"There's no way to tell if someone is elo boosted"

Katie Killjoy·Jan 12, 2017·16 votes·2,653 views

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Memeguel420Jan 12, 201712 votes

I think its possible to get good enough to climb from bronze to platinum in the span of an entire year, but then again i'm a pleb who can't get out of silver ._.

Katie KilljoyJan 12, 20172 votes

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I think its possible to get good enough to climb from bronze to platinum in the span of an entire year, but then again i'm a pleb who can't get out of silver ._.

It's possible but unlikely. When I was in bronze I saw people who were good but have bad connection and apparently bad computers. And after seeing how this person played, there's zero chance it was due to something other than his skill.

AeszarckJan 12, 20171 votes

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It's possible but unlikely. When I was in bronze I saw people who were good but have bad connection and apparently bad computers. And after seeing how this person played, there's zero chance it was due to something other than his skill.

I had a friend who started in Bronze III at the beginning of the season, and he got coached by our Diamond friend. He duo-queued a bit with the Diamond guy's smurf (yeah, I know, it isn't really right to do that sort of stuff), and my friend got to Gold. He was also playing solo though, and he kept climbing, even while not duo-queueing with the Diamond friend. He eventually made it to Platinum while solo climbing, and finished Platinum III. Despite the fact that he did duo queue with a smurf, the coaching he received as well as his own personally-attributable improvement allowed him to compete well in Platinum and even climb to the middle of the League by the end of the season.

I'm shocked with how good he is now. We were on relatively equal grounds at the beginning of the season (we even played a few 1v1's, and we both lost and won a few), but now he's so much better with me. Playing normals with him is an interesting experience, since he raises the MMR of the game quite a bit and I'm stuck facing better people than me every time. He does fine, and I do terribly.

Katie KilljoyJan 12, 20171 votes

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I had a friend who started in Bronze III at the beginning of the season, and he got coached by our Diamond friend. He duo-queued a bit with the Diamond guy's smurf (yeah, I know, it isn't really right to do that sort of stuff), and my friend got to Gold. He was also playing solo though, and he kept climbing, even while not duo-queueing with the Diamond friend. He eventually made it to Platinum while solo climbing, and finished Platinum III. Despite the fact that he did duo queue with a smurf, the coaching he received as well as his own personally-attributable improvement allowed him to compete well in Platinum and even climb to the middle of the League by the end of the season.

I'm shocked with how good he is now. We were on relatively equal grounds at the beginning of the season (we even played a few 1v1's, and we both lost and won a few), but now he's so much better with me. Playing normals with him is an interesting experience, since he raises the MMR of the game quite a bit and I'm stuck facing better people than me every time. He does fine, and I do terribly.

How long had he played prior? My friend reached lvl 7 mastery on Noc 1 week after I taught her about actual jungling (she used to take heal on Noc mid)

AeszarckJan 12, 20171 votes

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How long had he played prior? My friend reached lvl 7 mastery on Noc 1 week after I taught her about actual jungling (she used to take heal on Noc mid)

I think since season 4.

I guess the coaching really helped him. I'm certain that he was never truly "boosted" (as in my Diamond friend playing on his account) and that when I play with him I'm playing with the real "him" and not a guy playing on his account because he's a real life friend who I talk to on voice comms.

Katie KilljoyJan 12, 20172 votes

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I think since season 4.

I guess the coaching really helped him. I'm certain that he was never truly "boosted" (as in my Diamond friend playing on his account) and that when I play with him I'm playing with the real "him" and not a guy playing on his account because he's a real life friend who I talk to on voice comms.

Advice isn't boosting, he probably learned a lot.

Insanity SongJan 12, 20176 votes

https://derpicdn.net/img/view/2016/10/23/1280056__safe_screencap_cute_smiling_animated_open+mouth_eyes+closed_grin_changeling_laughing.gif John Cena always makes me chuckle

Katie KilljoyJan 12, 20174 votes

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https://derpicdn.net/img/view/2016/10/23/1280056__safe_screencap_cute_smiling_animated_open+mouth_eyes+closed_grin_changeling_laughing.gif John Cena always makes me chuckle

Changelings always make me smile. They're so cute.

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Insanity SongJan 12, 20172 votes

Well now a lot of them are Changedlings https://derpicdn.net/img/view/2016/11/3/1287768__safe_solo_screencap_flying_changeling_angry_cropped_to+where+and+back+again_spoiler-colon-s06e26_changedling.png https://derpicdn.net/img/2016/11/8/1291244/large.png

Katie KilljoyJan 12, 20171 votes

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Well now a lot of them are Changedlings https://derpicdn.net/img/view/2016/11/3/1287768__safe_solo_screencap_flying_changeling_angry_cropped_to+where+and+back+again_spoiler-colon-s06e26_changedling.png https://derpicdn.net/img/2016/11/8/1291244/large.png

SPOILERS D:

Insanity SongJan 12, 20171 votes

Sorry bud didnt know if you actually watch the show or not

Katie KilljoyJan 12, 20171 votes

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Sorry bud didnt know if you actually watch the show or not

It's all good :^)

SkorchJan 12, 20176 votes

Thats actually possible. The REAL way to tell is if someone is in bronze, SWITCHES SUMMONER SPELL ORDER then goes on like a 20 winning streak.

Katie KilljoyJan 12, 20171 votes

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Thats actually possible. The REAL way to tell is if someone is in bronze, SWITCHES SUMMONER SPELL ORDER then goes on like a 20 winning streak.

This is silver, not bronze.

Supreme Senpai69Jan 12, 20171 votes

Tbf there's a 50% chance that the booster uses the same order. So that way is only like, 50% accurate. If it does happen then yes, they are boosted, but if it doesn't happen they can still be boosted

SkorchJan 12, 20171 votes

Yeah its one of those things where It IS a giveaway, but not the only giveaway. (although im not sure if the numbers for the keys are exactly 50/50)

Supreme Senpai69Jan 12, 20171 votes

Riot released the info. Im too lazy to look it up, but they said that the winrate for flash being on the 'D' key was slightly, slightly higher than 'F.' Thought it was interesting

SkorchJan 12, 20171 votes

I think i remember something like that. Win rate was higher with flash on D, but the only rank to use flash more on D was Challenger and it was by around 0.5%, every other rank had majority of F on flash.

I don't know if it is possible that that scewed results. But maybe.

Bodkins OddsJan 12, 20171 votes

I seem to remember it being the other way around, with Flash having a 0.5% higher winrate on the F key. Does anyone have a link to the study?

MatthewRT2Jan 12, 20174 votes

ok, this doesnt mean they are elo boosted, some times people get stuck in bronze because of team mates and next season they abused dynamic que to get higher with pre mades

DynikusJan 12, 20174 votes

they abused dynamic que to get higher with pre mades

isn't that basically the definition of boosted?

ph1234kJan 12, 20173 votes

No boosting is defined by paying someone to get your account to a higher elo.

Katie KilljoyJan 12, 20172 votes

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No boosting is defined by paying someone to get your account to a higher elo.

No, that's professional boosting. When I was silver and taking a break from League, my diamond friend asked me if he could use my account to play because long queue times and he would get me to gold/plat in exchange. No money was offered, so would that be allowed?

ph1234kJan 12, 20173 votes

Boosting is a very particular thing, and as far as I know Riot only calls people who pay for it or people who get paid doing it boosters.

As far as whether what you mentioned is allowed, no. Sharing your account with anyone, for any reason is against the rules. You are the only person ever allowed to use your login information and the only person allowed to take activity of any kind while you are logged in.

EDIT: Just checked, the paid part is irrelevant.

Katie KilljoyJan 12, 20175 votes

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ok, this doesnt mean they are elo boosted, some times people get stuck in bronze because of team mates and next season they abused dynamic que to get higher with pre mades

Abusing dynamic queue is boosting.

ph1234kJan 12, 20173 votes

Riot has covered this, the use of the word "abuse" here is unwarranted.

Queueing with people is not boosting, even if they are significantly better than you.

Here is Riot's page on boosting with definition: https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201751834-MMR-Elo-Boosting

Katie KilljoyJan 12, 20172 votes

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Riot has covered this, the use of the word "abuse" here is unwarranted.

Queueing with people is not boosting, even if they are significantly better than you.

Here is Riot's page on boosting with definition: https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201751834-MMR-Elo-Boosting

So Dekar173 was perfectly fine taking money from donators and playing games with them in Silver until they were gold? Well shit. I better go play with some ~~donators~~ friends

Also, this is an old page about security of your account when trying to be boosted.

ph1234kJan 12, 20172 votes

"Perfectly fine" and actually against the rules are different things.

Was it fine? No, obviously. Just like your name, it is against the rules.

Is it punishable? Only with proof, because the actions he took in game did not violate the rules you would need to prove that he was getting paid with the intention of boosting these players.

Katie KilljoyJan 12, 20171 votes

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"Perfectly fine" and actually against the rules are different things.

Was it fine? No, obviously. Just like your name, it is against the rules.

Is it punishable? Only with proof, because the actions he took in game did not violate the rules you would need to prove that he was getting paid with the intention of boosting these players.

Name isn't against the rules. It's not hate speech. It's a fetish :^) also an old meme

And Dekar played with people who donated on stream. But he added them as friends on the account, played, then deleted them. If anyone from Riot defends this, then we're all screwed. And they wouldn't. Did you notice DQ and SQ are now separate? It's because now there's no point to legal boost, you gotta account share, which is easier to prove.

ph1234kJan 13, 20171 votes

I mean if they are doing it on stream then it is super easy to prove though.

TakazakiJan 13, 20171 votes

no one gets stuck in bronze because of their team

MatthewRT2Jan 13, 20171 votes

support mains

TakazakiJan 13, 20171 votes

Annie Blitzcrank Karma Lux Morgana Sona Thresh Velkoz

smurfed in bronze with morgana ( she a bit busted at the time ) , would consistently win 4v5's ( my team with the afk). if you're stuck in bronze you deserve to be bronze

The Ender CobraJan 12, 20173 votes

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AfterTheFallJan 12, 20173 votes

This isnt proof of anything. I have two league accounts. One i play ranked on all the time (gold/platinum elo), and the other i played enough to get placed in bronze and left it at that every season. This year im climbing on the second account and its going from bronze last season to gold/platinum elo this season. So the op.gg from my second account would look exactly the same as the one you use for an example. Doesnt have anything to do with boosting. Just means im actually putting the time in to climb on it

General Esdeath Jan 12, 20172 votes

Wait, bronze? So you trolling in games to lose?

Hrd2H1tJan 12, 20172 votes

to be fair it is possible he was a great player who sucked at carrying, so when he was placed a little higher in s6 he was able to actually climb.

Katie KilljoyJan 12, 20171 votes

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to be fair it is possible he was a great player who sucked at carrying, so when he was placed a little higher in s6 he was able to actually climb.

He pretty much sucked at everything. When we asked him to rotate he had no idea what it was. He thought if he killed the enemy tower, he won lane. He was 0/6 and they were banging on our inhib turret.

Hrd2H1tJan 12, 20171 votes

My theory has been proven incorrect.

9 XJan 12, 20171 votes

That's not very telling to me.

I started playing ranked as Season 5 ended, started Season 6 Bronze, ended Season 6 Gold, hit Platinum in pre-Season 7 and then hit Platinum again when Season 7 started.

Gotta love winning and losing at the right time.

LOL someone being jelly.

Katie KilljoyJan 12, 20171 votes

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That's not very telling to me.

I started playing ranked as Season 5 ended, started Season 6 Bronze, ended Season 6 Gold, hit Platinum in pre-Season 7 and then hit Platinum again when Season 7 started.

Gotta love winning and losing at the right time.

Except that's bronze to gold to plat in 2 seasons. This person went from b2 to p5 in one season and experienced a change in champs, win/play rates, cs, KDA, and has a 1:1 KDA with 60% winrate in silver. I've seen plenty of people from plat+ play in silver. They don't change their main champs.

9 XJan 12, 20172 votes

That would be purely technicality, as if I made my push literally a month sooner (or didn't take a six month vacation for that matter) I could be sporting a Platinum banner right now.

I definitely changed up my main champions.

Katie KilljoyJan 12, 20172 votes

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That's not very telling to me.

I started playing ranked as Season 5 ended, started Season 6 Bronze, ended Season 6 Gold, hit Platinum in pre-Season 7 and then hit Platinum again when Season 7 started.

Gotta love winning and losing at the right time.

LOL someone being jelly.

Jelly? Nah. Just skeptical.

Covert Ops GnarJan 12, 20171 votes

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ye dood not boosted

Katie KilljoyJan 12, 20171 votes

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ye dood not boosted

That's not a very drastic change in champs. You clearly prefer support, and defensive ones. Your secondary looks like mid. I would look further if you suddenly had a surge of playing Riven top.

Masala ChaiJan 12, 20171 votes

Jungler hard stuck in SIlver S5, finished low Challenger S6.

sythoJan 12, 20171 votes

Is it "Forever Toast"? Thats my brother who got bronze to plat

Katie KilljoyJan 13, 20171 votes

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Is it "Forever Toast"? Thats my brother who got bronze to plat

Nope. Can't include name but it's not him.

My Gender VariesJan 12, 20171 votes

My main account is banned on the boards for reasons. I started playing in preseason for season 6.

But I went from B5 in the start of season 6, to P5 for the end of it.

Then again, I played 3000 games in one season. I think that has something to do with it.

Special KayJan 12, 20171 votes

Dude going from bronze to play is completely possible, I have friends that have done it and I went from silver to diamond in S3. If you are playing and actually improving it will show in your rank.