What I think every time someone starts a surrender vote

ArkenStorm·Jun 22, 2015·48 votes·3,978 views

All it takes is one mistake to turn a teamfight around for an ace and you can go back and win the game. EDIT: It doesn't matter how well I play personally if the other team is simply better. EDIT 2: Pretty much this

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I don't surrender because I hate it when the other team does. Winning through a surrender isn't very satisfying compared to destroying the nexus. Even if it is a lost cause, give them the courtesy of a real win. And if you do happen to make a comeback, then it's a better game for everyone.

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darkdillJun 22, 201520 votes

http://chanseven.deviantart.com/art/LOL-When-you-give-up-that-s-when-the-game-is-over-523998121

VecuuJun 22, 20154 votes

Love this.

theragingnerdJun 22, 20152 votes

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http://chanseven.deviantart.com/art/LOL-When-you-give-up-that-s-when-the-game-is-over-523998121

yi is great late game hes a adc basicly

SammystormJun 23, 20151 votes

An adc that has to get in melee range.

AnidanJun 23, 20151 votes

The one good thing is that once he's there it's pretty difficult to call on an answer for him before a squishy dies. That said, afterwards he explodes if the team has an answer.

ArkenStormJun 23, 20151 votes

ahem "Q"

SammystormJun 23, 20151 votes

What does he do after q? He just kind of dies unless a team doesn't know how to handle him.

ArkenStormJun 24, 20151 votes

i was just referring to the "get into melee range" part

SHadowSchifferJun 22, 201512 votes

Why surrender when you can extend your teams suffering? Teemo

Scary DoorJun 22, 201511 votes

Gotta love the time vampires that just sit there spamming no on a surrender vote when you're down 30-6 at 20 minutes, especially in a normal game. Once you play a few thousand games you realize when they're won and lost.

EvilMerodachJun 23, 20153 votes

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Gotta love the time vampires that just sit there spamming no on a surrender vote when you're down 30-6 at 20 minutes, especially in a normal game. Once you play a few thousand games you realize when they're won and lost.

I've won games worse than 30-6.

Good example- Me: support Morgana score of like 0/3/2 Ally: MasterYi score of like 2/5/0 total team score- something around 40/5

Literally had boots, an hourglass, and a ward.

Enemy went for baron, because...40/5, why the f**k not? (and we were continually waveclearing off our inhib towers so they couldn't get in, and we wouldn't come out) I warded over wall, flashed in, threw everything down, snared tank, pooled biggest group of them, black shielded self so they couldn't CC me, ulti'd, baron got a knockup on 2 of them, 2 turned to fight me, 3 kept at baron, hourglassed, got a 5 man stun with them taking baron damage, ally yi comes flying in and gets a penta and baron buff, won game before they even respawned. With a score of enemy- 40/ us- 10. Whole game there was this guy (adc) spamming surrender votes and raging at how pointless it was to keep trying, any my only reply was 'Quitters never win.'

If you surrender every game you're behind in, you'll never learn end game defensive play or how to play from not being fed status, even if you lose 98% of games you're behind in, there's still that 2% you don't. And even if you lose 100% of them, you're still learning things. It's easy to get a win from having a 10/0/0 start, but being able to take a lane score of 0/5/3 and still pull out a win takes a lot more thinking and planning.

Slamurai JackJun 23, 20151 votes

People in 2000+ elo don't throw that hard unless they're trolling. I totally believe silver players can't close that game though. At that elo, there's always at least 1 guy that is not with the program, constantly drawing out games.

Confron7a7ion7Jun 22, 201510 votes

Yeah! Screw that guy who isnt having fun anymore. Lets force him to play this loosing game or report him when he goes AFK from frustration!

Look, I'm not saying to always accept the surrender vote but be realistic with whats going on. Can you win if you're behind 5 kills and 2 towers? Yes, this aint over. Can you win when behind 20 kills and they're pushing on your inhibitors? Probably not, and your teammates hate you for extending the suffering.

MetalGearTeemuJun 22, 20155 votes

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Yeah! Screw that guy who isnt having fun anymore. Lets force him to play this loosing game or report him when he goes AFK from frustration!

Look, I'm not saying to always accept the surrender vote but be realistic with whats going on. Can you win if you're behind 5 kills and 2 towers? Yes, this aint over. Can you win when behind 20 kills and they're pushing on your inhibitors? Probably not, and your teammates hate you for extending the suffering.

yeah screw that team that voted it down and wants to keep trying. Why should he care bout 4 peoples fun when his fun is on the line.

I know your lane sucked, maybe you got ganked, maybe you just got out played. But they want to keep going, and you owe it to them to try your best.

And I don't mean "Playing" I mean "Playing to Win".

You have always seen bigger throws, you've prolly be part of some.

You don't get the comebacks you end up talking with the guys about later by surrendering.

Android CowboyJun 22, 20159 votes

Know that you are loathed by the majority of players you hold in thrall because of your abject refusal to recognize when it is time to stop. Let me flip the script on you: only losers keep fighting when the battle is lost. Reckless or intemperate, pick your nom de plume. THIS is why we all hate and call you tryhards, such childish naivete, "oh we can still win this guyzzz, we're only down 45-8 and no turrets left!!1!1!" Gnar

The EllimiistJun 22, 20152 votes

Just remember "If you ain't trying to win, your a scrub by definition :D" is what I always say xD

For CarthageJun 22, 201511 votes

Oh, you can try to win - just do it in the next game because you already lost this one.

ArkenStormJun 23, 20151 votes

If that is the case, I still don't surrender, I simply do my best to get some final kills and basically let them win. I hate when enemy teams surrender, it's less fun. I would do the same for my opponents. And If I go out with a bang, then it's more satisfying, and the enemy team gets to be more satisfied because they killed the nexus. ALSO, it takes 2 to surrender. if my whole team wants to surrender, there aint nothin I can do about that.

DeynaTaggerungJun 22, 20156 votes

I always just say "surrendering is for losers"

blueberrypancakeJun 22, 20154 votes

I'm like Colonial New York

Gladly Abstaining from the vote xD

DarkDeamonDragonJun 22, 20154 votes

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I'm like Colonial New York

Gladly Abstaining from the vote xD

Courteously

blueberrypancakeJun 22, 20151 votes

ArkenStormJun 23, 20153 votes

Well I yield to South Carolina. I'm from North Carolina

JesterSummonerJun 22, 20154 votes

This is actually the exact quote that pops into my head sometimes.

Slamurai JackJun 22, 20154 votes

If you could't get the game under control when it was 2-7, what makes you think you're gonna turn it around now that its 6-32?

ok ill fed thenJun 23, 20154 votes

Death scores and gold leads are irrelevant after 45 mins.

Slamurai JackJun 23, 20153 votes

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Death scores and gold leads are irrelevant after 45 mins.

6-32 games don't make it to 45 minutes anywhere above bronze. Even silvers can close a lead that big.

ok ill fed thenJun 23, 20154 votes

You'd be suprised.

AnidanJun 23, 20152 votes

True that. Some of the biggest throws I've ever seen are in those featured high ranking games. In Bronze it's hard to call it a big throw because they're usually not really that far ahead, even when it seems like they should be. "They're so far ahead/fed!" "Dude, they're like 1200 gold ahead of their lane opponent; their team as a whole is only 4k ahead." But in Diamond and shit when one team is 20k ahead and still throws the game like a Frisbee? Absolutely impressive.

ArkenStormJun 23, 20151 votes

death timers too stronk

LanayurianJun 22, 20154 votes

I don't surrender because I'm there for dat IP

0neTrueGodHandJun 23, 20154 votes

I don't surrender because I hate it when the other team does. Winning through a surrender isn't very satisfying compared to destroying the nexus. Even if it is a lost cause, give them the courtesy of a real win. And if you do happen to make a comeback, then it's a better game for everyone.

ArkenStormJun 23, 20151 votes

^this is why

ChaosThiefJun 22, 20153 votes

If the nexus isn't exploding, you haven't lost yet.

~~STOP TRYING TO JUST GO PLAY ANOTHER GAME DAMN IT I DON'T CARE IF ZED IS 30/2/14 WE CAN KILL HIM~~

Z StatisticJun 22, 20153 votes

No, that's just continuing on despite people being paranoid. A lost game is when you have just lost your inhibitor and haven't taken a single turret, and your ADC isn't going to be able to take turrets quickly.

The probability that you ace them then is low. And even if you do, you now have to back to kill the supers before winions destroy you. Which means sending back either your ADC or your APC to kill them. Since one of your carries is dead (because we're trying to suspend our disbelief, not assume a miracle as a given), along with one or two of your frontline, you have 2 or 3 people, one of which can kill towers quickly AND clear waves quickly while the other one or two can just waveclear. Hopefully.

So you send back the person who can waveclear but not siege. So you have 2 people on the tower. And you killed one! Yay! Oh wait, you need to kill two more before you can take the inhibitor. And you need to walk to them, which takes precious seconds not hitting a turret.

So realistically, you probably are going to be able to take one turret, and maybe start on the next one.

So yeah, the enemy needs to throw two or three times MAJORLY in order for you to at least be even in towers. That's not even counting gold differential.

I mean, if you're going to buy me a lotto ticket if I don't surrender, ok.

warpenguin555Jun 23, 20153 votes

I only really surrender whem im in a bad mood. if im not that no button is getting hit

ArkenStormJun 23, 20151 votes

You and me both brah

gubigubiJun 22, 20152 votes

By grabthars hammer you shall be avenged -Severus Snape http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/lgm64phpztnwgiavd3jb.jpg

SnakezzyJun 22, 20152 votes

Yes, all games are winnable. But would I want to keep playing a game that we are down 20 kills and 15k gold? No. Sure, maybe in a half hour we could somehow win but even if you do, is it still worth it?

SwordSeraphJun 23, 20152 votes

I would think that pulling a win out of unbeatable odds would be a very satisfying experience.

AnidanJun 23, 20152 votes

I always thought they'd be really, really satisfying.

Then I pulled one of those stalling-comeback victories off.

I want my fucking time back.

The main relief for me in a long game like that is that the game finally ended because no matter who won after a 50 minute beatdown it's exhausting, frustrating and I hate it. The joy of victory to me doesn't overtake the misery of the whole team getting our asses collectively handed to us for 90% of the match. It's not fun.

Then again, I never got much joy from winning. Not that I don't try or anything, that'd be just plain stupid - why play the game if you don't aim to win? But I never got that ecstatic joy from winning that many other people seem to describe. I don't get that satisfying experience, I don't get anything at all. It's weird. Or I'm weird and something is legitimately wrong with my brain - one of the two.

ArkenStormJun 23, 20151 votes

I think that is mainly just the way you look at things. Not a problem, that's just your view of how things are. See when I get those kind of games, I agree with you. I hate being trashed the whole match. But that one mistake that the enemy team makes that allows you to blow through and win? To me that is just so satisfying that it outweighs the misery. I feel bad for the enemy team because of how close they were. But tryndamere backdoor base race FTW

ArkenStormJun 23, 20151 votes

ehhhhh...I don't think all games ARE winnable. sometimes the enemy team as a whole is just plain better and has better communication, and doesn't make mistakes that you can capitalize on.

Angry MonsterJun 22, 20152 votes

So what you are saying you are the type of person that has blind faith and counts on others to make mistakes instead of outplaying.

ArkenStormJun 23, 20151 votes

Not necessarily. If the enemy team is clearly better than myself or my team as a whole, then yes, I hope for a mistake, because that's the only way things will be turned around. If they just have better sieging/pushing, then we have to have communication from the team to collectively go and outplay them. Or I could play tryndamere and surprise them from the flanks

FastAsHeckJun 23, 20152 votes

only in ranked though. in normals i just say fuck it :D

FHMarshyJun 22, 20151 votes

In like 40 minutes long games? Maybe.

Honestly, if you guys managed to ACE them after they took down both your nexus turrets while having all 11 turrets up, i doubt you guys can make a come back

theragingnerdJun 22, 20152 votes

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In like 40 minutes long games? Maybe.

Honestly, if you guys managed to ACE them after they took down both your nexus turrets while having all 11 turrets up, i doubt you guys can make a come back

ahhhhh i remember that game ignored the jinx in 6 team fights 6 WHOLE TEAM FIGHTS I WAS UNCONTESETED and they still thought wtf? why aren't we winning we managed come back on open nexus and I DESERVED THAT CAKE

The EllimiistJun 22, 20151 votes

Yah I mean look at that actor who's name I can't even remember. He never gave up on his acting career and he starred in many notable shows and movies after home improvement, none of which I can remember at this time. :D