So the People Wanted A Marksman or Support For the New Champion....

Avios1·Apr 4, 2017·283 votes·6,903 views

I guess you could say they killed two birds with one stone...

I'll get the window.

56 Comments

Mira Arya EntheApr 4, 201751 votes

Take a Gander at this Fowlplay

a random hoeApr 5, 20172 votes

lol

TyrekGoldenspearApr 5, 20177 votes

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

That hurt to read.

[zombie-brand-clap]

Take your upvote and get out.

Jeddy017Apr 4, 201738 votes

So the new champs got ulted by full AP Malphite?

TPA Jason123Apr 4, 20172 votes

Yes

LittleFifeKnightApr 5, 20172 votes

Nice wp lol

Tentacle LoveApr 5, 20172 votes

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So the new champs got ulted by full AP Malphite?

Kalista/Malphite bot lane counter confirmed.

silvercrescentliApr 5, 20178 votes

Rakan is gonna get ulted since he's so centered on Xayah, but Xayah's just gonna ult invulnerable and welp talk about one sided relationships...

BorblandApr 4, 201718 votes

Galio : "Have you met my parents ?"

LyndrisApr 5, 20173 votes

OMG I WISH I HAD A GALIO MEME!!! I actually LOL'd thank you two i needed this thread <3

JVP15Apr 4, 20178 votes

You horrible horrible person.

Take my upvote.

Bad DragonApr 4, 20177 votes

Beautiful.

And awful.

...I hate you.

......Take my upvote.

NymzoApr 4, 20174 votes

Old Galio approves this joke

Boop Daddy Apr 5, 20174 votes

Defenestrate yourself.

Ultimate DeadpooApr 5, 20174 votes

God, that pun hurt.

Take my upvote, such horrible puns must be seen by more people, more people most suffer!!

KairoptraApr 5, 20174 votes

Not sure whether to upvote or downvote...

I am her RakanApr 5, 20172 votes

The best/worst puns make you do that.

ShockzzzzApr 4, 20173 votes

do you think xayah would be good mid or not? i just feel she plays like talon.

Faceroll TacticsApr 4, 201711 votes

She has little mobility, has no gap closer, and situational cc. She doesn't have anything a good mid would have minus waveclear

TimX24968BApr 4, 20171 votes

I feel like she would be similar to kalista, but less mobile

Whiteeye AvelynApr 4, 20172 votes

I've played her she is like kalista with better damage for the first burst

LittleFifeKnightApr 5, 201712 votes

Mid lane favors mobility and immobility. Mobility obviously because roaming mids ganking top or bot. Immobility isn't as much a disadvantage there because it's the shortest lane to walk up, and the gap between the first towers is shorter than the other lanes so it's easier to walk to safety. Also being at the center of the map makes it easier for your team to group with you even if you're slow.

A million years ago specifically having a slow champ mid was meta such as Anivia or Karthus (and I guess those champs still go there though they're not played as much as other mids), but it's true their cc is less situational than hers.

I'm not saying I think she'd be good mid but if she's bad there I don't think her immobility would be why.

Jeddy017Apr 5, 20175 votes

Most immobile champs who go mid also have wave clear ranging from decent to great. While they can't roam as well as assassins, they at least have pushing power.

LittleFifeKnightApr 5, 20173 votes

Yes and it looks like Xayah has great waveclear

coeurloyalApr 5, 20171 votes

Xayah's wave clear is _really _ high.

Faceroll TacticsApr 5, 20172 votes

It's more of bad mobility paired with situational cc that I don't think would make her great

The OasisApr 5, 20172 votes

I agree that her lack of mobility isn't why she would make a bad mid. Most of the other immobile mid laners have some other strength that helps prevent the middle of the map from becoming a pressure vacuum. Usually a global ult, high burst or reliable cc. I suppose we'll see what happens when she's relesed, but an adc in the early game with situational burst (i.e. takes time to set up) and cc doesn't sound like the greatest fit for a healthy team comp or early map pressure.

The DreamwalkerApr 5, 20172 votes

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She has little mobility, has no gap closer, and situational cc. She doesn't have anything a good mid would have minus waveclear

Syndra makes gapclosers cry. Her E just pushes them way, stuns, and then dead. :D Every mid laner is good in their own way. Non-mobile mids are probably the best counters to mobile mids. I mean, think about it.

Annie counters - Zed

Orianna counters - Akali

Lux counters - Azir

Syndra counters - Katarina

I know these examples have cc. But, some MID lanes don't need that to be good. I was mainly posting to show that you don't need mobility or gap closers to be good.

Faceroll TacticsApr 5, 20173 votes

I admit the context on my post was faulty.

Every good mid as waveclear in some form. Usually they have another strength, mobility, a gap closer, burst damage, or crowd control. Your examples substitute mobility for crowd control and burst damage. Xayah just has wave clear and minimal mobility and very situational cc. For this I don't think she will be good unless she has completely busted numbers.

And of course, Ekko had everything and busted numbers, he should've never been released.

The DreamwalkerApr 5, 20171 votes

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I admit the context on my post was faulty.

Every good mid as waveclear in some form. Usually they have another strength, mobility, a gap closer, burst damage, or crowd control. Your examples substitute mobility for crowd control and burst damage. Xayah just has wave clear and minimal mobility and very situational cc. For this I don't think she will be good unless she has completely busted numbers.

And of course, Ekko had everything and busted numbers, he should've never been released.

Ah, I see. Now I can agree with you. I got offended when you said something about them needing gap closers because I play mainly bursty mids such as ones I listed.

TerozuApr 7, 20171 votes

Syndra and Ori need to be switched, Kat can avoid syndra with shunpo way to easy.

The DreamwalkerApr 7, 20171 votes

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Syndra and Ori need to be switched, Kat can avoid syndra with shunpo way to easy.

That's your opinion, not mine. Also, if / when Kat goes to ult, Syndra just Q + E + R = dead Kat. I just find Kat incredibly easy to kill when I play Syndra.

TerozuApr 7, 20171 votes

A not braindead kat won't go in until you use your volley, then you can't do anything, is she does initiate before then, she isn't a good kat player, in response you'll say, you'll save your e, but kat can blink in and out before you can combo stun her thx to her e's reset, in comparison, Orianna has a shield, for sustain and to block poke, a large aoe grab she can afford to save until kat decides to full combo, stronger auto attacks, and more accurate burst dmg.~~~~~~~~

The DreamwalkerApr 7, 20171 votes

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A not braindead kat won't go in until you use your volley, then you can't do anything, is she does initiate before then, she isn't a good kat player, in response you'll say, you'll save your e, but kat can blink in and out before you can combo stun her thx to her e's reset, in comparison, Orianna has a shield, for sustain and to block poke, a large aoe grab she can afford to save until kat decides to full combo, stronger auto attacks, and more accurate burst dmg.~~~~~~~~

Okay? I just think that Orianna isn't the good choice, Syndra is. Also, not really about the Shunpo thing. Kats are kinda predictable with where they will Shunpo to. Also, Syndra just drops her orbs on Kat's daggers and then there is risk for Kat. As for the shield, just take barrier. Syndra is a powerhouse who doesn't really need the help of ignite.

Also, if Orianna misses her (which can happen) she just has a shield. At least Syndra's E has a smaller cool down than that.

I see your points, but I am not convinced that Orianna is the better choice.

coeurloyalApr 5, 20173 votes

I think there's a slew of factors that keeps her from being a good mid pick.

Yes, mobility is an issue. There's a reason nobody plays immobile mids anymore. Successful mids that are immobile have instant or near-instant CC that's reliable and easy to hit. With the Talon/ Ekko/ Fizz/ Kassadin/ etc. champs running around mid, there's too much threat from a 2v1 all-in in most cases.
Having an AD mid is somewhat limiting to the comp because AP threats are fairly limited in other lanes. Obviously it's a minor problem, but it is a limiting consideration.
Xayah scales on crit, which means she will lose to a mid 1v1 9 times out of 10 in the early game. Her purchase path is drastically more expensive than that of traditional mids and lacks the early burst pattern to compensate for it.
Because she has telegraphed CC, she doesn't have much kill pressure early without additional assistance.
She has no roaming potential. If she left her lane as a mid, she would be dead the moment she gets caught in the jungle. She can't move anywhere by herself, and good mid picks should be able to make plays independent of the jungler or support.

That being said, she defintely doesn't play like Talon. Talon skirts fights until he can all-in a target and dive. Xayah wants to be there early and set up zone control, much like Azir. She wants the enemy to come to her and lay down consistent poke without leaving the fight; Talon wants to go to the enemy and hit the back line while jumping in and out of combat.

ValuslupiApr 5, 20173 votes

Birdperson is back from the grave!!

No, but when do these champs actually release?

SlowRoastedPorosApr 5, 20171 votes

First skin: Phoenixperson

ExcusemeFellowsApr 5, 20173 votes

Do you have wings? Maybe you can fly out the window.

MysteriousBootieApr 4, 20172 votes

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Calintz6565Apr 5, 20172 votes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHoNWwhzh3M

XxDottisJayzunxXApr 7, 20172 votes

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LuniceMoonKittyApr 5, 20171 votes

So who wins battle of the Face Marks, Xayah or Ahri? :thinking:

coeurloyalApr 6, 20171 votes

We do, MoonKitty. We win.

KerzoohApr 5, 20171 votes

It would be funny if malphite did indeed ult into the duo bot xD

psuedo metaApr 5, 20171 votes

calling it right now that the best way to play this pair, is with rakan as the bruiser apc. Bot>mid>top

while Xayah jungles.

And focuses most of the ganks on the lane rakan is in.

coeurloyalApr 5, 20171 votes

No chance. Xayah is way too squishy to survive the jungle. She only has 600 hp and has no baked in healing. Also, if she were to be invaded she would be obliterated. Her jungle potential is awful.

Rakan I can see the potential for in any lane, though. His AP scaling is relatively high across the board; I could see him playing somewhat bruiser-ish.

Asayake 5150glowApr 5, 20171 votes

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No chance. Xayah is way too squishy to survive the jungle. She only has 600 hp and has no baked in healing. Also, if she were to be invaded she would be obliterated. Her jungle potential is awful.

Rakan I can see the potential for in any lane, though. His AP scaling is relatively high across the board; I could see him playing somewhat bruiser-ish.

Holy shit, 600 hp is a ton.

Did you miswrite that?

coeurloyalApr 6, 20171 votes

I did. She's got 545 hp with no lifesteal; I think most junglers are just a bit under 600 with built-in sustain. Crit scaling is going to slow down her viability quite a bit, too.