19 Comments

SecretAgentHulk16 votes

I don't get it. Supports exist to carry their carries (at least while laning).

King Odin7 votes

But as ADC you expect to carry your support. At least that's the mentality I get from adc's when I support

BADxW0LF4 votes

Nah. As a support your job is to help set up kills for your ADC. Without you, your ADC doesn't have much help for engaging.

Akeito4 votes

Nah. As a support your job is to help set up kills for your ADC. Without you, your ADC doesn't have much help for engaging.

That doesn't apply to a lot of adc that actually make plays. aka Ashe Ezreal Lucian Quinn Vayne Twitch and Varus . Each of them specialized in intiate a fight, picking off kills, duel and pin a target down.

Assuming adc useless without support is wrong here, gosu had a lot of afk support in his team and he is still rolling out mid game in good shape. But a good adc should not neglect their support either

Circuit Bear8 votes

Maybe its just me, but I don't really see Lucian, Ezreal or vayne as "initiating" a fight. Maybe picking off someone yes, but initiating? No. Twitch I am kinda to the idea "pick of a kill, yes" "intiate a teamfight, no". Cause anyone worth anything should punish an adc for being that far in front of his team.

BADxW0LF3 votes

That's fair. And yes, a good adc should make sure their support survives and is able to be a part of the kill (to get the assist). I guess I should alter my statement and instead say that you help to ensure your ADC gets the kill. I main Nami and Leona, both of whom are clutch when it comes to bot lane, IMO. I am deadly with my bubbles, ensuring less farm for the enemy ADC and making sure ADC has time to close the gap a little more so they can't run away.

Sir Vejeiro5 votes

League is a team game, thing that many ppl dont really understand, as so ive seen many adcs thinking they r godly and taking all kind of bad decisions and blaming their supports for it. And this happen in every tier. "Go in front and tank Janna!" - vs Leona and Vayne. "Dude, why did you left? i need you when i engage!" - adc decides to engage when support was warding near dragon. During the entire game you will rely in your skills and decisions and as adc you are dependent of the support to initiate/retreat specially early game when adc is the weakest and when he have no escapes. Supports, yes, they do carry the lane feeding their adcs, provide safety giving vision of the map (also something that many junglers forget that is their job too), pushes enemies out of the lane negating them farm and xp while grants their adc safe time farming, etc. So unless you see a big gap between teams skills lvl supports are always necessary to make plays.

SecretAgentHulk2 votes

Maybe we have different definitions of carry? As a support, I try to set up plays and keep my ADC alive to complete them; I call this carrying. Later on, I expect the ADC to carry the team by killing anything that proves troublesome.

I expect a support to carry the ADC so he can carry the team. Make sense?

But maybe Thresh does this. evilface I'm just learning him so I don't have a good handle on his late-game yet.

GetToTheLantern2 votes

The support makes the lane in every game and unless your an lcs pro then I don't see a 1v2 bot lane happening lolz

Snizzmung5 votes

OP is supporting the patriarchy by perpetuating a myth that all women need to be carried by men, and thus supports rape culture.

Check your privilege thresh.

IMightBeYourDad1 votes

trololololol

Ironclad Dragon1 votes

Snizz, pls.

SecretAgentHulk2 votes

Thresh will carry you...in his lantern.

GetToTheLantern1 votes

Lucian Senna is dat chu?!

Thresh Wtf bish get back in the damn lantern!

dustwind82 votes

A support is meant to be an extension of the carry. There is a reason you need a strong foundation in order to support a house. your support isn't carried by the ADC, they are simply another weapon for the ADC.

im lizard2 votes

As a person that plays Vayne, this is entirely true. item 3070 Vayne item 3070

Rikari1 votes

But Vayne hunts things like Thresh

Sadistic Cheese1 votes

Sadly it doesn't matter if you carry your ADC. If you get your carry fed, it's expected. There's no thanks coming your way. No one goes out of their way to help or save you. You're expendable. In a discussion of that ancient topic of 'who fed the enemy team?' I have literally been told: "you're playing Support, you don't count." Granted that's a little liberating but still.

At best I'm doing what people think I should. At worst I'm getting yelled at for feeding because I'm trying to save my carries or make some plays happen. I get very little out of supporting in the way of traditional praise unless I'm doing like, world-class good and we've facerolled two lanes just as a duo.

SlackerboyTC1 votes

I dunno about you, but when i play twitch its usually a mutual relation between me and my support, nobody is carrying anyone

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