When you have relic shield and the adc last-hits the cannon minion after you start autoattacking it
http://www.gravitybong.net/files/public/1365045784_880_FT60135_dead_to_me.gif
Wow top lane looks good for a gank right now...
http://www.gravitybong.net/files/public/1365045784_880_FT60135_dead_to_me.gif
Wow top lane looks good for a gank right now...
Incidentally, this is the same reaction I have when my relic shield bearing lane buddy watches the cannon minion die repeatedly without attempting to attack it.
This.
I don't ADC often, but when I do I'm always super conscious of my support, and do what I can to help them stay relevant. But if I give you three canon minions in a row, and you don't take them, game over mate. These are my farm now. And I can see the glowing orbs of happy, so I know when you're shield is charged.
And I can see the glowing orbs of happy, so I know when you're shield is charged.
You my friend. . . Are in the minority.
I've mained ADC since I was level 18, and I didn't even realize that relic shield had a visual indicator until this month. I used to get really stressed about it too, "how the fuck am I supposed to keep clicking on him to see if it's up AND cs?!"
...
sigh.
Some other things ADC's often miss:
-Xeraths AA minions to regain mana. -Maokais AA minions to regain health. -Shen sword marks minions to heal you (AA the marked target!). -Lulu's Passive can be blocked by minions. -Soraka's heal costs 10% max health. I'm not trying to hit minions with my Q, but sometimes the self heal takes precedence. -Karma's Q hitbox is noticeably bigger than the animation. We say it get blocked by butterflies for a reason. -Thresh can not use the Targon line's execute. It only works on melee champs. Which means we need to wait longer to last hit.
Yes, I've been accused for all of these.
You forgot about the newest one.
-Bards AA to send out a meep (depending on how many chimes you have) to send out damage to you, those behind you, and a slow; for a couple of times (maybe 3 or 4 or maybe 5).
I co-main support and ADC, and it helps so much to have an idea of what's going on in my lane partner's head.
If they do that, they should be taking coin instead.
When I have relic shield, I watch my charges like a hawk. I don't get to cs like an adc. Those are my real gold income. Those cannon minions will learn to fear me!
But if someone is a noob with relic shield, just start last-hitting normally. They can have the melee minions if they're ignoring the juicy ones.
To be fair, I'll sometimes prioritize healing the ADC. Which means I have no charges for the cannon minion. (Ex.: right after an all in / bad trade.)
We've all been there, we've all been there.
It really helps, though.
typical blind adc main
My reaction when I miss the Cannon Minion last hit.
And I know my ADC won't trust me to get any of the rest for the entire game.
oh god... I can't stop clicking it... what have you done O_o
When you have 4 stacks of face of the mountain and Ziggs uses all his spells to wave clear when you are walking to a wave.
http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Michael-Scott-angry-stare-at-toby.gif
from one support to another... http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/murray_upvote.gif
Is it just me, or are there a lot more gif's running around lately?
meh, they're fun right now, in another few months, it might be something else. till then: http://media.giphy.com/media/SjiztN4YVwd9e/giphy.gif
As someone who plays almost exclusively tanky supports when bot lane, I know this feel.
I make it very clear to my friends that if they're not going to let me have my only source of gold income and hold me back by taking the big ones, I'm going to switch to coin and they lose out on the only sustain our lane had. -_-
Pretty much.
"Bruh, you know you get the gold AND a heal if I kill the minions, yeah?" "NAH MAN ADC FARM 4 LIFE" "Buddy. Mang. Brospeidon. I need this gold to be tanky enough to save you and set up kills." "STFU n00B SUPPORTS DON'T NEED $"
As someone who plays almost exclusively tanky supports when bot lane, I know this feel.
makes two of us
I Just kill secure, when that happens.
I'm so done buying relic shield. Soon as my adc has a bf, even a pickaxe, they stop letting me have minions. That's my gold income, please think of your support. :[
when you have relic shield instead of sherlias item past the 15 minute mark.
:l
Hm? Er...
Of all the support income items, the only one I don't upgrade is spellthief's edge.
I never saw any reason to get shitty face iof mountain or w/e its called Everytime I see it I'm like "and if they had sherlias their entire team could've just ran away/caught up and killed my team"
It's just so worthless compared to sherlias.. or w/e thyey call it now.. acension?
Something like that.
this
If you're on a high health tank (such as Shen or Maokai), that 200-300 health shield comes in handy.
For most supports, shurilea's active is flat better. And Frostfang will provide more gold than Face or shurilea's (and it's not even lvl 3!).
So what you're saying is its worth it to get a shield that blocks 20-30% of 1 adc's crit? or 15-25% of one APC's spell?
Or.. you could catch them sherlias and kill them because death is the best CC
In the middle of a fight when neither side is chasing the other, Shurelia's isn't much use.
Relic shield is the only support item I like to fully upgrade.
MRW Thresh Support fks up the Cannon Minion...
Especially when they forget Thresh is ranged, and therefore cannot execute...
Ironic, considering he's a warden.
If your ADC does more damage than your sub-200 execute, they are farmed enough that you don't need to worry about whether or not you get to use Relic charges.
If your ADC does more damage than your sub-200 execute, they are farmed enough that you don't need to worry about whether or not you get to use Relic charges.
ADC's are ranged, while supports with Relic Shield/Targon's Brace/Face of the Mountain are usually melee(discounting Thresh, who still has less range if memory serves). Meaning, they have to first walk up and then wait to autoattack it with that usually-low support attack speed while the ADC kills it before you even have the chance to click it.
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Really? try last hitting with nautilus laning with a kallista+ ruunans.
If you can't use a charge against one of the lowest up-front damage ADC's there is, I still have no sympathy for you. Kalista with Runaan's only does damage if she Rends.
She always rends. That's how most kallistas last hit with ruunans. -.-;
Boards: It executes for like 200 so if you can't get it that's your fault
(and others): LOL
Go ahead. Attack anything you want.
I still get the credit.
Once you're done farming for me. I plan to go and 1v3 them under tower; you're coming with whether you like it or not.
(Disclaimer: I really don't like Kalista.)
I don't think you know how kalista actually works if you hate having that champ on your team you're kinda being obnoxious. Anyone like me who plays usually melee's understands how completely fucking retarded that champion is to play against.
I play mostly supports. Believe me, I know how obnoxious she is. Tanks are useless (exception Taric) since they can't get close to her. Skill shots are useless since she can jump 5 times in any random direction before Nami's bubble can land. Slows and silences are useless, since they don't affect her passive. Her damage comes primarily from her Rend mid-to-late game, so shields don't mean much. And a good Kali can just undo any bad engagement their support makes, or save them after a peel.
Playing with her: You have that W passive that steals your AA's (and targon's). [Lets never mind why it does a whopping 20% max health at max rank!?] And you have that ult, which means you're at her beck and call when ever she chooses; no matter what you're doing.
And the coup de grace: her insane objective control. Why Riot? Just. Why?
I don't like supporting Kalista. I don't like playing against Kalista. I don't like Jungling against Kalista.
I. DON'T. LIKE. KALISTA.
She ruins the game for 5 people. Does the job of 3.
that ult is made so you can engage. And then escape and start another fight again in a few seconds with your team regrouped on a new target. That is exactly how to use her ultimate. In no other way is her ultimate better used.
Like I said, you don't understand how to play with or against her. She's broken as shit on just a base stats+kit level But when you actually apply it gameplay theres just no way to deal with a kallista correctly. Because riot has yet to add a mechanic that reduces the range gap closers can travel when you CC them or something. Like idk. A slow reducing gap closer distance or something to add utility to less mobile champs in the game without breaking the fuck out of them.
Something. Until then mobility creeps will be disgusting rampart offenders of everything you loved.
Like I said, you don't understand how to play with or against her.
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But when you actually apply it gameplay theres just no way to deal with a kallista correctly.
I understand Kalista. I understand how to play with and against her. But as you pointed out, there's no correct way to deal with her.