Exactly the topic. What started all of this? Who fired the first shot, and what were they hoping to gain? The past few days have been a damn shame. I'm glad it's calmed down now, though...
Now I'm letting this go. M&G will be back to a De-Tilter in a few days.
Aír5 votesDISCLAIMER: I am not trying to sound like an asshole or anything. I am just putting the facts straight out there.
To start off with, I never intended to go against LF. Ever. At all. Whatsoever. In fact he was one of closest if not best friends. I was grateful for him in many ways.
So about a week or two ago, I begin to set up an idea for a project: one where those who reside in M&G can connect and play/compete/do activities with/roleplay in their boards personas together. I knew one of the biggest problems was that a) a club room could only fit 50 people max and b) many people who aren't really the top memers here are not well known for their names by others, just an occasional meme or two but then forgotten. We already had The Men that Giggle, but it was full and many people still excluded. And a lot of people still didn't really get a chance to interact with each other in a way that can make those lasting friendships.
Now the main thing about this project is that it would have a relatively complex hierarchy. What does this mean? Well, a lot gets into this:
I am currently aiming to fill up at least 3 club rooms, each club room being a squadron of memers. Every 2-3 weeks there would be competitions between the different squadrons (friendly, of course, with RP, Skin, or cookie prizes :3). Eventually it would be streamed so that the other members could watch and I was hoping to present that stream in as professional a manner as possible. And in these squadrons themselves there can be competitions as well as dictated by their Squadron Leaders (perhaps to see who can get the ability to compete). The coaches cannot compete, but if enough high levels join, then we can do high level matches as well.
Coaching is something I want to make readily available (from Plat+, mostly Diamond, players). When I was a lower elo player, I always wanted a way to get constant coaching with easy access to it (and not needing to pay money). Sometime next week I shall be setting up a calendar where coaches can present their free time and what lanes and champs they are most comfortable with coaching and individual members can easily sign up for a spot. An officer will dictate restrictions on how much coaching one can get and also helps coordinate coaches with their availability after I finish setting this up.
Officer positions will be appointed to help manage the "army." My main goal after M&G are unified is to make this nearly self-sustained and officer positions being terms that one has to be elected into. These positions include (but not limited to) Police Officers (1-2 per squadron), Discord Manager Officer (respondible for moderating it and other ideas to improve the environment), PR/Recruitment Officer, Coaching Officers, Squadron Leaders, and Roleplaying Officers (who coordinates DMs). In result, I myself will soon not have much power. I just help where i can.
Roleplaying is a huge thing that has emerged within this "army." Originally it was a fun thing but has turned into a past time for many of us that we grew to enjoy. Even now, we treat each other in the army chat through our boards personas or a character we make. And in result, we are going to make it a large and fun part of the forums reserving much of our discord for this special type of roleplaying. We will have open RPs which is in an infinite loop (no start or end time) that are separate text channels representing every part of Runeterra and the "Kingdom" that the "army" resides in. And within "taverns" in many of these places there is an opportunity to sign up for missions, or as many of you know them, dungeons from DnD. These will be set at certain times so that a DM can run them and will involve lots of strategy, fighting monster, and possible life loss (pray you have GA :P). And winning these missions can earn rp. ^.^ We are going to make this simple and easy to do, especially since everyone general has a persona/character going in. :3 This is where the whole Queen thing seems to stay and why we call it an army. I do not mean to flaunt this army in a way to get attention for myself, just as a way to get everyone together. As I always say "I am not a Queen unless my people want me to be." The first thing I ask before letting someone in is if they are willing to pledge loyalty to the army (the army being all of M&G) if I can earn/keep their respect. This is for them, not me. (FYI, the Queen's Army is actually a reference to Harry Potter :3)
Now the biggest question: why did you go against LF?
Well, the first I want you to know, is that I wanted him to help me. Except there was one problem: he was leaving a bad influence from his ego on some people due to his notoriety. And since this was going to be largely in our boards personas, giving LF all of the power when that was never going to be the case and ruin the system that would be set up for it wouldn't work. And the fact that he was actively hurting or insulting people that didn't worship him or share his opinions only made it worse. Sure you might say it was only one time, only raptor. But I have seen it happen to some smaller memers a few times in the last month or two. In fact, it got so bad that some people's arguing point toward me has been that I am insulting HIM for trying to get him to reduce his ego a bit because he deserved it through his M&G throne.
So if someone is famous, that makes it okay for him to be an asshole to people?
Essentially, after I asked him to share some of his power for this sake, he proceeded to demean and insult me - which I didn't care about - until two of my supporters chimed in to defend me. And LF insulted and demeaned both of them as well. After that, even if he was my friend, and seeing that he was not going to change, I could not have him on my side for this. Sadly, I let my army go too far with dividing the boards between us. I thought a little might be okay for the sole reason that maybe he might listen to us if we were vocal enough... but I never meant to downright have him leave. I think he can be a great influence on the boards if he just changed his attitude a little.
So yeah, I messed up. I take all the credit for it. That is what I am for, to take the brunt of it. But don't blame my supporters for what I did wrong. They just want M&G to be a better/united place and sadly things did not quite go as planned.
I am sorry.
HexaDecimel3 votesThe whole idea of Laughing Fish being the lord of M&G Board was a joke, and everyone knew it. LF played along and people where fine with if for the most part. You took it too seriously and tried to put yourself in a position to be in charge of the Board. I don't understand how one person being in charge or a figurehead was suppose to bring the boards together.
Then you drew a line in the sand and asked that people would take sides and support you. Laughing Fish responded to your offer the same way he always does, with humor and sarcasm, but for some reason you took offence and started spamming every post about how rude and arrogant he is. How you didn't want to start a fight but that he refused to accept your offer.
Your words encouraged others to join in and create this witch hunt to bring LF down. Then when you realized that some other people were getting unhappy with what was happening you played a victim card and went on about how sorry you where, how bad you felt, and how you never wanted to start a fight. Your actions caused this all and yet you don't take responsibility for it. You keep acting like LF was the problem.
The only way uniting all the boards together will ever work is if there is no single person that presides over everyone else. Honestly after all the shit you stirred up it would probably be best if you passed on this agenda of yours to someone else who is mature and careful enough to do this the correct way.
The Aqualious4 votesOye... It wasn't just her that fucked up, the ones who were encouraging the "Recruitment" Did so on there own, and a lot of things I did, I did on my own
You can't blame her for the the faults of many, all of our actions were rash, and maybe 2% of those, Airman was behind
Most of us heard war and maned our stations without considering what could happen
As for whether she should hand her agenda over or not...
**A Majority of You Are Not in the Chat Room... Many of You, do not get to see the creative Ideas she has, or Know just how mature she is **
She's more than A Queen, she has A VISION of what she wants to do, and is making plans accordingly
Hiccups just come with creation, some Bigger than Others... If you don't believe me, then turn to history and you will that I am not wrong about that at least
Mad King Hades2 votesDamn it. That was one fine speech.
Aír7 votesI don't want to be charge. Forget me. I am just someone trying to set this all up before I give up whatever little influence i have.
I just wish people could just understand that.
Face The Sun5 votesto whoever downvoted this comment, die in the suns fire.
Face The Sun2 voteslike aqualious's comment your view of airman is only that of what you see here on the boards, airmans posts previously to this have gone mostly un-noticed, she is not some nobody who decided to face the fish (no pun intended), she has been around far longer than I myself have, the whole REASON SHE IS BEING CALLED QUEEN IS BECAUSE FISH SET HER UP WITH KING ODARTH, and that relationship is real. To be honest, what she says about fish is partially true, if u were here for the whole raptorkarr incident you would know that while fish replies to criticism with general sarcasm and humor, Fish is a person, he is insecure, anxious, currently is not In a romantic relationship, boastful, selfish, etc, and while he may insist he is some internet god or celebrity, he isn't, he is a league player who posts gifs and memes that the community finds funny.
you say that airman was breeding a witch hunt, that couldn't be farther from the truth, you think I haven't noticed all the down votes being poured on airman, hades, and aqualious. all the times that I have had to upvote them just to maintain the balance.
Your actions caused this all and yet you don't take responsibility for it. You keep acting like LF was the problem
DID YOU READ HER POST? ALL THE WAY TO THE END? she is sorry, she takes credit for what happened even though it was a slew of other reasons, most likely personal and IRL, that fish is on his hiatus.
Airman is a good person, I have seen it, she has no malicious intent (again, no pun intended) against fish, and you know what? I find it fucking hilarious that all the people doing all this extremeist and loyalist attitudes towards fish and hate towards airman are names thinking OMFG FISH SENPAI WILL NOTICE ME! I have never even seen on these boards till now. I, malicious, febeast, heretic lunari, rubick, odarth, etc, we are all part of fishes club and have talked to him, PLAYED WITH HIM, FRIENDS WITH HIM. You and some of the others who are throwing this stuff out ARE NOT, take a good look at some of the posts considering the war. what do your eyes see? if you ask me, the ones with the most votes are the ones ASKING FOR PEACE, for a peaceful resolution and for everything to go back to the way it was, no blame, no pointed fingers, no hurt egos or feeling, then you look further and find posts by airman, aqualious, and hades, whom even if they are posting something non related to the war, still get downvoted, I am not sure if you are the one doing this, but someone is, and as I stated before, Im fucking sick of it. sigh,
I get that some of what I said can be seen as aggressive and mean, for that I am sorry, but I just need to let all this out and INFORM EVERYONE THAT AIRMAN COMPSCI DID NOT PLAN THIS WOULD HAPPEN AND NEVER INTENDED IT TO BE SO. If you are mad and want to downvote me? do it, prove me right.
Aír3 votesThank you. :3
This made my week.
HexaDecimel2 votesI haven't been downvoting you guys, I reserve those for the Player Behaviour & Moderation Board.
But I am upset that one of my favorite members of the Boards has left because of several other people's actions. I am upset that the person that convinced me to get more involved on the boards has it seems been driven out by people who support Airman. This being a predominately male environment I started out nervous and he made me feel welcome.
I don't care about what people were trying to do, I don't care how great the idea's were, I care about what the actual result was on the Boards. I was apart of his club as well, I generally didn't talk much to other people, just him. But suggesting that I or other players don't matter as much just because we don't show up on the boards as often just goes to show awful this board is becoming.
M&G just doesn't seem like its about having fun and making jokes anymore. It has become, "what group are you with", "join our side", "lets label this player a bad example". And now it would seem it depends on how often you post and who recognizes your summoner name.
Aír3 votesI don't mind the blame. I deserve it. But don't blame the rest of M&G who followed me into it. I made a terrible call and dragged them with me. But it still does not change what I am trying to do and it is really a big accumulation of everyone's ideas here. :)
And I do not know if this is any consolation, but contrary to the whole "Queen" thing, i am more like a guy myself. Look like one, act like one. I mean, girls make not sense what so ever. Could never relate with any of them, hehe, was one of the reasons why I loved gaming (only LoL cough) so much. And this boards too. I fit in. :3
HexaDecimel2 votes... girls make not sense what so ever. Could never relate with any of them...
gee thanks
dragon1xx1 votesI kinda started it with my "Who's the king of the boards now?" thread. It's technically my fault. Airman, don't feel bad. You took advantage of a situation that I made. I probably at the time knew it would be inflammatory. It was, to me, a kind of joke. Mindless fun. Then it escalated and I did nothing, as the owner of the thread, to stop it. Airman, don't feel bad. It's not your fault.
Aír2 votesOh, that made no difference. Like literally had nothing to do with it. I actually didn't realize there was a correlation until you just made it. No, this was something I did on my own. I never wanted to be lord of the boards anyway. At all. That was never my original intention. I was working on something like this before that even happened. So yeah, that has nothing to do with it.
Yaśuo Main3 votesSomeone decided to try and change the whole boards, so they idiotically alienated a section of the boards, shamed LF for no damn reason but to act superior, and end up making LF leave.
Freakin sicko's, they even acted innocent afterwards too.
Edit: One person did this, and the rest involved took it as a joke. The real culprit is the so called innocent. ( Not LF because he was the one attacked to being forced to leave.
Face The Sun3 votesTHIS IS A COPY AND PASTE, BUT THIS STILL APPLIES
like aqualious's comment your view of airman is only that of what you see here on the boards, airmans posts previously to this have gone mostly un-noticed, she is not some nobody who decided to face the fish (no pun intended), she has been around far longer than I myself have, the whole REASON SHE IS BEING CALLED QUEEN IS BECAUSE FISH SET HER UP WITH KING ODARTH, and that relationship is real. To be honest, what she says about fish is partially true, if u were here for the whole raptorkarr incident you would know that while fish replies to criticism with general sarcasm and humor, Fish is a person, he is insecure, anxious, currently is not In a romantic relationship, boastful, selfish, etc, and while he may insist he is some internet god or celebrity, he isn't, he is a league player who posts gifs and memes that the community finds funny.
you say that airman was breeding a witch hunt, that couldn't be farther from the truth, you think I haven't noticed all the down votes being poured on airman, hades, and aqualious. all the times that I have had to upvote them just to maintain the balance.
Airman is a good person, I have seen it, she has no malicious intent (again, no pun intended) against fish, and you know what? I find it fucking hilarious that all the people doing all this extremeist and loyalist attitudes towards fish and hate towards airman are names thinking OMFG FISH SENPAI WILL NOTICE ME! I have never even seen on these boards till now. I, malicious, febeast, heretic lunari, rubick, odarth, etc, we are all part of fishes club and have talked to him, PLAYED WITH HIM, FRIENDS WITH HIM. You and some of the others who are throwing this stuff out ARE NOT, take a good look at some of the posts considering the war. what do your eyes see? if you ask me, the ones with the most votes are the ones ASKING FOR PEACE, for a peaceful resolution and for everything to go back to the way it was, no blame, no pointed fingers, no hurt egos or feeling, then you look further and find posts by airman, aqualious, and hades, whom even if they are posting something non related to the war, still get downvoted, I am not sure if you are the one doing this, but someone is, and as I stated before, Im fucking sick of it. sigh,
I get that some of what I said can be seen as aggressive and mean, for that I am sorry, but I just need to let all this out and INFORM EVERYONE THAT AIRMAN COMPSCI DID NOT PLAN THIS WOULD HAPPEN AND NEVER INTENDED IT TO BE SO. If you are mad and want to downvote me? do it, prove me right.
Yaśuo Main2 votesActually, Im just fueling a fire.
I mean, I do take memes too seriously, so I guess this wasn't as obvious as a troll comment. lel
Edit: BUT, this stuff that happened because of this army drama and pardon my language, but it is REALLY fucked up. However, there is still someone upvoting and down voting in the favor of putting down Airman, and I for sure found I got upvoted twice on one of my comments which was just flaming Airman excessively.
Edit 2: Even better, I've also been down voted by said person.
Aír3 votesI don't like to downvote people just because they are stating something I did wrong. >.<
If anything, I need to take in everyone's opinions of what happened, especially if what I am trying to do is for those people.
Yaśuo Main1 voteswat???
Aír2 votes>.<
Face The Sun2 votesHow can u tell who is downvoting you?
Yaśuo Main2 votesUgh, this is such a cringey question.
Well, for example. Let's say me and some guy were flaming each other and every time I post a reply, It gets down voted. (Fairly Obvious)
By looking at how they reply or how angry they get over something little, you can determine whether or not they are down voting you. In this case, it's obvious as idk who is but whoever is down voting you AND almost everyone involved with this accident, obviously won't be hidden. I mean seriously, you already got down voted ALONG with airman.
Edit: Basically everyone that was involved is being down voted.
The Aqualious3 votesTHE GERMANS
THEY CAUSED THIS
THEY CAUSED THE FIRST WAR, THEY CAUSED THE SECOND WAR, AND THEY WILL CAUSE THE THIRD WAR IF THERE IS ONE!!!
note: I have German background, I'm allowed to make this joke
Mad King Hades2 votesMy friend makes that same joke, he is Dutch.
Glory ln Death2 votesPeople posted things and then stuff happened. Cookies may or may not have been involved.
Swiftdeath2evil1 votesThe British fired the first shot. And then all hell broke loose.
