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Valeckserai61 votes

Lol. One game I was first pick and locked in Karthus. Their team proceeded to pick these idiots:

Top:Tryndamere Jungle:Kindred
Mid:Leblanc Support:Soraka ADC:Sivir

I did not have fun that game.

heterosexual DIE13 votes

Death is for the weaks.

: ^)

dunkeroni9 votes

At least it wasn't Ekko mid

Spartan117104 votes

Wait why lb? Is it because insta kill?

Jonxx7 votes

Because she one shot him and use 2nd w activation to get out of his range when he's dead.

Spartan117102 votes

Ah, I get it.

Señor Karthus6 votes

I'm Karthus main and LB is the absolute worst you can lane against.

Aeszarck3 votes

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I'm Karthus main and LB is the absolute worst you can lane against.

What about Katarina? That's one of the few lanes she does really well in because Karthus has no hard crowd control to stop her Death Lotus, she's really fast and can dodge his Lay Waste, he's bad at auto attack harassing her, and when she goes in and kills him, she can get out because her cooldowns refresh. Her Shunpo also gives her more resistance against Karthus's Requiem for a short time.

KoKoboto11 votes

Karthus has a hard time against all assassins

Aeszarck6 votes

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Karthus has a hard time against all assassins

Most of the middle lane champion pool loves laning against Karthus, really. He's got almost no kill pressure and he's really slow. I'm just thinking about which champion he's worst against.

Awoof1 votes

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Karthus has a hard time against all assassins

If I remember correctly there was a short period in competitive where he was used against Zed, so, there is that.

Señor Karthus1 votes

Honestly I can do better against Kat. At least I can kite her a little more and usually I can play so safe that even if I can't kill her, I don't allow her to kill me. the problem goes when people don't listen to the 1000 mias that I send every time she is missing because she will look for the kills she needs in bot or top lane... I absolutely can't do anything when I lane against a LB.

zaire901 votes

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What about Katarina? That's one of the few lanes she does really well in because Karthus has no hard crowd control to stop her Death Lotus, she's really fast and can dodge his Lay Waste, he's bad at auto attack harassing her, and when she goes in and kills him, she can get out because her cooldowns refresh. Her Shunpo also gives her more resistance against Karthus's Requiem for a short time.

its probably the only lane she has an advantage everyone else can shut her down early if she makes a mistake

Aeszarck1 votes

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its probably the only lane she has an advantage everyone else can shut her down early if she makes a mistake

It's not her only good lane. She's really good at dodging Anivia's stun with her instant blink and can do a good job harassing her and outroaming her. She's really good at beating Corki mid because he's got almost no hard crowd control to stop her ultimate. She's not that bad at fighting Ekko either. Ezreal mid is another easy lane for her. Galio mid is a super passive lane where she'll never get any kills but has tons of roam potential. She's also pretty decent against Lux, since she's squishy and doesn't have good ways of dealing with Katarina when she gets close enough. Swain is another nice lane for her, especially since her Death Lotus applies Grevious Wounds. Syndra is a bully, but Katarina is actually pretty decent against her because she's so good at abusing Syndra whenever she uses her Unleashed Power and it doesn't stun Katarina. Twisted Fate is another easy lane for Katarina. Veigar is another easy lane. Vel'Koz is all right. She counters Vladimir pretty well because he has no hard crowd control and she can apply Grevious Wounds. Ziggs is another good lane for her since he doesn't have good methods for dealing with close range opponents.

VazEzren1 votes

In my experience I have to say Swain is a HORRIBLE matchup for Katarina. 9 times out of 10 I bully Kats so hard they either afk or never come back into the lane and go camp bot or top while I take turrets and free farm/harass the enemy jungler. The few that choose to stay in lane end the game with so little farm and damage that they can't even blow up adcs.

I think the reason is most Swains I and other people see don't know how to bully with him, but Swain's early pressure is so absurd that melee champions can't even tower farm, actually Mordekaiser is a decent counter to Swain, but he's the only one I've ever had any trouble with. So if the person playing Swain knows how to actually play him then picking any melee champ into Swain is the worst thing you can do.

Also some of those other champions you listed are definitely skill matchups. If Veigar is good with dropping his stun he only needs to land it once and Kat is boned. Although maybe I'm just biased because Kat requires a lot more skill these days than just smashing your face on the keyboard and people in my elo don't seem to understand that(same applies for Riven). Everyone just remembers Kat from when she was op and could make entire teams disappear as soon as she hit lvl 6. Another thing I've noticed about Katarina is she has a lot of difficulty against people who know how to itemize, whenever I'm against one I typically rush magic resist and health which stalls her power out until she can buy a void staff or liandry's(which aren't really items she tends to rush). The thing about Kat is if you can survive her full combo then she can't do anything til her cooldowns come back up, but everyone likes to try and out burst her, which is a terrible idea that usually gets her fed.

Those are just my observations, and again I could just be biased by silver elo. Things may be different in higher ranks. -Vaz-

Spartan117102 votes

Katarina is always cancer

Aeszarck2 votes

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Katarina is always cancer

If that's how you think, then you should be very happy! They're reworking Katarina in a pretty big way to make sure that she's not "cancer" anymore!

Spartan117102 votes

:^]

Skaiserus1 votes

They're reworking her to be more of a high-risk-high-reward champion. She's not going to have much lane power, but still get some damage buffs including to her R. From a recent leak this is her new kit. Please, make sure you don't actually believe this as it could be fake.

Passive - Whenever you get an assist or kill for an enemy you damaged 3 seconds ago, your cooldowns are reduces by 15 seconds. Q - Throw daggers at 5 enemies, that can trigger for a bonus effect. This can only be activated by basic attacks and reset the cooldown of her E. W - Throw 3 daggers dealing damage, and vaulting backwards. E - A Blink that can only be done on champions or minions. After a short duration, Katarina spins in what can only be described as her old W, (Sinister Steel) dealing damage in an AOE. Does not have 15% damage reduction. R - Same as current R, only packed with more damage.

Whitedog3541 votes

Well when I play Karthus into Kat I do what I always do. qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq, oh I died, qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq r [slayer-jinx-wink]

Skaiserus1 votes

I misread your post. That's techically what Karthus does in most of his lanes. :P

Whitedog3541 votes

yes

Valeckserai1 votes

In my opinion, Katarina isn't that bad for Karthus. Its a simple matter of who gets ahead first that determines who wins lane. Since both of them are pure damage, whoever is leading in gold will almost always come out ahead. Especially if Karthus runs exhaust and uses it on her right when she ults, it doesn't matter that much that he has no hard cc, since he'll have defile and lay waste doing extra damage to her while she deals reduced damage to him. And since she's standing still, all of his lay wastes will be hitting her dead on. It really comes down to who has better cs, ganks, or who got a double kill off of bot first.

AFK Push1 votes

That's why you go top sometimes ;)

KirynDawn1 votes

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I'm Karthus main and LB is the absolute worst you can lane against.

froggen says karthus counters lb

MagikarpIsBoss1 votes

If he did say that, there is a pretty big difference between solo q and actual competitive play.

Valeckserai1 votes

LB is one of the harder lanes to go into as Karthus. Her early game is insane. Once she hits level 2 she's just going to be teleporting in on you and instantly jumping away. Since she teleports away so fast, defile does almost no damage to her. He can't really run away from her chains since he's imobile. Exhaust, Karthus' main defense against assassins, doesn't really work against LB because of how fast her burst is and she can just teleport back and wait to engage again when it wears off. Late game she's not as much of a problem, but laning against her is pure cancer.

Yosuke Apperu4 votes

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Lol. One game I was first pick and locked in Karthus. Their team proceeded to pick these idiots:

Top:Tryndamere Jungle:Kindred
Mid:Leblanc Support:Soraka ADC:Sivir

I did not have fun that game.

Hahaha, I'm sorry my friend that's quite ridiculous. I now know what I'm going to do If I ever see the enemy first pick karthus

oSEXYPLATYPUSo8 votes

i think i frustrate Fiddlesticks cuz ill pick Janna and wait for him to ult for me to ult

DarkRitual9 votes

Poppy support works too. Just send him right the fuck home with his crow bullshit.

Keepe4 votes

I got a better one for you. Nemesis Draft. They give YOU Karthus, and your allies THEN decide to give them Raka.

TogetherWeHunt1 votes

Well Bronze 5 players... I wouldn't be suprised if my team would do that. I mean, they managed to ban YASUO AND ZED in Nemesis draft and picked Aurelion Sol for the enemy team, sooooo...

Keepe1 votes

They did it to me. I was MISERABLE for the entire game. T^T

V2msRHouI02 votes

Does this even qualify as a fucking meme?

PaladinNO2 votes

Yep. As TyrekGoldenspear points out, it's official.

PaladinNO2 votes

Undead emote: "I'm dead, and I'm pissed!"

Yeah, I see the complication. I don't suppose a good book would help? item 3165

Unlife against a 'Raka is no dance with wine, women and bones for sure.

http://img.memecdn.com/the-game-of-bones_o_3098565.jpg

...Okay, I'll see myself out now.

https://www.tetongravity.com/images/ci-images/44817/fk-yeah-friday-x-photos-39.gif

Gamemaster Anth1 votes

I don't know. I'm pretty sure he's going to have a bad time.

Zerana1 votes

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I don't know. I'm pretty sure he's going to have a bad time.

Not on Imgur he's not,looks like people have had enough of undertale. I just thought those two were the best skeletons, next to this guy.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/49448/2413657-skeletor.jpg

Verns2 votes

How do i reply to a post?

Fishtaco6 votes

like this

Romtheguy1 votes

and like so, i did it too fear me

Mashuwu1 votes

Enemy first picked Karthus I proceeded to pickSoraka Mid, he didn't have a fun game

Snuby1 votes

I love denying Karthus kills with Raka ;)

CYÆGHA1 votes

Laning against a Yasuo orAhri as Karthus "Can't touch this"

Reaper55991 votes

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