When a support main tries to roam

IcyPepper·Apr 20, 2016·28 votes·3,212 views

but the ADC has other plans

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51 Comments

Sniper 0Apr 20, 20165 votes

Bard http://www.kappit.com/img/pics/17749620dbcbh.jpg

IcyPepperApr 20, 20168 votes

"It was a great fifteen minutes, but that Assrelia is calling me over for a frostbooty call..."

Icy Hot ShotoApr 20, 20163 votes

This is literally why I stopped roaming as support. If I leave then my adc tends to all-in then be like, "SONA WHERE THE HELL DID YOU GO?!"

IcyPepperApr 20, 20164 votes

Well, to be fair Sona is quite pretty and having such a beautiful maiden at your side fills your heart with such valor.

Oh, and actually trading when you have that shield, instead of thinking she's a health battery or something.

But then again, not all ADC's are like me.

Icy Hot ShotoApr 20, 20161 votes

Well, to be fair Sona is quite pretty and having such a beautiful maiden at your side fills your heart with such valor.

Oh, and actually trading when you have that shield, instead of thinking she's a health battery or something.

But then again, not all ADC's are like me.

I'd just prefer they tell me not to leave over going in when I'm at mid lane then yelling at me for dying. I ain't Soraka, I don't have a global heal. xD

MhihnjApr 20, 20162 votes

Well, to be fair Sona is quite pretty and having such a beautiful maiden at your side fills your heart with such valor.

Not Valor, DETERMINATION.

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SkelenthApr 20, 20162 votes

Not Valor It's a taxi now

ChatillonApr 20, 20161 votes

such valor.

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Flame of PassionApr 20, 20161 votes

you're not suppose to roam as a support anyway....[zombie-brand-facepalm] unless your team is like 4 lvls ahead of the enemy

Maximum MordeApr 20, 20169 votes

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you're not suppose to roam as a support

Are you being serious or did a joke fly over my head? You most definitely should roam if doing so is a net gain for your team, or not doing so would be a net loss for your team. Like, if I roam mid real quick and force a kill, tower, back, or prevent those things from happening to us, and my adc is smart enough to not die, then its totally worth.

Ezreal is an example of an ADC where you would almost certainly be looking for opportunities to roam as a support. He's safe, can easily farm under pressure, and has relatively little kill pressure in lane anyway so there isn't much opportunity cost to roaming.

I probably would be very hesitant to roam if my adc was Kogmaw or twitch on the other hand because thats just asking for them to get dove and killed.

Obviously you will tend to spend most of your time in the bot lane, but there are definitely times you should be roaming.

Flame of PassionApr 20, 20161 votes

Do you ever notice how supports rarely roam in games? Because they think "hmmm a 1v2 with my squishy ADC doesn't sound good at all they will most likely die if i roam" now a good support stays with the adc early game and helps the team mid to late game unless they are losing bot

DorkunedAurasApr 20, 20164 votes

ADC main detected

Flame of PassionApr 20, 20161 votes

I play support and ADC

IcyPepperApr 20, 20162 votes

Supports aren't maids.

EndlessSorcererApr 20, 20161 votes

At least since Nidalee stopped being played support.

Magnum MackApr 20, 20163 votes

Supports rarely roam because most adc's aren't smart enough to utilize wave control or playing safe. If ym adc has pushed the wave into tower and decides to back the first thing I do is look at mid to see if I can roam effectively to help. If not, I ward really quick if I have Sightstone wards left and back.

If we just reamed bot lane and got the double kill, I roam the river to check for jungler and then hit mid as the adc backs, takes tower or follows.

Roaming is a HUGE part of being a good support because you don't need CS so missing a wave isn't going to hurt you AND it funnels all the xp from your adc's csing into your adc. It can also secure mid lane kills and objectives. It requires your adc not being garbage and being able to make smart choices. Most adc's tunnel vision on cs and don't see anything else. I don't blame them. CSing isn't always easy when you're also watching for a gank, looking for an in on your opposing duo and being wary of enemy initiation. But if you just killed bot lane and the jungler is top then you can bet your butt I am roaming mid.

Supports should roam. They just should. However, they need to pick the right times and the adc should eb creating lulls where this is doable for mid lane.

DorkunedAurasApr 20, 20162 votes

This, all the this.

A support is no the ADC's Slave, they're a support for the whole team, something Flame of Passion either doesn't seem to get, or wants to make sure all supports are his bitches.

Flame of PassionApr 20, 20161 votes

Im a girl, and supports aren't maids they are SUPPORTS if you roam and leave bot and your ADC dies early game that is your fault. your job is to SUPPORT to heal to keep your team living most defiantly the weak ass ADC and if you aren't doing that than or dont intend to do that then don't pick support!

If mid is getting 1v2 the jungler will come he IS the roamer and the ganker, let the jungler handle it don't gank for mid if you are support i would understand if it was a 2v4 then you go and help! supports are the doctors they heal and help champions!

I mainly play support and ADC

ArcticblastApr 20, 20161 votes

idk what being a girl has to do with any of this
"support" doesn't mean "ADC's ride or die" it means "support;" you should be looking for opportunities to support the entire team
yeah just put everything on the jungler's back, that's why you lost because the jungler was farming when he should have been counterganking even though the support didn't ward the river!
Braum can't exactly heal the ADC
chimes bro

sorry for unorganized response

Flame of PassionApr 20, 20161 votes

He called me a boy i am not he called me a "him"

2-5. Respond to me when you can point out how what i said was false, how you should not be in bot with the adc and stay early game because they can simply go 1v2 no core items and win because they don't need back-up they don't need support like the name suggests, how it is the supports job to gank how the jungler should not invade the enemy jungle and not be the one to help the lanes and not gank how supports are poor old souls who do too much not like top or mid has their share but look at that poor old support he\she has to heal and keep the team living.(despite their mechanics)

This goes for the people who see the -5 on my last post from the butthurt supports who dont like it when someone dose not want to suck their dick you guys are lvl 30s i should not have to tell you this! I also play support!

P.s Most of what you said did not make sense

rinsujoApr 20, 20162 votes

In the English language, if you are uncertain as to someone's gender, the default pronoun is "he/him/his".

He wasn't calling you a boy, he was using the language properly.

rinsujoApr 20, 20162 votes

So you're saying I'm not allowed to support Mid or jungle, I ONLY support the ADC? Let me guess, you main Vayne and NuSona.

OH I DIDNT KNOW YOU WERE A GIRL THAT CHANGES EVERYTHING, CLEARLY YOU MUST BE BEST SUPPORT NA. /s

Flame of PassionApr 20, 20161 votes

if you're trying to make me look stupid: read what i wrote again then edit your post re-read it then post it again on the forum try to refute what i just asked you to because right now you sound like a whiny little kid who didnt get his way

rinsujoApr 20, 20161 votes

There are no less than THREE roles with high Roaming potential - the midlaner, who has a position advantage to leave lane and quickly gank. The jungler, who is often outside of enemy vision and can make picks, and the support, who doesn't require CS and can therefore easily leave lane to aid others. Supports have been involved in roaming since S1, and just because it's no longer common doesn't mean someone SHOULDN'T do it. If you abandon your ADC to a poor lane position, yes, their death could be your fault. However, far more common is the support telling the ADC to play safe, leaving lane to roam, and the ADC then attempting to skirmish as though the support had not left.

If you only roam to try and help a 2v4 mid, by the time you get there you'll just be giving a third kill to the enemy team.

And while my initial post was emotional, it was also at least coherent, unlike yours.

rtbf225618241Apr 20, 20161 votes

if you're trying to make me look stupid:

Sorry, but you did that yourself.

Magnum MackApr 20, 20161 votes

I found that post laughable as well.

BladeSteelApr 20, 20161 votes

Actually in high elos the good supports normally roams mid after first back. Go watch some videos :P

DiscipleOfRhysApr 20, 20161 votes

In my experience as a support main, you roam in 4 instances 1: Both enemy bot laners are dead 2: Enemy ADC is dead. 3: ADC has gone to base, and enemies are low 4: Your ADC is a world-class goof and has pushed like crazy without waiting for you.

LGBTCuteApr 21, 20161 votes

Always #4.

YCitizenSnipsYApr 21, 20161 votes

Or you know the enemy team took advantage of the 2v1 and just dived or punished the adc for even trying to step forward without a support.

I swear all you support mains who think its so easy to just lane in a 2v1 while you roam need to try that shit for yourself.

EmbertineApr 20, 20163 votes

I just recently had a match when after laning phase ended our Caitlyn stayed on bot lane by herself when I was roaming and helping the team. She died atleast three times on bot, each time blaming me for not being there.

A support is only the ADCs support during laning phase. Once laning phase is over the support is the whole team's support people!

Flame of PassionApr 20, 20161 votes

that's not it at all....

IcyPepperApr 20, 20163 votes

Can you stahp.

Bottom LanerApr 21, 20161 votes

Well judging by his name he seems quite passionate

IcyPepperApr 21, 20161 votes

She, apparently, and she's rather insistent on it.

And yes, quite passionate... >.>

LauchmelderApr 20, 20161 votes

Zoro transformed into Kalista?

MhihnjApr 20, 20161 votes

Yasuo come back here

Zac

Flame of PassionApr 20, 20161 votes

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macromiteApr 20, 20161 votes

i can't stand adcs that can't hold their own, for some reason those are the ones that hold back whenever i walk into lane adn as soon as i leave that have a desire to dive.

Flame of PassionApr 20, 20161 votes

ADC are really weal early game and strong late game and are strong in team fights there is absolutely no reason a support should leave bot lane within the first 10-20min of the game the only reason you should leave is when we are pushing mid

macromiteApr 20, 20163 votes

ye, you're weak early, play with that in mind. some support roam all the time. deal with it, its only a bad strat if the adc can't hold their own alone, which more means that the adc needs to passive farm or just stay out of the reach of an enemy initiator on bot.

also, trust me, there is nothing better than shutting down an enemy assassin before they can get their ball rolling, and three man ganks on mid do that very nicely, especially if you can follow it up with some presence afterwards as the support.

Flame of PassionApr 20, 20161 votes

We do keep that in mind and farm under the towers but a 1v2 aginst a ranged champion and support is hard and we have to watch our tower being destroyed because we cant fight that we will die almost instantly

macromiteApr 20, 20163 votes

it's not going to be a 1v2 the whole lane. especially since if the support goes mid they will have some weight to ask the midlaner to go bot and help them, and then a four man comes in from behind since the enemy is going to be pushing because it's 1v2, after that we can hit a drag and probably take a tower.

IcyPepperApr 20, 20161 votes

The key is limiting that time and making good use of it.

Remember, a support's kit is useful in other lanes as well. Forcing a surprise 1v2 on another lane, while your ADC knows they're going to be on a 1v2 and play defensive until you're back. The key difference is the lane you're ganking has no idea the support is coming, especially if vision control is in your favor, whereas the ADC should know that they're going to be alone and adjust their playstyle accordingly.

It's difficult, but keep in mind that you have to be independent at times, like when the support dies or has to recall.

It's not like we just go to mid/top and just stay there (unless the ADC is toxic). We go where we needed for a quick job (secure an objective or gank a lane) and then usually head back to bot lane. Think of it like we're out warding, except it takes just a little bit longer.

LichKing234Apr 21, 20161 votes

Flame as someone who plays all lanes (a jack of all trades) as a support you have to know your adcs weakness and strengths to see if roaming is worth or as some people say wurf you also have to see what type of player your adc is if they are a passive player than it would be safer to roam at least it would be safer for you to roam cause you know hey they wont force fights or run into danger. if the are an aggressive player than they would be trying to force fights and you would have to breastfeed them kills or protect them from doing stupid things. you also have to take into account the enemy's match up and notice there play styles. if its a blizts (insert adc here) you would want to stay cause hes going to force fights, same with leona, thresh mostly engage supports. or have a really annoying poke bot lane like sona, karma, lulu. or off meta supports like vel koz, veigar, braid ect then you would be more likely to stay bot lane.

if they are mostly a keep my adc alive support, raka, janna, taric (before rework) it would be saver to roam since most of the time they arnt going to force fights. you also have to take into an account there adc and what they want to do.

plus you also have to be aware of the enemy jungler and wards they may have when you roam to mid or try to go top lane to help top lane (yes it has happens) so if the enemy jungler is top lane bot lane is say twitch and janna then its ok for you to roam to mid get a kill and maybe a tower then your mid laner and you can go bot kill them since they would think hey i can go after there adc and push in and get possible 3 kills all from 1 roam you have to consider your options before you roam and the enemy comp and your comp.

PailidinApr 20, 20161 votes

It's at this time I persuade my ADC that if I leave lane they get bonus EXP.

It only works some of the time...

Immortal spaxApr 20, 20162 votes

Plot twist: you are bard

chimes intensifies

blkh1Apr 21, 20161 votes

If my adc is doing well, I will ask if it is ok for me to go help a lane that might need it. I always come back if things in bot start going bad.

LGBTCuteApr 21, 20161 votes

ADCs are like 5 year old kids.

Vayne "I don't need you! I can do this aww by mysewf! I'm owd enuff!" Janna "Okay then, Mommy and Daddy LeeSin are going to gank mid - bye see ya later!"