rage, fight or say nothing. I don't think you quite get it! You can't be nice or mean to people who don't say anything!

Earl EulrichSep 26, 20151 votes

well - sometimes it can be a lot of work andd it´s the main reason i don´t really play SoloQ - 70% of the skill needed to win is psychology if you don´t luck out with your mates:

1st: greet your team, make sure everyone talks about who wants to play what and be prepered to fill to make sure the atmosphere starts out good 2nd: if someone makes a somewhat good play compliment him 3rd: never bash on someone that makes a mistake, he´ll only get nervous or angry - just assure him your still in the game and ready for the next round 4th: if someone gets angry try to reassure everyone else and either get the one back on track or keep the spirit of everyone else high enough to carry through, depending on the situation 5th: always talk about things "we" as a unit would/should/could do, never use "i" or "you", that way everyone can identify with the thought and nobody can feel like he´s made responsible or gets singled out 6th: try to take responsibility and make good calls if you think you´re up to it, if you know what you´re doing and get at least the players near you to follow soon everyone will fall in if you find some success

...or just don´t play SoloQ, find sth you enjoy (for me mostly 3v3 and arams, as we´re seldomly enough for 5v5) or find another game

LylessSep 26, 20151 votes

[{quoted}](name=Don Eulrich,realm=EUW,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=2MLQErYu,comment-id=00020000000000000000,timestamp=2015-09-26T02:04:48.073+0000)

well - sometimes it can be a lot of work andd it´s the main reason i don´t really play SoloQ - 70% of the skill needed to win is psychology if you don´t luck out with your mates:

1st: greet your team, make sure everyone talks about who wants to play what and be prepered to fill to make sure the atmosphere starts out good 2nd: if someone makes a somewhat good play compliment him 3rd: never bash on someone that makes a mistake, he´ll only get nervous or angry - just assure him your still in the game and ready for the next round 4th: if someone gets angry try to reassure everyone else and either get the one back on track or keep the spirit of everyone else high enough to carry through, depending on the situation 5th: always talk about things "we" as a unit would/should/could do, never use "i" or "you", that way everyone can identify with the thought and nobody can feel like he´s made responsible or gets singled out 6th: try to take responsibility and make good calls if you think you´re up to it, if you know what you´re doing and get at least the players near you to follow soon everyone will fall in if you find some success

...or just don´t play SoloQ, find sth you enjoy (for me mostly 3v3 and arams, as we´re seldomly enough for 5v5) or find another game

All that has been tried and has failed.