If League did a war with dota
what would happen?who would lead league's army?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=90&v=8N9kQPFCQR8
what would happen?who would lead league's army?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=90&v=8N9kQPFCQR8
silencer: Silence! kassadin:_ Silen_---oh wait...
I tried to silence interrupt my mother once, boy did I regret that
Teemo. He is captain
Generals are inferior to Grand-Generals!
Generals are inferior to Grand-Generals!
who is league's grand general? i assume it would be xerath since he is a god.
Swain is the Grand-General of Noxus. It's the leaders title
who is league's grand general? i assume it would be xerath since he is a god.
Swain
grand generals are inferior to gods.
you rang?
Pardon?
League Champions have this overpowered ability to....MAKE 180 DEGREE TURNS without the equivalent of a mini ping-spike occuring.
This mechanic is insanely broken.
they would win off of that, literally making circles around the enemy. holy shit kat, appearing behind enemies.
just ults every time they finish turning around and pretty much anyone with a dash just runs behind them and then dashes behind when they turn around like... Hot damn.
Zero Counterplay GG No Re.
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Zero Counterplay GG No Re.
huh, shallow grave from dazzle is a tryndamere ulti on allies
great, they can stay alive just to get kited more.
great, they can stay alive just to get kited more.
You're right, but the fucker named bloodseeker prevents you from moving.
I can think of two characters that would put him on his knees.

out healing your nonsense and still kiting.
Don't forget Shaco
Crap I totally forgot-
Right here, Summoner!
An ally has been slain!
If that would ever occur (in game NOT lore based), Dota would completely obliterate League. I have no more love for Dota then League, but Dota is literally built around completely overpowered heroes. Take Phantom lancer or Medusa for example.
you could make the argument that dota heroes are weaker because it's easier to stomp over them.
Other Dota champions are able to stomp them because most (if not all) have such overloaded abilities and damage that would be unheard of in League. Medusa for example is made to literally 1v5 in a fight. Or Lich King who can revive himself multiple times in quick succession. You don't have a League equivalency for that kind of thing.
you could easily say that they can do those things easily because their enemies are weaker.
I'm not sure what you are trying to say. I said that they have abilities and kits that make them more powerful, why would they be weaker?
A german shepherd can't necessarily stomp over another german shepherd. Does that make a german shepherd weaker than the tarantula which can stomp over a cockroach?
Are you on the drugs?
It's a metaphor. The german shepherds can represent league champions - relatively similar in strength, so most don't seem completely op where they can annihilate each other - and the tarantula and cockroach can represent dota heroes - some are obviously immensely more powerful than others and can destroy each other easily.
This may make it seem like dota heroes are stronger than league champions because of how op some heroes are compared to others, but that doesn't actually mean anything since they aren't ever fighting league champions. They could be a lot weaker than league champions.
Or vice versa. You can't compare them based off of how each group does against themselves.
Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuude....
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Other Dota champions are able to stomp them because most (if not all) have such overloaded abilities and damage that would be unheard of in League. Medusa for example is made to literally 1v5 in a fight. Or Lich King who can revive himself multiple times in quick succession. You don't have a League equivalency for that kind of thing.
Which is hilarious because their kits are so overloaded that the game FEELS balanced. Meanwhile league has like 8 OP champs that just are overloaded and poop on everyone else.
Never forget Faceless Void, he can 1v1 any champ in league
Ok, so if we are speaking from a lore perspective, then League wins over Dota every day. The most powerful character in Dota, Lore Wise,(If I am correct) is Zeus. Zeus is only the god of Lightning and his domain is only Earth. While the most powerful character in League is Aurellion Sol, who is basically the god of the universe. I mean it says that he was born with the first breath of creation. And lore wise, League characters are much more than anything that Dota has. League characters are gods, they are interdimensional beings, they are the last of their kind, they are ascended, and they are much more powerful in lore. Then of course we have Teemo.
If we are talking about Gameplay wise, Dota would probably win, just due to their kits being much more overpowered and overloaded. To the point where some characters in Dota are meant to 1 v 5 the enemy team. Cough Wraith King, Medusa, Faceless Void, Huskar, Axe, Brewmaster, Phantom Assassin, Phantom Lancer.Cough (And that's all I can think of off the top of my head).
You forgot
the literal incarnation of Death as a Lore Win for League.
Nah Io is strongest.
His lore:
Io is everywhere, and in all things. Denounced by enemies as the great unmaker, worshiped by scholars as the twinkling of a divine eye, Io occupies all planes at once, the merest fraction of its being crossing into physical existence at any one moment.
Like the great twin riders Dark and Light, and yet another ancient traveler whose true history is lost to the ages, Io the Wisp is a Fundamental of the universe—a force older than time, a wanderer from realms far beyond mortal understanding. Io is nothing less than the sum of all attractive and repulsive forces within matter, a sentient manifestation of the charge that bind particles together. It is only in the controlled warping of these forces that Io’s presence can be experienced on the physical plane. A benevolent, cooperative force, Io bonds its strength to others so that the power of allies might be enhanced. Its motives inscrutable, its strength unimaginable, Io moves through the physical plane, the perfect expression of the mysteries of the universe.
Be aware that enigma can eat entier planets from what his lore says.
Corki vs Gyrocopter, Dog Fight!
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but isn't the design idea behind Dota2 "If everyone is overpowered, no one is"?
well yeah, because your ultimate doing 900 true damage to me is NBD if I can just come back to life.
It also helps that in DotA2 there are A LOT more items, so there's a lot more itemization options against different kinds of comps.
The factions would probably become separate little groups, if we're looking at it from a lore perspective. The Freljord would be 2 or 3 little groups. Demacia and Noxus of course. However, Demacia, Piltover and Bandle City might form one big tribe considering Poppy and Heimerdinger. Shurmia has Azir who can raise up sand soliders. (am i looking at this too hard?)
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The factions would probably become separate little groups, if we're looking at it from a lore perspective. The Freljord would be 2 or 3 little groups. Demacia and Noxus of course. However, Demacia, Piltover and Bandle City might form one big tribe considering Poppy and Heimerdinger. Shurmia has Azir who can raise up sand soliders. (am i looking at this too hard?)
lol, azir can raise an entier army by himself
If we go by Lore,
would literally just crush the star of the DoTA World... Then again, that just means Outworld Devourer is pissed and Night Stalker now has an entire world to occupy and create a new species on.
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If we go by Lore,
would literally just crush the star of the DoTA World... Then again, that just means Outerworld Devourer is pissed and Night Stalker now has an entire world to occupy and create a new species on.
Rubick the grand magus, his lore is saying "Inside the magic maelstrom, Rubick chuckled, subtly reading and replicating the powers of one in order to cast it against another, sowing chaos among those who had allied against him. ", rubick is able to read every move this explains why his ulti is spell steal. "No sorcery lies beyond my grasp."- Rubick
https://youtu.be/CAAnY_L4Pp4?t=41s The Forming of a Star might be magic, but the Crushing of it certainly doesn't look like it.
The DOTA crew would lose because they would spend all the time trying to eat the trees.
Idk how strong Dota characters are lore-wise...
But the fact that
exists makes me think it'll be a onesided fight
Dota characters are off the chain insane dude.
Weaver creates entire existences and universes. He is effectively a god. He creates the beings that create the stars. Chaos Knight is the very essence of chaos. He has an infinite number of himselves, or at least as many as there are dimensions. For every dimension, he can summon a copy of himself. Io is a being that connects all living things. It is the essence of magnetism and attraction, meaning it controls matter to a level. Enigma can eat matter and summon black holes as well as devolve beings to the simplest state possible. Last time I checked, black holes beat stars. Doom is the devil itself. Nuff said. Ancient Apparition can freeze anything to absolute zero, meaning all matter does not move in any way, shape, or form. Any heat that touches it is instantly brought to absolute zero as well. Nothing can get near it without freezing. It's so cold that light particles would freeze around it.
Dota characters are absolutely bonkers lore-wise. If Dota and League were to fight on lore-wise power levels, Dota would rip League's heart out.
Idk how strong Dota characters are lore-wise...
Mentioned that for a good reason :P
I know, I was telling how powerful they were so you would know
you would think that, until you realize just how powerful the champion are.
weaver makes dimensions, aurelion did that to by making the entire universe. chaos knight is the very essence of chaos, fiddles is the very essence of fear lo connects all beings, tahm connects all lands. enigma can eat matter summon black holes and devolve things, but you can't eat, destroy, or devolve nocturnes nightmare doom is the devil, but what is a devil to illaoi's god the ancient apparition can freeze things sure, but we already know how capable league champions are when it comes to that. nunu of course being the one that can also freeze things down to absolute zero.
Dota heroes seem strong, until you realize just what they are dealing with.
I don't think I quite fully explained myself.
Weaver could create Aurelion Sol. You have a fair point with Chaos Knight, although Fiddlesticks is a little bit outdated as far as what he is right now. Tahm doesn't connect all lands. He is just a cross roads demon that preys on the innocent. Doom is vague, so I'm not entirely sure how powerful he is exactly. Naga could definitely be stronger. The difference between Ancient Apparition is he does it without even trying. Things just freeze around him and he can do it on an extremely long range scale if he tries. Nunu has to both focus and channel to bring things around him to absolute zero, and only temporarily.
The main one here is Weaver. Weaver isn't limited to creating one dimension nor is he limited by anything. Weaver is limitless and could destroy dimensions other weavers were not protecting them. Plus, Weaver can reverse time and space. Imagine Aurelion Sol, plus Bard, plus Ekko and increase that power a bit, and you get Weaver. Plus, Weaver is not shackled. He is not enslaved at all. He is completely free to do anything he wants as long as he doesn't meddle in the dimensions of another weaver. Aurelion Sol does not have such freedom. He was enslaved by Targon through a trick. If this happened to Weaver, he would simply reverse time and space to make it to where this never happened. If he came close to losing against Aurelion Sol, boop. Not anymore. That's why Weaver is so stupid in his lore. He creates dimenions, reverses time and space, and is completely free to do whatever he wants as long as it doesn't mess with another weaver. That is insane lore power. The only being in League that comes close to this is Bard, who can traverse dimensions and manipulate matter. However, to my knowledge, he cannot go through time and he cannot create dimensions, so Weaver outclasses him.
Also Enigma controls anti-matter and I am almost sure that he never sleeps or dreams at all. Nocturne can die. Enigma can too, but a simple shade of a nightmare like Nocturne is a little bit small compared to Enigma. Going beyond all that as well, Enigma is a super clever bastard. He has created false lore about himself so that he can steal whatever he finds from those who seek him if he fidns them to be remotely powerful. Nocturne could track Enigma, find him, but then it wouldn't go down well for Nocturne since Enigma cannot be bound nor can he be attacked physically or mentally. The only way to kill him is to completely obliterate him and destroy all anti-matter in the universe. That is something that even Weaver would have a hard time doing since anti-matter is not limited to one dimension, but all dimensions.
I'm sorry but, the same goes for League. You read into the League lore and think, "Wow, this is unstoppable," and then read Dota lore and things are just stupid. It's lore is so full of beings almost beyond or equal to the power of a god that, until we get a lot more Aurelion Sols in League, there isn't much chance of a win for the League army if we go by lore power.