Interesting Vel'Koz/Yasuo Interaction

revliledpembroke··7 votes·1,530 views

Now, I don't know if this is a bug or not, (which is why this is in Miscellaneous) but I used my Void Rift today and sent it towards Yasuo and he blocked it with his Windwall. How does an ability where I am opening a cavern in the ground get blocked by an aboveground wall of wind? I know it blocks projectiles, so I'm not upset about him blocking my Q with it, but thematically, how does a cavern being blocked by wind make any sense?

20 Comments

Gunpoint3 votes

I don't know if this is a bug or not, but Yasuo is still a champion. Any word on when this is getting fixed?

Fried Noob2 votes

Themeatically, it makes no sense. However, Vel'koz's W is probably programmed as a projectile since the opening chasm has a travel time, which would cause it to be blocked.

Mathbalnase2 votes

thematics are bad for game balance ignore them

OJ1911 votes

put it in report a bug, it may or may not get fixed but it's almost certainly just an oversight with how velkoz W is coded.

Shit happens when you make an ability that has such wide spread ability interactions lol.

Matthias91194 votes

This has been pointed out since Yasuo launched and is definitely not a bug.

League has lots of things that don't make sense "thematically". Why do fire spells hurt Brand? Why do abilities that are clearly "on the ground" or "underground" affect champions like Anivia or Kayle? Why can you "bleed" Blitzcrank or Malphite or Vladimir? Why can't massive aoe conflagrations of fire/magic, homing missiles, etc. hit a fish standing on a pole? How do ranged champions deal more damage with a gun/bow/whatever by holding a sword in their invisible backpack?

OJ1913 votes

{quoted}

This has been pointed out since Yasuo launched and is definitely not a bug.

League has lots of things that don't make sense "thematically". Why do fire spells hurt Brand? Why do abilities that are clearly "on the ground" or "underground" affect champions like Anivia or Kayle? Why can you "bleed" Blitzcrank or Malphite or Vladimir? Why can't massive aoe conflagrations of fire/magic, homing missiles, etc. hit a fish standing on a pole? How do ranged champions deal more damage with a gun/bow/whatever by holding a sword in their invisible backpack?

mechanically it is working as intended, thematically it is not. Sadly riot didn't catch all of them when making yasuo

Matthias91192 votes

If it's "working as intended" then they DID catch it.

They don't balance around thematic stuff. It would get really silly if they did.

OJ1911 votes

{quoted}

If it's "working as intended" then they DID catch it.

They don't balance around thematic stuff. It would get really silly if they did.

No it's mechanically working as intended because vel'koz W is coded as a projectile, not because it is actually intended by design to get blocked.

at least so far as I know, if you have a riot comment somewhere proving otherwise feel free to post it.

Matthias91192 votes

If they didn't want it to be a projectile they would make it not be a projectile anymore. Clearly they're okay with it being stopped by Wind Wall and Braum's shield; I've seen this pointed out before and it's been like this for a long time. Other comparable abilities (such as Braum's ult) behave similarly and also have not been changed.

OJ1911 votes

{quoted}

If they didn't want it to be a projectile they would make it not be a projectile anymore. Clearly they're okay with it being stopped by Wind Wall and Braum's shield; I've seen this pointed out before and it's been like this for a long time. Other comparable abilities (such as Braum's ult) behave similarly and also have not been changed.

right, because there have been SOOOOOOOOO many times where Riot has actually taken the time to change individual niche cases like those two

owait

Jubbinaut1 votes

Considering how easy it would be to turn the "projectile" setting to "not," I'm not sure that argument really counts for much. I mean, sure there's been plenty of times when some weird complicated interactions bugged out and took forever to fix, but this isn't really a weird complicated interaction. It's just a single setting that would need adjustment.

revliledpembroke1 votes

Oh, believe me, I've had issues with why a bird(Anivia) or a guy flying a ROFLCopter(Corki) would fly so low and allow themselves to be damaged by guys swinging axes, swords, or cleavers (MUNDO!). I saw someone ask on a board somewhere if ignite could heal Brand, and a red commented and said that'd be great or something like that. Don't have the link for you at the moment. Also, why doesn't Nami put summoner 14 or Brand's burn out? Would that mean that a Nami Tidal Wave would one hit Brand because she put out his fire? Could Lissandra one hit Brand because he was imprisoned in ice for millennia and Liss has her ice prison?

This particular case just struck me because I saw no particular reason for why it should be. I mean, Malz opens a portal to the Void, but HIS portal isn't blocked by Yasuo, but Vel's is.

Centuros1 votes

Vel probably tosses a projectile (wave of energy, etc) that causes the rift, that can be blocked.

Wheatloaf1 votes

Wind Wall blocks Braum's Ultimate, too.

CaptainTatertits1 votes

I had an interesting Azir-Mundo interaction the other day.

We were about to win, I tanked for the last two turrets while the ADC took them down. My ult is almost over, so I start walking away to get out of turret range again... then my Azir pushes an enemy away from them (but towards nexus), and somehow locks me between his wall and the nexus wings, trapping me while my fatass wiggles desperately to escape. Ult having worn off, I die :(

I have a vid of it somewhere if someone would like me to upload it.

OJ1912 votes

[{quoted}](name=Cpt Lemmiwinks,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=0wJZEfw5,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2015-03-05T05:49:22.983+0000)

I had an interesting Azir-Mundo interaction the other day.

We were about to win, I tanked for the last two turrets while the ADC took them down. My ult is almost over, so I start walking away to get out of turret range again... then my Azir pushes an enemy away from them (but towards nexus), and somehow locks me between his wall and the nexus wings, trapping me while my fatass wiggles desperately to escape. Ult having worn off, I die :(

I have a vid of it somewhere if someone would like me to upload it.

anivia wall can do the same tho its way harder to do and usually they just get pushed through it when you try, since it doesnt have the pushingeffect

Verandure2 votes

That'd be a bug. Azir's ult doesn't move allied champs. Just gives them a ms boost.

Fredart1 votes

If that should get through then shouldn't Janna's whirlwind cancel out the wind wall since they share the same element?

Velkoz Reloaded1 votes

I mean Vel'koz's auto attacks and ult already go through so, personally, I don't mind if W is blocked...

RamboDash151 votes

Stuff like Wind Wall and Unbreakable also stop Maokai Sapling Toss from flying the full length. It's just the way Riot has chosen things to work.

More from [ARCHIVED] Miscellaneous

More by revliledpembroke