There is no hope!

Lyless·Oct 6, 2015·2 votes·503 views

There is no way out of elo-hell! Once you are trapped, just learn to accept it. There is no way out. If you win 3 straight games it won't matter you will lose 3 games soon. No hope at all!

25 Comments

TeemoJenkinsOct 6, 20154 votes

Support main that doesn't ward http://wardscore.loltools.net/?name=Lyless&region=na absolutely, you're where you belong.

LylessOct 6, 20151 votes

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Support main that doesn't ward http://wardscore.loltools.net/?name=Lyless&region=na absolutely, you're where you belong.

I am a AP Soraka, so you are wrong. Again!

DaenOct 6, 20151 votes

I am better they are it's plain to see by those who aren't bias or the enemy

> Mains support and wards less than 98% of NA support players (warding being one of the primary duties of that role)

"Maybe you should ward" - Random citizen

you are wrong

I mean...I don't mean to be rude here, but I think it's pretty clear why you are stuck in Bronze V. It is impossible (seriously, impossible) to climb the ladder unless you're able to take critique, especially your own, and use it to improve yourself.

I am constantly re-evaluating my own play to try and identify situations where I make mistakes or build really dumb items, and I feel like this really helps me gain a better understanding of the game.

TeemoJenkinsOct 6, 20153 votes

Just another "Woe is me" thread from Lyless folks... downvote and move along. Don't bother with advice, he'll throw it back in your face, don't try to help, he'll berate you for it. Just look at his past threads for all the evidence you need.

LylessOct 6, 20151 votes

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Just another "Woe is me" thread from Lyless folks... downvote and move along. Don't bother with advice, he'll throw it back in your face, don't try to help, he'll berate you for it. Just look at his past threads for all the evidence you need.

There is no advice for getting screwed over constantly by bad players and troll players and people who give up in less than 10 mins. What advice do you have for that?

TreeofwarOct 6, 20151 votes

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There is no advice for getting screwed over constantly by bad players and troll players and people who give up in less than 10 mins. What advice do you have for that?

how about this either play the game and shut up or just uninstall because we really dont care if you are bronze 5 and most people right now want to keep you there because of your attitude

LylessOct 6, 20151 votes

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how about this either play the game and shut up or just uninstall because we really dont care if you are bronze 5 and most people right now want to keep you there because of your attitude

Why should I do anything you want? You are the enemy. I am telling things that are happening, first hand accounts and you have the nerve to deny them based on your guess of what's happening.

What kind of attitude am I suppose to have when I keep getting screwed over every game? Being Happy about this wouldn't change the result and the work I put into this to get better and I have. I can carry games but it doesn't matter I am paired with such unskilled people it doesn't matter what I do.

SmokedAlmondsOct 6, 20153 votes

I'm curious what makes you think you are so much better than those in your games.

I watched a couple of your games and you don't really stand out from them. Everyone is basically wondering around aimlessly. Your scores are marginally better I suppose but that is because you play soraka and don't get very involved in fights. You regularly have noticeably long pauses between your actions. You get caught while running away because you just like stop moving for a second. Playing as passive as you are is what I would say is the biggest cause of your problem. You add like 0 pressure in fights. Even though you are soraka and sorta technically can function hiding a mile behind your team, its just ineffective. The opposing teams spend 0 effort to consider you, because they don't have to. So your team mates get focused more.

This is not something I normally do but how persistent you are that it is everyone else made me curious.

LylessOct 6, 20151 votes

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I'm curious what makes you think you are so much better than those in your games.

I watched a couple of your games and you don't really stand out from them. Everyone is basically wondering around aimlessly. Your scores are marginally better I suppose but that is because you play soraka and don't get very involved in fights. You regularly have noticeably long pauses between your actions. You get caught while running away because you just like stop moving for a second. Playing as passive as you are is what I would say is the biggest cause of your problem. You add like 0 pressure in fights. Even though you are soraka and sorta technically can function hiding a mile behind your team, its just ineffective. The opposing teams spend 0 effort to consider you, because they don't have to. So your team mates get focused more.

This is not something I normally do but how persistent you are that it is everyone else made me curious.

you have no clue about what you are saying. I have do nearly everything whether I am jug or supp. I am better they are it's plain to see by those who aren't bias or the enemy which is what you are.

SmokedAlmondsOct 6, 20151 votes

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you have no clue about what you are saying. I have do nearly everything whether I am jug or supp. I am better they are it's plain to see by those who aren't bias or the enemy which is what you are.

What bias do I have against you? I have nothing invested in this. If you are good or bad it makes no difference to me. You are the one bias towards yourself, which is to be expected. Basically everyone is.

You were soraka in every game I watched so I can't comment on your jungling, but really most of the things I was noticing weren't really champion related so I suspect you have many of the same issues on other champions. If you think you were doing "nearly everything" as soraka then you are just plain wrong. You stand a mile back and heal and move up slightly to starfall on CD basically. Thats it. In one of the games you were piling on trist bombs like they thought they heal you or something. But really its because you didn't notice them. I don't think I saw a single ult for anyone that wasn't on your screen and drop very few wards so obviously there isn't much map awareness there either.

Movement was the biggest thing I noticed though. You stand around a lot and regularly have half second+ pauses before you cast things. You run up to starcall stand for 1 sec then cast it. I saw several instances where you should have escaped but died just because you decided to serpentine for no reason or just completely stopped running for a second and got caught.

LylessOct 6, 20151 votes

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What bias do I have against you? I have nothing invested in this. If you are good or bad it makes no difference to me. You are the one bias towards yourself, which is to be expected. Basically everyone is.

You were soraka in every game I watched so I can't comment on your jungling, but really most of the things I was noticing weren't really champion related so I suspect you have many of the same issues on other champions. If you think you were doing "nearly everything" as soraka then you are just plain wrong. You stand a mile back and heal and move up slightly to starfall on CD basically. Thats it. In one of the games you were piling on trist bombs like they thought they heal you or something. But really its because you didn't notice them. I don't think I saw a single ult for anyone that wasn't on your screen and drop very few wards so obviously there isn't much map awareness there either.

Movement was the biggest thing I noticed though. You stand around a lot and regularly have half second+ pauses before you cast things. You run up to starcall stand for 1 sec then cast it. I saw several instances where you should have escaped but died just because you decided to serpentine for no reason or just completely stopped running for a second and got caught.

so you purpose picked out one bad game. How about you look at my last game on won where I did well? Instead of just looking at the worse one.

SmokedAlmondsOct 6, 20151 votes

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so you purpose picked out one bad game. How about you look at my last game on won where I did well? Instead of just looking at the worse one.

Most of what I said was from a game you won since it was the last one I watched. I specifically picked one that you won and based on your score seemed like you did well.

I donno exactly how op.gg's replay system works, but its not available for your last game or I would.

Reynard the ƒoxOct 6, 20152 votes

buy an elo boost

TreeofwarOct 6, 20152 votes

not true my friend went from bronze 3 to gold 5 and another one went from silver 5 to gold 5 so you just have to get better. There is not such thing as elo hell.

LylessOct 6, 20153 votes

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not true my friend went from bronze 3 to gold 5 and another one went from silver 5 to gold 5 so you just have to get better. There is not such thing as elo hell.

Only those who got out with a lot of help, got out. And a lot of luck. There is no way out!

TreeofwarOct 6, 20151 votes

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Only those who got out with a lot of help, got out. And a lot of luck. There is no way out!

not true they did it all on their own and with skill not luck skill. If you are stuck in bronze 5 you most likely deserve to be there.

LylessOct 6, 20151 votes

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not true they did it all on their own and with skill not luck skill. If you are stuck in bronze 5 you most likely deserve to be there.

Nope last three games the same thing happened. Bad trolling ADC or top or both. Most likely means you don't know. I wish t here was way I could show that last game. None of this my fault.

alasarcherOct 6, 20151 votes

There is no elo hell, only players that think they are more skilled than they actually are

LylessOct 6, 20151 votes

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There is no elo hell, only players that think they are more skilled than they actually are

You are lying. Three minutes into my last game, what happens the adc says "I am feeding gg". Explain that? Elo Hell exists all right. I am better player than most Bronze but when bot lane gives game away in less than 10 mins. No one can overcome that.

TreeofwarOct 6, 20151 votes

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You are lying. Three minutes into my last game, what happens the adc says "I am feeding gg". Explain that? Elo Hell exists all right. I am better player than most Bronze but when bot lane gives game away in less than 10 mins. No one can overcome that.

there are trolls out there in every elo just because you got one in bronze 5 does not mean its elo hell. You have posted on the boards many times about how you are stuck in bronze 5 what do you want riot to do just give you diamond because you feel as if you deserve it? they cant make match making any better. You get put with random people to play with some get lucky and get smurf some dont and get trolls but if you give up in the middle of the game you are just as good as a troll.

LylessOct 6, 20151 votes

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there are trolls out there in every elo just because you got one in bronze 5 does not mean its elo hell. You have posted on the boards many times about how you are stuck in bronze 5 what do you want riot to do just give you diamond because you feel as if you deserve it? they cant make match making any better. You get put with random people to play with some get lucky and get smurf some dont and get trolls but if you give up in the middle of the game you are just as good as a troll.

One? I have too many count! 85% of the games I play have trolls. This is elo hell! You aren't in it. So oof course you would deny it. I am better than this Bronze crap, but if you pair anyone with the teams I get they will lose. It doesn't matter who they are.

TreeofwarOct 6, 20151 votes

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One? I have too many count! 85% of the games I play have trolls. This is elo hell! You aren't in it. So oof course you would deny it. I am better than this Bronze crap, but if you pair anyone with the teams I get they will lose. It doesn't matter who they are.

i am going to tell you something everyone is thinking right now. ok are you ready? no one cares... like we dont care if you are in elo hell or not.

LylessOct 6, 20151 votes

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i am going to tell you something everyone is thinking right now. ok are you ready? no one cares... like we dont care if you are in elo hell or not.

I don't care opinion either! Don't comment then!

LylessOct 6, 20151 votes