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IPromiseTomorrow16 votes

Riot is Robin. Batman is community.

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D3m37r110 votes

Why is mf supp even a thing?

Sims161946 votes

Rox used it against SKT during worlds and won so people are trying it now.

Ayame Isaki25 votes

The problem is that MF support was amazing and most people don't understand why it was so effective (specific team comp, specific matchup, specific order of abilities to generate synergy with the Ashe, and pro level play). Thus, everyone wants to try it so it was "OP" without putting any thought into it.

At the end of the day, it was a fantastic niche pick by ROX that SKT couldn't answer. I just wish people would try to understand why it was a such a good pick (because then they would realize it isn't a good pick in 99.99999% of situations).

Serika Zero2 votes

why are most of you ignoring the fact that it was also played by samsung, proving that it was a valid pick for more than specific team comp

Ayame Isaki17 votes

I hate to point this out, but Samsung used it the exact same way as ROX; with the Ashe into the Zyra. Also, there is other overlap as well with ROX/SSG team comps when using MF support. Notice that the team comps bring plenty of utility (in the SSG example below, the Viktor mid brings good CC and the Ekko brings CC and engage).

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/TRLH1/1001940057?gameHash=aa74b345e8679805&tab=overview

DeathBot66610 votes

SHHHHHHHH

You're ruining his argument by providing actual facts.

WTF is wrong with you?!?!?!?

Serika Zero2 votes

Ashe + MF into Zyra. That was the entire "deal" about it.

Its not a comp, its not special game play, its just those 3 characters. Then again, NA is so smart, no wonder they finally made it out of groups. Maybe in 5 years you might get to the finals

CarameI Frappe1 votes

He didn't pick MissFortune because she's OP, but because her kit was the perfect counter to Zyra. The plant girl has to get somewhat close to do vines, but MF's bullet rain has more range, so Zyra gets slowed & hurt while trying to walk up. Not to mention Ashe and their ults would force a flash out of Zyra, or secure a kill.

I may love playing Leona but she's not good against every comp especially against a Lucian Morgana duo. Someone like Velkoz would be better because despite he's more of a mage, his zoning + pokes would certainly force summons out of the duo. As the OP said, you can be super good at a champion but the final decision should be why you're picking a particular champion for and are the pros outweighing the cons?

Serika Zero1 votes

Ashe, Zyra and MF. That's 3 out of 10. That leaves 7 characters unaccounted for.

That's not team comp >.> Which is what I'm screaming against that perception that "this only works is super uber spcific match-up".

Its most likely going to work vs other poke type champions on bot lane, but not as well as vs zyra. the end

its a story about 3 characters playing on bot lane, not entire team comps

nitwitty1 votes

mmm more like just 97% of the time there are only so many champions for those decimal places buddy.

EvilMerodach1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Ayame Isaki,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=xWTg5ssZ,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2016-10-25T15:19:31.879+0000)

The problem is that MF support was amazing and most people don't understand why it was so effective (specific team comp, specific matchup, specific order of abilities to generate synergy with the Ashe, and pro level play). Thus, everyone wants to try it so it was "OP" without putting any thought into it.

At the end of the day, it was a fantastic niche pick by ROX that SKT couldn't answer. I just wish people would try to understand why it was a such a good pick (because then they would realize it isn't a good pick in 99.99999% of situations).

I was wondering why this happened: http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2327439023/32961597?tab=overview

I mean she wasn't all that bad..or all that good... I was mostly wondering why we had a mf support (in a ranked game) and no one was even pointing it out. But I wasn't going to be the one to say something about it. (Haven't been following worlds this year.)

ForFoxSakes1 votes

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I was wondering why this happened: http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2327439023/32961597?tab=overview

I mean she wasn't all that bad..or all that good... I was mostly wondering why we had a mf support (in a ranked game) and no one was even pointing it out. But I wasn't going to be the one to say something about it. (Haven't been following worlds this year.)

Or this is what really happens most of the time http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2329369797/38315864?tab=overview

Serika Zero1 votes

Samsung also won with it vs H2K, tho you probably didn't watch that since it wasn't as good as SKT games (realistic here)

Ayame Isaki1 votes

I did watch it and it was a clone of the ROX setup against a team they didn't need a niche pick to beat. Even though I'm not really a fan of H2K, I really wanted them to pull something out of their asses and win so we didn't have an all Korean final. Granted, I think SSG into SKT is going to be really exciting to watch, it is just disappointing that we don't have two regions represented.

derpylaser271 votes

[{quoted}](name=Ayame Isaki,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=xWTg5ssZ,comment-id=0002000000010000,timestamp=2016-10-25T20:21:01.026+0000)

I did watch it and it was a clone of the ROX setup against a team they didn't need a niche pick to beat. Even though I'm not really a fan of H2K, I really wanted them to pull something out of their asses and win so we didn't have an all Korean final. Granted, I think SSG into SKT is going to be really exciting to watch, it is just disappointing that we don't have two regions represented.

Lol

Bots Whilst High1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Serika Zero,realm=EUW,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=xWTg5ssZ,comment-id=000200000001,timestamp=2016-10-25T15:36:24.329+0000)

Samsung also won with it vs H2K, tho you probably didn't watch that since it wasn't as good as SKT games (realistic here)

Haha the Samsung support also fed his ass off and if H2k had just figured out how to push their lead they would've won game 1

Lord Galvatron26 votes

They only used it to counter pick Zyra. This is Olaf mid all over again.

RamboDash158 votes

And Coast playing Urgot after seeing it in the TSM game before-hand

SlntReaper40 votes

Is that a new champion? I furgot who he is.

Remedi2 votes

ha

AMYS GRAVE5 votes

and it only works with the ashe synergy.

President Swa1n3 votes

And to synergize with Ashe

Rakvir1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Goon Platoon,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=xWTg5ssZ,comment-id=000200000002,timestamp=2016-10-25T16:04:06.971+0000)

They only used pick it to counter pick Zyra. This is Olaf mid all over again.

Well, to be honest, Olaf mid is genuinely fun and if one is smart about how they build, it can be surprisingly effective against a wide variety of opponents. Not going to pick it into everything, obviously, you need to balance the needs of your team to prevent enemy snowballing, but Faker did inspire a lot of genuine thought and acceptance, despite that it was a cheeky move against an Irelia.

warpenguin5551 votes

I was lucky enough to never have an Olaf mid during that. I did play a ranked game with a Kennen ADC on the enemy team who cost his Skarner promos though. Skarner was like 12-1 or something and nobody could really kill him, but Kennen fed then AFK'd so it didnt really matter lol.

S H A Y C 01 votes

korea had been pocket picking mf vs zyra for a while now, most people saw it first at worlds though.

Only Play Darius15 votes

Hey man it technically has a 100% winrate in the worlds tournament

ProtestantCaesar6 votes

So do Fervor of Battle Rumble and Windspeaker's Blessing Zyra.

notice me Sin pi1 votes

i made a post explaining it few days ago. Maybe it's the answer u want if u r looking for something other than "it's used in worlds"

Kingdom Corn1 votes

Check her winrate... You will realize she is just a joke.

Reaper55998 votes

Hmmm, Leblanc, my most hated mid laner, Illoai, my most hated top laner and blitzcrank, my most hated support....

: ^)

Golden Tager X2 votes

MF bout to take the most hated support spot

Tentacle Love3 votes

The pic is just proof that Rito are master level trollers. Not because MF is on free week, but because Ashe isn't.

Glory ln Death3 votes

Well, they wouldn't want anyone actually thinking MF support was good, right? They're setting all the copycats up for failure so they never try it again.

Samflash31 votes

I think almost everyone has Ashe.

Orochi2 votes

I'm more concerned about the bad lee sins who will go 0/20 10 minutes in

bobbery52 votes

People who try Karma/Rumble once, don't like them, and never touch them again.

A Liberal1 votes

I played karma support once and hated her so I didn't touch her for a year and than one day played her mid during an ultimate bravery game and loved her (even if I was AD bruiser karma with ghost and flash)

Limrick1 votes

Rumble is far, far worse.

Toru Itai1 votes

i'm more miffed about Lee Win

Joseraph1 votes

Lee Shit*

Shurikin1 votes

test

billxx1 votes

I was more upset about karma and Leblanc. More adcs is more people to get deleted

warpenguin5551 votes

Riot: Now they will have to play support, whether it be to play MF support or make sure they dont get one on their team.

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