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rtbf2256182417 votes

Darius can dunk once every minute. Garen can dunk once every 6 seconds.

NazZomLord2 votes

Not true, Darius can dunk an entire team under 3 seconds. And his actually does damage.

rtbf2256182413 votes

Only if he kills someone with it and it does less damage over time than a Garen utilizing his Q properly.

Baron of Bread2 votes

Darius will do more damage if he gets his passive and uses his Q, dealing unreasonable amounts of damage. Garen will kill the Villain and then do reasonable damage.

rtbf2256182412 votes

I'm talking about the ultimate and Garen's Q alone. I could just say Darius' ult does less damage than Garen's ult could if you want to compare entire kits now.

Baron of Bread2 votes

The problem with talking about Darius's ult by itself is that it is heavily tied to the rest of his kit. It doesn't make any sense to isolate it.

rtbf2256182412 votes

Then assume he is using it on someone with 5 Hemorrhage passive stacks and assume Garen is ulting the champion with the highest max hp with the Villain mark and his target is on 1hp. Garen does more damage.

Baron of Bread2 votes

Quite probably. However, if Garen is ulting someone with 1 hp then he is being a bit overzealous.

rtbf2256182412 votes

Yea but we're being technical right now. Both of their ultimates have to be used at the right time at the right place. Darius' ult is easier to pull off as it gets it's reset anyway if you kill someone with it and Garen's ultimate is a guaranteed one-shot if it's used at the right time on his target.

Baron of Bread2 votes

If we are going for optimal setups then Darius should get his ult damage 5 times over. In that case (assuming level 18 and no offensive items) Darius gets 4500 damage. Garen would need a nearly 10000 max HP enemy to do similar amounts of damage.

rtbf2256182411 votes

It doesn't matter as we're being technical here and Garen could technically do more damage than Darius ever could.

Baron of Bread1 votes

Being technical, unless the enemy team has a Sion who has 6 Warmogs and has killed over 380 units, assuming they are all champions or large units, you can't do more damage with Garen than Darius. That is not a case that can appear in a regular game, whereas The Great Pentadunk has occurred and will continue to occur.

I rest my case.

rtbf2256182411 votes

Your comment doesn't make any sense. Technically i'm still right and Garen's ultimate can guarantee a kill rather than Darius' ult which does not if you use it early enough without wasting time pointlessly just to last hit with it.

Baron of Bread1 votes

True, Garen's ult can guarantee a kill. However he can only do that against the Villain, otherwise he doesn't have something telling him when to ult. Darius' ult doesn't necessarily ever guarantee a kill, but if you know what you are doing then you can be certain about it 5 times in a row (and it isn't pointless last hitting if you get to use it 4 more times).

rtbf2256182411 votes

Or he could just be skillful to accurately ult at the right time. I mean i'm not just talking about the Villain mark.

We're only talking about the ultimates not the rest of their kits.

gatchi1 votes

what did i just read

Wukong X Ahri5 votes
Skelenth1 votes

Dunktown Funk

HayRoss2 votes

"Dammit, Garen. How did you lose so hard to Darius?"

Looks at build

item 3083 item 3056 item 3025 item 3117 item 3748 item 3091

(Screams internally because this guy can't figure out how to build the easiest champion in the game)

RisenDarkKnight1 votes

I mean warmogs can be useful, especially against darius. So he got one item right? [zombie-brand-facepalm]

HayRoss1 votes

I just grabbed a bunch of items I usually see really bad Garens build. Warmog's/Ohmwrecker MIGHT be useful in SOME situations, and you might really need mobility boots for whatever reason, but the other items are just a joke

OurLestrade1 votes

Forever Strong!

JVP151 votes

I cannot tell you how happy this has made me.

Vikíng1 votes

fite me.

gatchi1 votes

im so glad this image exists

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