Ever since the end of season 3 ive seen way more feeders and afkers but i expected that during the preseason. Now the new season has started and ive gotten more losses from dcers and loss preventions in 2 weeks then i did the whole season 3. Is their any timeline when they will be fixed for more then 2 days so i know i can go into a game without worrying about some random lag or my teammates lagging out for no reason?
8BitVillain13 votes:/ I see a lot of people complaining right now, and I don't blame you guys. But multiple games for the past month have been dealing with DDOS attacks continuously. All the money in the world can't change the fact that no one could be prepared for this. There techniques change all the time with how they try to attack. I would be pretty certain that this is one of those new techniques. So people, give riot some patients and they should be able to fix the attack. Hell, they might be able to trace the guy and get some vengeance, that would be pretty nice ^-^
Sir ArmaMalum4 votesPretty much this, for more info Riot Gradius responded not on today's issues but most of last week's here, which can easily sepculated to be the same problems we're dealing with now.
A tl;dr is that it's not even Riot being targeted directly and maybe not even intentionally. Major network hubs and other higher traffic areas are getting gummed up. This is why in laggy games some are fine and others are nowhere near ok, some go through these backed up hubs and others go through clear ones.
xZrathX2 votesWrong, they can get different servers that can't be DDOS attacked. See why WoW does not get DDOSed, they have the good servers. I don't remember what it's called but, there is things they can do 2 stop the attacks. That will take time tho to change servers and all that if they were to do that.
BootyLookinRipe5 votesIt's called a DDOS people..
Edit: It literally isn't Riot's fault. They have programs protecting their servers from being hacked but that program can not protect itself.
Expeda1 votesIts DerpTroll that is DDOSing them they have even gotten riot employees arrested even
Within16Letters1 votesSource? How could that even happen.
Sir ArmaMalum1 voteshttp://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=45264888#post45264888
It's not known is it's Derptrolling or just some other asshat, and it's not directed at Riot itself, but network hubs and major traffic areas for NA are getting gummed up. You don't see normal services disrupted but League is such a high traffic service that it's getting screwed.
As for Riot employees getting arrested I have not a heard anything of the sort at all. And seeing as the attacks are directed towards ISP's and hubs I highly doubt anyone from Riot had anything to do with that.
Within16Letters1 votesWhen I asked how could that even happen, I was referring to rioters being arrested by some DDoS'ers. I know how DDoS'ing works but getting some one arrested is not likely imo.
Sir ArmaMalum1 votesYeah sorry, I've been spamming what DDoS exactly is too many times today....reflex reply, my bad.
And I've been looking, I can't find anything about Riot employees being involved anywhere. Might be a bit early but I'm calling bullcrap.
xZrathX2 votesRiot has the wrong servers so, kinda is but, kinda is not at the same time. They can do things. All you ppl need to wake up, and just start blaming rIOT ALREADY I always stick up for them but, there is things they can do, and they have yet to tell us if they are goiing 2 do these things so, blame them till they talk ab out it at elast.
my keyborad all fuked yup srrry for the typing look lika 8 year old.
AbiwonKenabi2 votesLOL the typos!
Anyways, I think there ARE things that can be done, so hopefully Riot will learn their lesson and take steps to prevent this in the future. They are usually pretty good about not making the same mistake twice.
I just hate when people assume Riot like doesn't care. It's not even that, it was probably just an oversight. They care just as much as we do, and are doing everything they can to fix it.
xZrathX1 votes:P my keyboard is screwed up REALLY BAD! I gotta get a new one today.
I know Riot cares tho, for sure. I love Riot myself, LoL is my fav game, Maybe of all time. I have NEVER put money into a F2P game b4 LoL. I have put a lot of money into it 2 at this point :) Happy I have!
I just believe that Riot can do a little more to at least ease our minds. I would just love a REAL update on what's going on, and what they're going to do 2 fix it.
uncrovvned KlNGS5 votesRITO PLS
YesImBuff5 votesAn unknown number of unknown people of various ages with an unknown amount of resources have been executing DDoS attacks on League of Legends servers.
For brevity - a DDoS attack is, in its most simplified form; a massive amount of ping requests made to a server. I'm talking inexplicably large numbers of requests made. This is also why the client says "Over 20000" players are waiting in the queue.
These people send requests to log-in at such great volume and rate that servers are backlogged and eventually flooded with fake 'requests' to play LoL.
"Why do they do that?", you might ask...
They are anonymous. They are legion.
These kinds of people are beyond the scope of morals and reason; they are afflicted with a cognitive dissonance somehow related to a disagreement with a number of societal institutions. Among them are big businesses with a profit motive, a group of whom Riot Games is a part of.
Not every participant is truly anonymous. But when enough people convince themselves that they are doing something different, and that something is better...
That's when counterculture becomes a paradigm shift.
dingdongbritches1 votesBest response I've seen to such attacks. It was concise and explained the nature of these log-in queues and problems that the servers are having. Thanks.
lkamak4 votesRight now my whole team is lagging and their team too, we can talk in the chat but we cant move. Riot pleaaase fix this!
PJae4 votesThis is so annoying for real... What is going on the server?
And please replace the characters or letter something required to login here. It took 10 min to find easy one.
RoastPanRavi4 votesRiot I give up.
Calderweiss3 votesDerptrolling is attacking them by uploading 400gb a second in malicious traffic to their data centers.
They have to deal with that.
Yeah
Pryotra2 votesYeah. To give you an idea, in 3 seconds that is a terrabyte.
There isn't a network alive today that can survive that, and the fact that no company like Riot, Blizzard, EA, even Cloudfail has their anus prepared kinda shows that it isn't something you can just stop. That, on top of the fact that they aren't usually hit directly, but rather in such a manner that the providers inbetween go down. This shows that even the ISPs struggle with this much traffic in a single route.
With the numbers at play here, I suspect an ISP has been compromised. If not, then they must have the largest botnet in existance. That much traffic doesn't just happen, nor does one stumble upon that amount of bandwidth to even attempt these sort of attacks.
Calderweiss1 votesYeah, ISPs were compromised. Riot is actually working alongside the service providers on this one.
ByeByeworld2 votesservers are burning
Travaran2 votesDDOS attacks? I'm not sure what that is. If they have a bug or something I understand but that's not the problem, the problem is them letting people continue playing instead of shutting down for awhile and fixing it, I'd rather not be able to play for a few days then continuously be kicked from matches and have terrible lag.
Calderweiss2 votesIt is on and off. It's very complicated to fix, but they are keeping players updated on their every move on devtracker on the other forums.
They can't predict when it is going to happen, because the DDOSER only announces who he is targeting, he doesn't always say when.
He's done this to Blizzard, EA, etc, who all had the same problems, and they have had a LOT longer to work on and protect their servers.
Sir ArmaMalum3 votesDDoS attacks are Distributed Denial of Service attacks. In it's simplest incarnation it is pinging a single site several hundred times a second to overload the traffic in the site. What's going on here is that the DDoS attacks are targeting network hubs and other high traffic 'behind the scenes' areas in the NA general internet network. League being the Internet Titan it is today flops very easily if hubs like this are swept out from under them. It won't matter if League shuts down it's servers or not, because it's not the servers that are the problem but the routes leading to them getting gummed up. And if they're shut down the DDoS attackers will just move on to another area until they're back up. This won't be truly over until the attackers are located and their hardware is shut down.
Riot Gradius has already declared they are "working with the internet security industry as a whole" to accomplish this.
Travaran1 votesThanks for the info. I'm sure that Riot is trying to fix whatever the problem is but it doesn't excuse their retarded methods of dealing with this, first off they like never talk about when how or if this thing is going to be fixed so we're in the dark the hole time, the best we get is a stupid ass post from them saying they're working on it witch means crap to us. Obviously whatever the problem is exactly it sucks and I know they need to fix it but they should prepare for this sort of thing, did they not think stuff like this was going to happen? please Riot, shut down the game for awhile to COMPLETELY FIXT THIS not a temporary patch or whatever but completely, Id want bullshit penalties on my account because YOUR system has a problem.
Sir ArmaMalum1 votesI don't think you quite get the problem that indirect DDoS causes. Here is a post I did on the whole thing to explain.
As for Riot responding, they do, but there's a reason why the service status forums are all closed threads. Do you think the sommunity as a whole will say "thank you for the info, good luck!"? No, they'll scream "fix it!" or constantly question why they aren't using x method for y problem. They aren't putting you in the dark, but if you want answers you're gonna have to look around, because they are not going to be too public on their current issues due to the negative and most importantly not helpful reactions. I think we can all trust them to fix it as fast as they can seeing as LoL is Riot's only game and literally everything they have.
Fidell Kashflow1 votesWhat does DDOS even think it's accomplishing by messing with the servers? They are basically just rude trolls who are good at hacking.
Within16Letters2 votesDDoS is not hacking.
ninjanomikz2 votesIf you think of it DDOS accomplishes some pretty good things, mostly for rival companies. Let's say valve (dota 2) or high rez studios (smite) or even a non moba game realise that they are behind LoL in numbers so they pay someone outside their company to figure out how to DDOS their servers, everyone has a bad time playing LoL and then they start raging and threatening to leave the game. Now as we know most of these threats are empty but there are the odd few who are like, you know what? Stuff this game I'm not playing anymore. I can speak from experience, my mate did exactly that during season 2 when this also happened and then he switched to HoN and now DotA 2. I'm not saying that is what is happening but I can definitely think of reasons for someone to want to do it besides just trolling.
IronLeaguePro1 votesSo riot is under attack again? Why can't they protect themselves i personally have paid riot more money than effin netflix a month yet they can't be prepared.... They better fix this or I will go back to spending my disposable income on idk xbox one.
Within16Letters4 votesRead up on how DDoS works, then you'll understand why. (Hint: DDoS prevention is like something that is water resistant. It will repel water up to a certain point, then it is fucked)
IronLeaguePro1 votesWithin16Letters2 votesDo you really think DDoS'ers have not found a new more effective method since that article was posted? (October 15, 2012)
IronLeaguePro1 votesMost of these "hackers" are nothing but script kiddies and maybe there has been a more effective method but most servers are running 2007-2012 protocols and software. I'm sure there are smarter people getting paid to prevent this stuff than there are creating it.
Elisfr3 votesIf these really are script kiddies, don't you think that the tech guys at Riot and the ISP's they're working with (who live, breathe, eat, and study this kind of stuff) haven't found a way past this?
That's just insulting.
IronLeaguePro1 votesand yet some genius hacker has nothing better to do than target LoL. I'm just saying two and two don't add up. I'm done arguing, regardless of the reasons why, if I can't play the game that I pay for I'm going elsewhere.
AbiwonKenabi1 votes"Game that you pay for"
I know people who don't pay a dime for this game. F2P OP
ninjanomikz1 votesYou'll be surprised at what script kiddies can do, after all Steve Jobs and Bill Gates were that (infact they didn't even finish college). Anyway in regards to the DDOS Attacks, Riot is the only company I've seen that can't handle them well so yeah riot definitely need to step their game up. In saying that though my main is on the OCE servers and usually Riot doesn't give a crap about their smaller servers but because of the issues in NA, OCE has been running flawlessly lol.
AbiwonKenabi1 votesI wouldn't exactly refer to Steve Jobs or Bill Gates as "nothing but script kiddies" as BabyBane does. Pretty sure that belittles what they can actually do. Not saying you are factual wrong or anything, just that script kiddies CAN do a lot, and aren't always "just script kiddies".
ninjanomikz1 votesI would refer to them as script kiddies (if we are using your terminology), I think script kiddies however have the potential to do amazing things. If they can figure things out by mucking around imagine what they could do with some focus and a real goal? (Steve Jobs and Bill Gates again).
AbiwonKenabi1 votesYou act like Riot is just ignoring the problem, which is just stupid. If they were just "script kiddies" Riot has more than enough talent, resources, etc, to take care of it. Assuming Riot doesn't want to fix the problem as much as we do is just plain wrong.
Gondlink1 votesI was in a game then it lagged out and I got dc'ed and now i cant play league anymore. Every time I log in it ways you have left a game in progress please reconnect. Cmon riot next time you make me lag out this hard I better be getting rp or I'm not playing this game anymore!
Hanf2 votesthreat is useless at all
ZxTelekxZ1 votesLove how this lame excuse for a company riot implements a loss prevention system that doesn't actually work because they take their sweet ass time trying to turn it on. That must be one large button to push because it seems to take them 30mins to turn on. This is the second time this week i got a loss that my team dced from and the other team ended. If your going to have a system to prevent losses please learn how to use it.
BewtieSects1 votesDear Riot, Lags and disconnects are still happening; no loss prevented in ranked games. Just played a game with 4 afk's and it still counted as a defeat. Issue has been addressed, but with little effort to inform your users of the status, many of us are left wondering how long this will continue. Losing faith, Riot.
imK1 votesWe are expecting some type of giveaways or something as an apology from Riot
