You decided to play Lissandra to counter the other team's Zed

Glory ln Death·Jun 27, 2016·54 votes·3,360 views

But you have never actually played her before.

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55 Comments

MrPharmDJun 27, 201617 votes

LOL.

Though Liss doesn't really need experience. Zed ults you? Hit R.

Glory ln DeathJun 27, 201611 votes

True, but the rest of your game will be a bit more challenging.

aLawfulFalafelJun 27, 20164 votes

nope, press R

j/k :)

Umbra IoniaJun 27, 20161 votes

And spam the Q all time. BTW to me Pantheon and Jayce with exhaust are better to counter Zed.

AeszarckJun 27, 20162 votes

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And spam the Q all time. BTW to me Pantheon and Jayce with exhaust are better to counter Zed.

Urgot is also a great Zed counterpick. He's got his passive that can reduce Zed's damage by 15% by hitting him, he's got his suppression-into-30/40/50% damage reduction ultimate, and he's got his Terror Capacitor shield. Frozen Heart is also a core item on Urgot.

Bottom LanerJun 27, 201617 votes

Who didn't ban Zed is the bigger problem here

PhelasJun 27, 20164 votes

A person who is decent enough to know that Zed, if handled, has zero chance in winning this game.

MrPharmDJun 27, 201611 votes

Funny how it's only Zed players that defend him.

Mad King HadesJun 27, 20165 votes

Yeah, they are the only ones who know his weaknesses. All the others just see a flash as he hits the ADC.

MrPharmDJun 27, 201611 votes

All the other players see the biggest bullshit in the laning phase...and then can one shot any non-tank regardless of how he did in lane.

Mad King HadesJun 27, 20162 votes

So. Lets talk about Vayne or Garen? I really prefer fighting Zed 1v1 over those 2.

MrPharmDJun 27, 20163 votes

Vayne's lane isn't good? Nor would I say Garen's is either lol...Garen does have the ability to kill people if they are the villain when behind, but he is also easy to stay away from.

Mad King HadesJun 27, 20162 votes

Too bad I am slower than Garen.

macromiteJun 27, 20161 votes

sounds like a personal problem.

kile147Jun 27, 20161 votes

If you have a problem with Garen you must have a problem with all juggernauts. You will die to pretty much any of them if they catch you out. They aren't really designed to 1v1 though, you should avoid fighting them head on when possible. I certainly think they are an unhealthy subset of champs that suffer from a similar problem as Zed (Darius is especially bad), but the issue with Zed is more his constant laning pressure and safety not his 1v1.

Mad King HadesJun 27, 20162 votes

I am da Juggernaut Mordekaiser. Its just that he beats the **** out of me 1v1 when I am Morde.

kile147Jun 27, 20161 votes

I have never tried that matchup, but I would guess that Garen wins because of his silence. Morde is kind of a caster juggernaut so that silence really hurts. If they changed his Q from a silence to Grounded do you still think he would win?

Mad King HadesJun 27, 20161 votes

I honestly don't know. I am mostly afraid of his spinning slash.

kile147Jun 27, 20161 votes

That is certainly most of his damage, but I would think you could out damage him if that was all he had.

HayRossJun 27, 20167 votes

Garen is a lane bully. What are you talking about?

Handin Out NapsJun 27, 20162 votes

You talk about him being strong, but the 46% winrate says otherwise. You should ask all the pro players why they never ban Zed, I bet its because they are all zed players. You should do yourself a favor and learn how to lane if you are still having problems with Zed.

trännieJun 27, 20162 votes

I did this with Kayle once ;-;

Glory ln DeathJun 27, 20162 votes

I feel you, bro...

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Witch of BabylonJun 27, 20162 votes

Why play Lissandra when you can play AP Janna mid? xD

UnderscorBunniesJun 27, 20161 votes

Fuck yeah, I love that matchup

SkelenthJun 27, 20162 votes

Same when my team wanted me to play Talon to counter the enemies Kassadin.

Let's just say it didn't went well

billxxJun 27, 20161 votes

Damn that kass must have been really good because talon just destroys him harder than garen v riven

SkelenthJun 27, 20161 votes

Maybe that, but I definitely am a really bad Talon

billxxJun 27, 20161 votes

See I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt.

CatastropJun 27, 20162 votes

In depth guide to playing Lissandra:

Q THE THINGS(also press R)

EvilMerodachJun 27, 20167 votes

{quoted}

In depth guide to playing ~~Lissandra~~ Karthus:

Q THE THINGS(also press R)

WacingTheFindJun 27, 20161 votes

You forgot:

Press W when the melees get close, and press E when you need to escape.

AeszarckJun 27, 20161 votes

Lissandra is a relatively easy champion to pick up. She's part of the ten initial champions for a reason.

EDIT: Her skills aren't that complex. She's got a boatload of damage with crowd control in relatively easy skillshots, along with a point and click ultimate. She can self-cast her ult when she's in danger, and her E gives her an engage and a disengage. She builds tanky and can punish melee champions extremely effectively. Her passive is probably the hardest part of her kit to play around, since as a beginner, one normally wants to spam abilities, which forces Lissandra to run out of mana very quickly. I'm saying this as someone who played Lissandra as his first champion and who still plays her to this day as my second favorite mage...

Hello I am BirdJun 27, 201612 votes

So is kha'zix...

RoodToobJun 27, 20164 votes

Kha main, and to be fair, Kha has simple mechanics at a base, and not too many complicated ones (but they exist)

So maybe thats why he's there.

The harder part about kha is knowing when to jump in and out. "But thats on every assassin dude" Well, yes it is on most, but kha has to deal with isolation. IDK what the easiest assassin for a new player would be, maybe its kha. I'd say put Kat, but maybe they wanted an AD assassin

SociopathFriendJun 27, 20164 votes

Easiest assassin is probably Talon.

HayRossJun 27, 20163 votes

I'd say Warwick

RoodToobJun 27, 20164 votes

That beautiful Ulti one shot.

item 1419 item 3153 item 3091 Red buff

Perfect

dapositivevikingJun 27, 20163 votes

patch 4.20 redsmite devourer warwick shudders

RoodToobJun 28, 20163 votes

Don't worry. That build still one shots

a w1ld bulbasaurJun 27, 20161 votes

no you doing it wrong item 3115 item 3100 item 3089

RoodToobJun 27, 20161 votes

I was thinking of mentioning him, but i don't play him enough to be certain

SociopathFriendJun 28, 20161 votes

Mechanically he's the simplest. Goes right to the target- no real skillshots- rub face on keyboard and either they'll be dead or you'll be dead. Simple as it gets.

RoodToobJun 28, 20161 votes

Cool, might pick him up. I love me some assassins

AeszarckJun 27, 20161 votes

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So is kha'zix...

Kha'Zix and Ryze are the only two champions that I don't think should be there.