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The problem with Yoricks ult

DingleNutsMcGee·9/6/2016, 10:18:17 PM·26 votes·1,563 views

Something about new Yorick's ult bothers the living hell out of me. Riot claims its one of the smartest AI's they've ever made in game. From what I've seen so far, that isnt saying much. Numerous numerous times in the gameplays that i've watched, Ive seen his ult lady take turret aggro in situations where it makes no sense. Example....she'll be walking down the lane with a wave, and instead of stopping for 1-2sec to let the minions go in front of her, she keeps on going and walks into turret range tanking the turret until she dies in a couple seconds. Seems like a complete and utter waste to me since you cant control her to move her away from the turret to drop the aggro. For an ultimate ability shes pretty damn stupid as an AI. If she were a non-ultimate ability then i could understand her being stupid, but shes not. Its almost a waste of your time to use her for pushing down turrets cuz she will just walk in, take aggro, and die 3 sec later. If she could detect turrets and turret aggro then she would be a decent ultimate. But until then its a pretty bad ult for what its intended to be

15 Comments

CrazFight 9/6/2016, 10:26:21 PM23 votes

"Best AI" - Looks at riots other AI, realizes that i shouldn't expect much.

Blue Moon Wolf9/7/2016, 9:47:39 AM3 votes

I just realized Yorick is going to be one of the few champs that can get a buff from just improving the AI's intelligence on his ult. Kind of interesting when you think about it. Imagine seeing that in the patch notes.

Lately Yorick has been seeing some trouble keeping up in late game, so we improved the AI of his Lady of the mist.

Lady of the Mist- now moves away from turret when aggro is on her/ is about to switch to her.

ZT Xperimentor9/6/2016, 10:32:49 PM1 votes

Agreed; and from what I've seen she doesn't even leash to yorick either, as soon as she engages any enemy in lane, she just shoves without him even if he leaves the lane. Though he gets gold for what she kills, it looks more frustrating to yorick since he looses the ability to manage his map pressure. Another case of 'painful to play as or against depending on design'.

JVP159/7/2016, 3:30:57 AM1 votes

Well, she does take turret aggro naturally, but kinda like a Cannon Minion where the original minion tanking has to die first, so I guess it would keep her alive just a bit longer but not by much.

underscores2229/7/2016, 7:07:42 AM1 votes

Rioters mentioned this in another thread, but while the Mist Lady is "smarter" than other pet AI, she is not as smart as, say, Co-op Bot AI. Basically, she is more inclined to help Yorik out, but doesn't really "pay attention" the way a player would (such as waiting for minions before going in turret range) They also mentioned they left her AI somewhat limited to ensure she would eventually die.

Also, turret aggro goes super/seige > Mist walkers > Mist Lady > normal minions, so sometimes she will take turret hits anyway

BobaFlautist9/7/2016, 4:56:19 PM1 votes

What if she gets tilted and goes into "Run it down mid" mode (by approaching a lane) but then you e a nearby jungle camp or enemy champion in the jungle within her aggro range? Does she stop running it down mid?