"Zyra... what are you doing?"

ADepressedLeona··24 votes·4,381 views

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Zyra : "What? You looked lonely"

Diana : "I am not lonely..."

Zyra : "Why are you in the rain? Could you not at least be lonely in doors?"

Diana : "I'll be lonely wherever I damn well ple-.. I'M NOT LONELY!"

Zyra : "Not lonely hmm?"

Diana : Blushes "Whatever... isn't too much water bad for plants?"

Zyra : "It hasn't rained in three days, Diana."

Diana : "I'M NOT A PLANT SCIENTIST!"

Zyra : "Clearly~, anyways. I'm gonna sit here with you"

Diana : "But... I want to-"

Zyra : Hug

Diana : Blushes Fine... but it's n-not like I want you to.. or anything (b-baka..)

68 Comments

TSwift Is Sexy26 votes

What is with this communities weird of obsession with making all their characters lesbian?

JayHog19924 votes

Not any less pleasing for people to make characters gay. Seen my share as well, sadly...

TNHA Baritone9 votes

As a straight male, the champions are always considered to be heterosexual or asexual. I think the game needs more diversity and the community contribute to that.

TSwift Is Sexy12 votes

As a League player, I see no link to how sexual preference plays into the game.

TNHA Baritone5 votes

Sexuality is one of the most essential concepts to life. Riot tries its best to let us into the life of champions and the community creates the sexual side of them, though not all.

TSwift Is Sexy5 votes

Sexuality is one of the most essential concepts to life.

Then why is there a huge uproar from the League community when a girl shows cleavage?

"omg rito setting such unrealistic standards"...or is that not how creativity works?

My Waifu Vanilla2 votes

Or on the opposite spectrum when Taliyah actually looked like a "real" human being and people threw a fit.

TSwift Is Sexy2 votes

The only complaints I've personally seen about Taliyah were her eyebrows. And to be fair, those things aren't exactly "real", as I've never seen anyone with eyebrows that large.

Vistha Kai1 votes

There was that one guy who uncovered something far more ominous about Taliyah's face than eyebrows.

Her nose bridge is completely flat.

Duke Anax1 votes

To be honest I'm stillsceptical on the "real" part. I haven't seen actualy humans with a facial structure like that.

kile1472 votes

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Then why is there a huge uproar from the League community when a girl shows cleavage?

"omg rito setting such unrealistic standards"...or is that not how creativity works?

Because the gaming community has a long history of needlessly objectifying women. A lot of female characters' entire identity is either an excuse to show cleavage or completely forsaken for sexualization. I don't think that is something Riot is necessarily guilty of, but the fact that the history is there means people tend to be very watchful for sexualization of female characters without always thinking of the purpose behind it. Someone awhile back made a post listing female characters in the game and categorizing them by how sexualized they are and how in character it is.

As a quick example Ahri being sexualized is not only acceptable but kind of needed to fit her character, whereas Cait wearing a short dress that she busts out of the top of is not at all fitting to her character and is actually completely impractical for police work. It's also important to note that if every character has some gimmick that's used as an excuse to sexualize them then the whole game suffers from lack of originality and from being very one dimensionally fanservice-y.

MealReadytoEat3 votes

On the other hand, we require no justification for Jayce 's chiseled jaw line and subscription to every single most eligible bachelor stereotype there is. For god's sake, Gangplank wears a codpiece.

Every (human) male character in lol is sexualized and/or a parody of sexualization, but no one cares, while the mainstream view of internet feminists is to call seductress the only appropriate place for sexualization in female characters.

Because clearly all attractive women are whores, and feminine charm exists only to prey on men.

Women need no more justification for their breast size and clothing choices than men do, and they don't need any more protection from unrealistic representations than men do.

That being said, good character design is congruent between appearances, personality, and practicality, which I'll agree isn't as strong as it should be on female characters more often than male.

Redesignated5 votes

You're right, it's neither less pleasing nor more pleasing! And neither should be shunned purely because they don't align with the very blatant and improper presumption that every champion in the League is strictly heterosexual, or that harmless creativity should align with that viewpoint!

TSwift Is Sexy6 votes

Nobody is shunning anything. The point is that it doesn't matter...so why is everyone trying to force lesbos in everything? I mean ffs, everyone bitching that Disney should make Elsa gay. Why? What does it matter?

TNHA Baritone2 votes

No one is trying to force anything. People are trying to diversify the game and break the barriers that say that being different is wrong. Would it bother you if homosexuals on this Earth? It really shouldn't as you're yourself and no one is bothering you with it. You decided to click on this...no one forced you.

JayHog19924 votes

For starters, you might want to auto correct a few things.

Second, I don't mind gay stuff personaly. I have no issues about it.

Third, I thought it was just one of those posts about jokes with a pick alongside it. I got baited.

Spizzle90001 votes

Yes, but we can be under the presumption that only one or two male champions are gay or bi and one of the female characters are, because 2.2% of men are gay or bi, and 2.4% of women are lesbian or bi.

There are roughly 77 male champions who I imagine would have any concept of sexuality (I exclude champions such as Fiddlesticks, Blitz, and Nocturne or Bard), so, if Runeterra is anything like America, there's two gay or bi male champions. It's almost confirmed that one of them is Taric, and if there's another, I imagine it's Vladimir. I do not ship these two.

There are around 41 female champions who I believe would have a concept of sexuality (champions excluded would be Orianna, Kindred, Soraka, and the like). That means there would be one lesbian or bi character. It's likely Vi or Diana, perhaps both. It would vary from the statistics (unsurprising, as this is a fantasy world), but I could also see Elise or Evelynn being bi.

So yeah, that's why I presume an enormous majority of League's champions are straight.

Redesignated1 votes

Late response because replies were weirded-out for me for a bit.

You realize those statistics are heavily, heavily biased with how homophobic a massive amount of the world is, right? A good few countries outright kill non-heterosexuals, and the U.S. is far from a perfect place to be for them either. Until that's no longer the case, trying to go, "Oh, there's only this few people in the game that can be gay, because statistics" is a terrible argument.

Moreover, this guy is complaining about fanart depicting non-canon relationships. There's not even the outright statement that this relationship is sexual, he's drawing that out of the fact that they're presented as being close and it ends on a meme.

Spizzle90001 votes

Actually, I used statistics based upon the USA's levels of homo- and bisexuality, a country in which no one kills homosexuals just because of their sexual orientation. The US is quite literally the best and safest place for homosexuals in the world at the moment.

Also, it's a perfectly reasonable argument, if we assume that Runeterra is similar to the United States in terms of what percentage of the population is homo- or bisexual. It's a very safe assumption that the overwhelming majority of humanity is heterosexual because our species needs to reproduce, and homosexuals aren't inclined to have offspring. So, even if the statistics are off, I'd say there's a maximum of 3-4% of people being homosexual.

Also, I don't think questioning why people have an obsession with making homosexual relationships in fanart is complaining, nor homophobic. I don't imagine the fellow is referring specifically to this piece of art, but rather this, and entire legions of similar pictures.

Redesignated1 votes

Actually, I used statistics based upon the USA's levels of homo- and bisexuality, a country in which no one kills homosexuals just because of their sexual orientation. The US is quite literally the best and safest place for homosexuals in the world at the moment.

A recent event in Orlando, Florida begs to differ. As does most any country that typically gets lumped into "the South." As does the sheer volume of people that are still closeted for their own safety, and the handful that manage to come out without repressing themselves into depression. There are so many hate crimes and so much flagrant discrimination on a daily basis in the U.S. that I question if you actually live in it, or if you're specifically in one of the areas that's as pro-equality as possible and don't understand the scope of the country.

Also, it's a perfectly reasonable argument, if we assume that Runeterra is similar to the United States in terms of what percentage of the population is homo- or bisexual

We have no reason to assume that Runeterra is similar to the United States in that regard at all. Why specifically the U.S., even? The game world has talking fish people, magic that creates and combines life, and entities that came out of nowhere; at this point, I don't think sexual reproduction is even much of a requirement to reproduce anymore.

Also, I don't think questioning why people have an obsession with making homosexual relationships in fanart is complaining, nor homophobic. I don't imagine the fellow is referring specifically to this piece of art, but rather this, and entire legions of similar pictures.

To quote him:

Nobody is shunning anything. The point is that it doesn't matter...so why is everyone trying to force lesbos in everything?

His entire demeanor was homophobic in everything he said, from questioning specifically non-heterosexual non-canon pairings vs. non-canon pairings as a whole, to saying that "sexuality doesn't matter" while somehow still maintaining the position that showing sexuality as being more than just male-female is somehow disagreeable. He doesn't get that you can't say claim "it doesn't matter" while decrying its depiction in the same breath, without being a massive hypocrite and flagrant bigot, in this case.

Why specifically question lesbian and gay fan couples that have barely any possibility, as opposed to illogical fan couples entirely? Why target that specific group as if it's somehow more outlandish than the notion of Brand falling for Lissandra? Because of flawed statistics that are wholly inaccurate, which is something accepted and recognized by any credible source? That defense is so flimsy it couldn't even support slice of bread.

Spizzle90001 votes

Yes, I'm aware of that awful massacre. But the fact is, gays are murdered on sight in many parts of Africa (if they know you're gay. I'm aware that you generally cannot just pick gays out in a crowd unless they wear a shirt that says they're gay), in the Middle East it's punishable by awful death, lots of Asia looks down upon homosexuality, and Europe is flooded with refugees that are from a region where homosexuality is punishable by death, so. . .

Basically, if you were gay, where would you want to live? I know that there's still plenty of violent acts towards homosexuals in America, but it's one of the best place for homosexuals to live currently. And, as I live in Ohio, it's pretty calm up here. In the deep South, it's pretty messy, yeah. But it's better than a guarantee that if you're even accused of homosexuality, you get stoned.

Why did I use the US for these statistics? Well, that's what was easiest to find on the internet and is probably one of the better countries to base these stats off of, although Europe could work. I don't see why America would have any fewer homosexuals than the rest of the world; if anything, you'd think homosexuals would be more likely to immigrate in order to avoid death in many parts.

While it's obviously not something that's discussed in the lore, I think it's very safe to assume that if the majority didn't need to reproduce in Runeterra, there would be neither sexually dimorphic species, nor would there be sexuality at all.

That entire comment is basically stating that no one's saying homosexuality is wrong, that sexuality has no impact on the game and doesn't matter from that perspective, and then is asking why people find it necessary to make so many homosexual pairings. People were talking about adding diversity and the like into LoL and he's saying that sexuality's not important in the game so why are people worrying about it and trying to diversify it? Basically, he thinks it's silly that people are trying to diversify LoL in aspects which don't impact the game.

And I've never seen Brand and Lissandra shipped, although I'm not a part of the armada of shippers. That makes sense because opposites attract and it's two seemingly opposites, similar to Romeo and Juliet, the West Side Story, and Leona and Diana.

Also, what do you mean by the second to last sentence of your reply to me, specifically the, "which is something accepted and recognized by any credible source?" bit. Do plenty of sources say that the rate of homosexuality is far greater than that? Because I just went to http://www.indiana.edu/~kinsey/resources/bib-homoprev.html andhttp://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/research/census-lgbt-demographics-studies/how-many-people-are-lesbian-gay-bisexual-and-transgender/ and http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-05-22/americans-vastly-overestimate-size-of-lgbt-population and they give estimates which are relatively close to what i said.

Redesignated1 votes

I dunno, what's with your browser history? Fizz

TSwift Is Sexy2 votes

What about it?

JayHog19921 votes

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Have I told you that I like yordles?

Vistha Kai1 votes

Khazix I like them too.

Dextix LT2 votes

Because the shipping community will ship ANYONE with ANYONE. So calm down. Its just normal. For every lesbian/gay pairing there is a straight pairing.

Hell, for every diana/leona picture i have seen just as many pantheon/leona pictures.

Just enjoy the shipping. I am a fan of Leona/Diana shipping tho, dont see how zyra goes with diana, with leona maybe, not with diana.

Angry Monster2 votes

I dont even get the shipping thing, but i also do not get memes either. Internet cultural is just too strange.

Dextix LT2 votes

IT doesnt need to be get or understood. Just accept it.

Angry Monster2 votes

disagree, I refuse to accept things cause they are things, I will tolerate them until give a reason not to though

Tolerate does not equal accept

kile1472 votes

I mean it's not unique to this community. Literally everyone does this to everything. To take your name for example look up Taylor Swift X Karlie Kloss.

Linna Excel2 votes

Maybe riot should just delete or genderswap all the male characters into females to make the community happen.

Garenette: this highly armored ballerina spins to win

Malicious Metal8 votes

I'll get a lawnmower.

TNHA Baritone1 votes

I'll get the death star

Squidsmastah1 votes

I'll get the pain train

Vistha Kai1 votes

I'll get Sion.

Squidsmastah1 votes

I'll make sure no stone is unbroken.

Princess Emma6 votes

These ships, trains, cars, planes, bicycles, motorcycles, carts, horses, mules, air-ships, teleportation devices, mopeds, trucks, tanks, jets, boats, and grizzly bears must stop.

Skelenth5 votes

Especially the Grizzly Bears

IGotScuttleCrabs2 votes

I'm more worried about the mopeds

Jungle Lux God1 votes

Volibear U Wot m8?

Skelenth1 votes

Back in my days we wouldn't have let an armored bear into the League

Lord Galvatron2 votes

They didn't exactly let him into the League to begin with.

"Where does an 800-lb. Gorilla Giant polar bear that shoots lightning from it's hands sit?"

The answer:

"Anywhere it wants to."

Skelenth1 votes

Voli going where he pleases

Lord Galvatron1 votes

Do you know who else goes where he pleases?

Squidsmastah2 votes

MY MOM

Proceeds to take off shirt and swing it around

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