To all my bronze and Silver junglers out there....and other lanes if you will......

Borkahn··1 votes·627 views
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When behind, especially in the jungle, I strongly advise building some armor or mr to counter the fed person on the other team. Take for instance the Rengar above. No reason he should be 2-6, I think he was, and jumping into a fed Aatrox , Ashe , and Jax. He seemed so angry at the end when I was trying to advise him nicely for his next game that if behind he should build a bit of resistance. Rengar has enough early game damage that a completed jungle item can suffice for one resistance item. Shoot, as you can see, I, the Aatrox , built item 3260 as soon as I saw the Vayne kill both Ashe and Thresh . Got to keep situational awareness about ya. What's worse is he kept building damage even though he ended up being 3-10 I think he was? He was worthless in teamfights because a couple of Ashe autos and he was gone, and that was if noone else touched him. I am thankful for this win but I feel that we may have some junglers in the silver and bronze elo who do not understand how a resistance item in place of a damage item can drastically change the game.

TL;DR Pay attention to the game and buy items accordingly. Don't buy the same thing every time. Be opening to people willing to legitimately give you a helping hand.

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kanacho2 votes

It has been rare in the past that I got junglers whose first goal was even to ASSIST the team, when that's almost 90% of what junglers do (either with objective control/ganking, etc...), but rather than trying to help the people who need it, they just "Do what they want" even if it's stupid to make the choices they do, especially in a ranked game... I recently had a jungler who did a PHENOMENAL Job as jungler, who not only controlled objectives well, but completely snowballed my lane when i was doing poorly (with good ganks) because of a forced disconnect. We totally stomped and won the game as a result.

The thing was, he was BRONZE, yet he did an AMAZING job, something comparable to gold-plat. I would say. He just made smart plays, and played with the right mindset (to help the team do well), and even with making small mistakes, his contribution FAR outweighed any mistakes he made and we, like i said earlier, STOMPED that game.

Itemization is important, but junglers actually knowing and doing their job is very important too.

Borkahn1 votes

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It has been rare in the past that I got junglers whose first goal was even to ASSIST the team, when that's almost 90% of what junglers do (either with objective control/ganking, etc...), but rather than trying to help the people who need it, they just "Do what they want" even if it's stupid to make the choices they do, especially in a ranked game... I recently had a jungler who did a PHENOMENAL Job as jungler, who not only controlled objectives well, but completely snowballed my lane when i was doing poorly (with good ganks) because of a forced disconnect. We totally stomped and won the game as a result.

The thing was, he was BRONZE, yet he did an AMAZING job, something comparable to gold-plat. I would say. He just made smart plays, and played with the right mindset (to help the team do well), and even with making small mistakes, his contribution FAR outweighed any mistakes he made and we, like i said earlier, STOMPED that game.

Itemization is important, but junglers actually knowing and doing their job is very important too.

Itemization, I would argue, falls into knowing and doing your job. If I come gank your lane and I have been behind, and I lack any type of resistance. What is to stop a Katarina or Irelia , or even still further a Jinx from killing not only me but you as well. He ganked often. I ganked often. The problem is I had resistances to both sustain damage and be able to retreat if we had a failed gank. Where as he had to all in everything and hope and pray that we misclicked something. As for dragon control.....he couldn't. Bot snowballed so hard and mid kept Malzahar busy that I literally never would have had to summoner 11 . We controlled it that well. I believe he could have made a hell of a lot more impact with a simple item 1029 early on. What is 15 armor? It is the difference between "Hey I just got a kill and managed to escape" versus" oh shit, I just got gangbanged and fed even more." Itemization falls into the role of a jungle. Without situational awareness and the ability to adjust to that, you have nothing.

kanacho1 votes

The jungler should have ganked (part of a jungler's job) to stop them from snowballing.

Understanding and implementing itemization is a key Part of the game for ALL ROLES, and I would say it falls under understanding the game and strategizing rather than being apart of the role itself. Basically it's part of learning to play League of Legends, not just learning to play a specific role better.

Either way itemization is important, and I'm not discounting that, I'm just saying itemization is only PART of the story, and if the jungler does their job well enough, it shouldn't fall to the point to where a bruiser or assassin jungle like Rengar or Yi have to STRICTLY build armor or MR just to survive, simply because it's not the most effective choice (and I know that's not what your saying), but my point is that a jungler doing a good job at their role can avoid a lot of the hardship unless someone is really doing EXTREMELY bad or intentionally feeding/trolling or something.

Borkahn1 votes

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The jungler should have ganked (part of a jungler's job) to stop them from snowballing.

Understanding and implementing itemization is a key Part of the game for ALL ROLES, and I would say it falls under understanding the game and strategizing rather than being apart of the role itself. Basically it's part of learning to play League of Legends, not just learning to play a specific role better.

Either way itemization is important, and I'm not discounting that, I'm just saying itemization is only PART of the story, and if the jungler does their job well enough, it shouldn't fall to the point to where a bruiser or assassin jungle like Rengar or Yi have to STRICTLY build armor or MR just to survive, simply because it's not the most effective choice (and I know that's not what your saying), but my point is that a jungler doing a good job at their role can avoid a lot of the hardship unless someone is really doing EXTREMELY bad or intentionally feeding/trolling or something.

We all have bad games though. I personally rock with Nocturne in the jungle. He is my best. But I have screwed up simple ganks that would have been a walk in the park in other games I played. The difference is that I built the resistance and came back to right the wrong. HE came back to right the wrong. He just came with more damage but not as much as he gave to the adc. Which in turn, snowballs harder. His biggest downfall was the failure to build resistance. Which if memory serves, Rengar and Khazix both end up doing that anyways

kanacho1 votes

Yeah and when I'm in bad matchups like Akali (me playing her) vs Mordekaiser, I just play safe and build right by picking up something like QSS (amazing item) and/or zhonyas. You can fix a lot of problems with itemization, but the other part of that is knowing how to use those items, and making the right calls AFTER you made mistakes or have bad match-ups or something.

ALL League players should learn to itemize right, but they also need to know how to make up for mistakes and play their roles right (Rather then just not ganking at all, or feeding even more and making even more careless plays when they are already doing bad).

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