Top Lane is an Island

AFK Push··86 votes·11,904 views

I guess I'll splitpush then...

78 Comments

Chortle41 votes

When you finally leave top lane

ThatAutofillSupp5 votes

that picture T_T too adorable…can't resist….must…like

Yoella29 votes

THIS. Holy crap. Since the new Dragon changes I've often gone entire laning phases without anybody from my team so much as pinging my toplane. Mid and bot will be in 4v4 teamfights before midgame and I'll still be up top trading blows with my fellow castaway... I get hopeful when the jungler enters the nearby jungle but alas, he's only there for Bluebuff then off to bot he goes...

GoldenLeSpoink2 votes

This is so true, I was in a game where all my enemy top and I just CS'd because of the 4v4 fights happening near dragon every 5-7 minutes xD

SEKAI16 votes

DW, you still have a soul mate who got stuck there with you.

So just try to get along with him, instead of, hmmm trying to bash each other's head in.

AFK Push29 votes

DW, you still have a soul mate who got stuck there with you.

So just try to get along with him, instead of, hmmm trying to bash each other's head in.

Wilson keeps trying to kill me, I can't sleep at night.

jhlee01332 votes

Lol he keeps poking you i'm guessing.

A Bad Ahri3 votes

DW, you still have a soul mate who got stuck there with you.

So just try to get along with him, instead of, hmmm trying to bash each other's head in.

I did this once. WW vs Nasus.

We lost.

(The entire enemy team was once up in my lane, we all danced while my team tried to push. It was hilarious)

OblongOtter2 votes

I've been Morde top against a bunch of golds. They came top and dove me over and over, at one point giving me a triple kill. By the time laning phase was over, I was fed from all their dives, bot was doing well from being left alone while having our jungler gank, and we had 2 or 3 dragons.

A Bad Ahri2 votes

I've been Morde top against a bunch of golds. They came top and dove me over and over, at one point giving me a triple kill. By the time laning phase was over, I was fed from all their dives, bot was doing well from being left alone while having our jungler gank, and we had 2 or 3 dragons.

While this isn't top, I just want to point out how overpowered Mordekaiser actually is. Despite his lack of any cc, I played him mid and ended up against a Ziggs . I failed to connect early and when I got in game the Ziggs had a two-three level advantage. I got level 2, and both he and their jungler tried to dive me. I got away with about 20 hp and a double (which scaled me into late game). By the end of the game, I was unkillable and could burst just about anyone with my q+e.

But yeah, it's kinda funny how top lane is. If I jungle, I actually gank top just as much as my other lanes if I have to. Example: Warwick Top is trying to kill my top laner, I'll probably gank (depending on who I'm playing. Rengar for example.)

TheRainInSpain10 votes

Top lane is an island because of two reasons.

  1. The community itself came up with the basic league meta* and top became an island by default. Baron is a late game buff for pushing through turtle tower huggers.

  2. Riot made Dragon very important. Baron simply cannot be obtained in mid game without huge risk of being wiped and it stolen.

*The meta being 1 Top (typically a melee bruiser or tank), 1 Mid (typically an AP scaling mage or an AD assassin), 1 Jungle (almost always melee and usually something with innate sustain aka Warwick), 1 Ranged AD carry and 1 Healer or Initiator Tank Support Bot. It has been the grand overriding meta since the end of Season 1 Worlds. Every other "meta" defaults back to this one time and time again.

The only solution I can see without completely remaking Summoners-Are-Not-Canon-Despite-Champions-Addressing-YOU-As-Summoner's Rift, is to make Baron easier to obtain in the mid game. Differentiating Baron and Dragon's buffs for two different purposes is key. Baron is for pushing down towers and breaking turtlers. Dragon should be for map control and general battling. A team should be able to focus on grabbing an early Baron (before even the first towers going down) to make major split pushing pushes, or focus on getting Dragon and being better in battle.

So it's like comparing Teemo to Volibear. Teemo is a fantastic split pusher, and a team built around pushing, escaping, and misleading would go for Baron. A team that wants to fight (in particular the wombo combo groups) should as those that include Volibear, would rather focus on taking and retaking Dragon so that can have better chances of beating their opponent in duels and team fights.

However, both sides are forced to ward and defend each monster in case their opponent goes and takes it, requiring people to be around the top lane in the early to mid game, rather than late game Baron grabs. You do NOT want Teemo or any major split pusher to get a major boon in pushing. Especially if his lane opponent is just atrocious at countering pushes (such as trying to get Shen to push).

Zariem6 votes

This is true. I main top lane, and the only time I see my Jungler is when I'm saving them from an invade that went wrong. Oh, I also see them on the notifications every so often.

"Executed"

Though, I see a lot of the enemy Jungler.

Fluppets6 votes

Im a jungle main and I've been ignoring top lane for some time.

Main reasons are dragon, but mostly ADC's being so OP in the past few months, they just skip right past mid-game with IE + Shyv. At level 3 chances are Top lane is warded, while bot lane isnt because they dont expect it.

This might sound weird, but nerfing Statik Shyv should fix alot of issues, including top lane being an island. Why? It allows any adc to push waves as good or better than a AOE mage and on top of that kills turrets like, well... an ADC.

What does this mean for top lane? ADC's control their lane alot more and are pushing turrets much faster > laning phase ends sooner. Why should I invest in a top lane in the hopes he can carry us through mid-game when an ADC can be at his Late-game at the same time, while pushing towers and securing dragons.

I dont feel sorry for you though.

Stephenizgod2 votes

The problem comes when Top lane is getting constantly dived by Top and Jungler (sometimes even mid). There isnt anything they can do about it, other then not coming to lane, and end up just feeding. Now this isnt much of a problem if Top lane is just a tank and your ADC is fed, but what if the assassin Jungler is getting fed? Now they are fed and are killing your ADC over and over again leaving their ADC free to just steamroll over your team.

Gank Top regularly? Nah pointless, you are right ADC is much more important also Dragon control. The least that you can do is counter-gank every once in a while, just so they are not feeding (plus it is seriously not fun to be left alone against 2-3 people all the time). Also if your ADC isnt very good and isnt getting fed, you just sacrificed a lane (who is feeding unintentionally; trying their best not to die) for a worthless walking free kill. I only say this because, as a top main, this happens to me all to often. Im sacrificed for the ADC who then turns out to be completely incompetent in every way possible.

I do agree with you, ADC + Dragon is just too important and going Top risks the loss of both. Although, if you see the enemy Jung top then im sure its safe to say Drag isnt going to be stolen, and if your ADC cant handle 20-30sec without you then maybe they arnt worth it anyways.

Toa of Death6 votes

We Top Laners must stop fighting and just farm. let's face it, the only people we're going to be killing are each other. Might as well sit back, farm, and laugh at our two teams as they fight over dragon for the 10th time.

Unexisted5 votes

Cuz the jungler is lost in the jungle.

Peel Your ADC4 votes

Last pick an ascended.

Let the other lanes fight their silly little battles.

Let the enemy top try and teleport to siege a tiny bit more.

But every 3-6 seconds (depending on how hardcore your rune page is), you take a step closer to winning the war. Nasus

OblongOtter2 votes

An ascended includes Azir Renekton andXerath

Nicktoons1 votes

Mind going into detail explain what an ascended is?

OblongOtter2 votes

It was some sort of ritual in Shurima that turned people who were royal/friends of royalty into weird animal creatures. Xerath's got messed up (since he wasn't supposed to be ascended and greedily stole it.)

Gunpoint4 votes

An ascended includes Azir Renekton andXerath

Nasus

Ariel the Cruel4 votes

Lissandra This is but a battle. We have already won the war.

Sooko2 votes

Tanks can't carry :(

Gettomagic4 votes

lol says le Riven tank and le Susan Nasus tank.... lel

Sooko5 votes

True about Nasus, but a Riven that builds tank is not really a good Riven (being that the reason that she now prefers to go mid to kill squishies)

Rinky Dinky1 votes

Darius would like to have a word with you.

Sooko4 votes

"Darius is not primarily a tank and should NOT be the first to initiate."

Phreak

Rinky Dinky3 votes

Rest in Peace me.

tau432 votes

I like being an islander top. It has its lonely moments sure, but when you're up against someone that is just as good as you are the island is fantastic.

Stephenizgod2 votes

This only seems to be true for my team! I will get ganked like 20 times, but my jungler is no where to be seen like ever... Half the time no one even bothers pinging MIA if they know their lane is coming top, its like "Hmmm where are they going? Top? I should ping... oh well they will figure it out eventually ill just head bot lane for no reason as an excuse". Then everyone is mad at you for feeding Top, Jungle, and Mid... Well im sorry there is always 3 people diving me, should i just not come to lane anymore? want me to just peace out? what do you guys want?? WHY IS NO ONE COMING TOP TO HELP ME?!?

Rikari2 votes

One of the few benefits of top lane is that you can get fed without worrying about a jungler (in high elo),however if they do come they likely took the dragon already. Only way top could matter is if Baron hp and boosts were nerfed and dragon buffed,cuz really dragon has 3-4 people who can take it,sometimes it can be solo'd too.

Harbard1 votes

Don't worry, just had a game where a Warwick decides he doesn't have an Ulti and forget about top that's being camped by an Udyr. The game blame then goes to me :/

Ariel the Cruel2 votes

To be fair. If he's snowballing bot lane in turn, that's a more than fair trade. Since your team is trading 1 champion for 2 + dragon control.

Fluppets2 votes

This.

When a top laner starts QQ'ing I just say something in the lines of; you're doing great, its ok, our ADC is fed and we just got dragon, I invaded his blue etc.

redniwediS1 votes

I always like when I get ahead in top lane for this very reason. The transition from "top lane is a lonely island" to "this place, it is my domain!" is far too fun.

OyddAWqJ5r2 votes

But then it's not so fun on your off games it transitions into "My tower will protect me right?... right?!"

Reprom1 votes

I didnt get it. why shoud i canp top. for one idiot that cant play alone? Then wtf u are playnig top lane!

AFK Push1 votes

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I didnt get it. why shoud i canp top. for one idiot that cant play alone? Then wtf u are playnig top lane!

Top lane gives the most isolationist feeling of all of the roles, especially after the preseason changes which encourage jungle to camp bot and mid due to how important dragon is. Which is why in most of my games as top lane I am lucky to see one gank, and is also encouraging splitpushing and the tp meta even more.

Reprom1 votes

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Top lane gives the most isolationist feeling of all of the roles, especially after the preseason changes which encourage jungle to camp bot and mid due to how important dragon is. Which is why in most of my games as top lane I am lucky to see one gank, and is also encouraging splitpushing and the tp meta even more.

Exacly. That how top lane works. So dont ask for gangs, top.

Also, why the f**k I am on NA boards and why I can post comments on NA boards? I just realised. Is that normal of bug?

Vistha Kai1 votes

No, it's not a bug. It's a feature. You can write on all serwer boards.

Reprom1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Vistha Kai,realm=EUNE,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=H6uTZYLJ,comment-id=0021000000000000,timestamp=2015-02-21T22:08:08.833+0000)

No, it's not a bug. It's a feature. You can write on all serwer boards.

cause sometimes i cant and sometimes i can. why? i have no f*****g idea.

Vistha Kai1 votes

Sometimes the boards will change your choice of server if you stay idle(?) or open other threads.

So the boards will default to NA on which you don't have an account. Just scroll top and change server to EUNE, even if it's already EUNE.

Embertine1 votes

The only thing as bad as this, is when your jungler actually wont stop coming top and keeps dying to the other guy on lane. Feeding him and making him unstoppable in comparison to you.

Pandemic Punch1 votes

Always play as if you have no jungler rather than whining about it all of the time. This may motivate you to put down wards more often or play safer. If you take the path of warding, you don't only help yourself but you also help your team significantly. If you buy one ward and it spots the enemy jungler, then you just helped your entire team.

AFK Push1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Lil Froobz,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=H6uTZYLJ,comment-id=0023,timestamp=2015-02-21T13:18:07.725+0000)

Always play as if you have no jungler rather than whining about it all of the time. This may motivate you to put down wards more often or play safer. If you take the path of warding, you don't only help yourself but you also help your team significantly. If you buy one ward and it spots the enemy jungler, then you just helped your entire team.

I'm not whining, it's a fact that junglers barely ever gank top anymore. BTW I ward almost as much as a support does, and play very safe soooooooo I don't see your point here.

Pandemic Punch1 votes

It is not a fact. If it was then where are the facts or numbers to back it up? If you were to use, "It being a fact" to refute my point about you whining, then you may want to find a different angle to defend yourself there. Many of the top players actually prefer to only gank top and mid. In solo queue they tend to leave bottom lane alone due to the difficulty of ganking that lane. If you play exactly as you say you do then I imagine you win most of your games anyways. "Soooooooooooooooo" I don't see your point in posting this thread in the first place. 0_0

LitoJ1 votes

It's humorous because all these top-lane complaints are what made me main Rumble in mid-lane instead for 2 seasons straight, so now I can play him in either lane without major problems.

Good Player 1091 votes

30 mins in.... JUNGLER: i just realized i didnt gank top at all xD TOP LANER: whats a gank? seriously i hear people talking about it all the time

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