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Shroom Junkie10 votes

Every time I play Teemo, the enemy laner rushes Sunfire Cape. Then when I play Tryndamere or some AD, the enemy laner rushes Spirit Visage.

I'd say I'm fine with it, but this includes my team's brain workings too.

Malicious Metal5 votes

Silver 2, eh? Reaching for gold, are you?^^

Anyways, Garen used to be THE Mordekaiser counter pick pre-rework but Morde has the potential to absolutely trash him if you play the Metal Man well so I sure hope you won that game.

TheMinez3 votes

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Silver 2, eh? Reaching for gold, are you?^^

Anyways, Garen used to be THE Mordekaiser counter pick pre-rework but Morde has the potential to absolutely trash him if you play the Metal Man well so I sure hope you won that game.

I did win pretty handily

Bídoof3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Malicious Metal,realm=EUW,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=8UrGjlk4,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-04-27T20:37:21.455+0000)

Silver 2, eh? Reaching for gold, are you?^^

Anyways, Garen used to be THE Mordekaiser counter pick pre-rework but Morde has the potential to absolutely trash him if you play the Metal Man well so I sure hope you won that game.

Hey I got a question. I have never played more, how does he fair vs: Zed, Yasuo, and Jayce?

They always dumpster me when I lane vs them

Melledoneus1 votes

For Zed, as long as you somehow avoid his early poke, you outscale him hard.

Yasuo? Heh. Just avoid his dashing thing early on and you can destroy him.

Jayce is a little more difficult, but you do outscale him. However, Jayce has a lot of poke, so you need to play that lane right. Jayce is one tough nut to crack.

Raid Boss Morde1 votes

Yasuo is a very easy match up for Morde once you've hit level 3.

Jayce is difficult until you hit 6, but after that, he's really easy to trade with.

Now Zed... he used to be one of the easiest lanes for Mordekaiser pre-rework, but he's a lot more difficult to fight now, because all of your damage is across 3 slow autos. During this time, Zed will be using his mobility to make it hard to hit him when he all ins, and if you can even get to your 3rd Q, Zed will blink away with his ult.

Before Mordes rework, you could just burst Zed down right when he ulted you.

Asyde5 votes

Some people just build the same builds, in the same order every game. They don't adapt to who their playing. That deserves a /facepalm

However, I've certainly built item 3068 first against an AP top laner myself. Typically this was due to the fact the rest of their team was heavy AD, so I was prepping to be strong as soon as early game was over.

But if the top laner is oppressively strong or fed, you gotta build some MR or your just more useless than you already are.

HayRoss1 votes

Some builds are so versatile that they can work against virtually any team

Garen item 3071 item 1306 item 3742 item 3065 item 3053 item 3142

Works all the time for me. Only needs changing if they're really AD or AP heavy

agbudar1 votes

item 3812 is also an awesome item for garen it makes him super tanky in teamfights were you soak up tons of damage.

usually as a 5th or 6th item its for when you get to late game

HayRoss1 votes

I've heard about it being a really good item on Garen, but I've never actually bothered with it. Time to science, then

Rendarkan1 votes

item 3046 works well I been playing around with it in his kit compared to Ghostblade.

HayRoss1 votes

But Garen just doesn't need attack speed. Q+E, then leave, wait a few seconds, then try again

Rendarkan1 votes

But that crit on his spin and the extra chase speed...

Garen item 3071 item 3065 item 3068 item 3046 item 3742 item 3083

HayRoss1 votes

Well if you want to go faster as Garen, I would first advise boots

Duke Anax2 votes

"Moderkaiser is an ADC now, duh!"

Sahn Uzal2 votes

I mean... the item 3751 is fine... but he shoulda gone MR af ter that :|

Lord Galvatron2 votes

I constantly play with Gold and Platinum players, and I consistently see people play Devourer Fizz, and supports who rush Ruby Sightstone. To be honest, I am almost certain this doesn't stop until you get to Diamond and above.

B1naryB0t1 votes

Most people in Diamond and above just have average build intelligence with insane mechanics.

Lord Galvatron1 votes

Really? Through other people I know who are higher ranked, I find the people in Diamond have very good build and mechanic sensibility, but when it comes to decision making (obj. or kill based) they are still complete monkeys.

Soldier of 4Jhin1 votes

Difference between gold/silver is a mixture of mechanics and building but difference between plat/gold is objectives/decision making but you can make it pretty far with just only one of these things if your good enough

B1naryB0t1 votes

Actually, Diamond is where teams finally get good at decision making I find. The big thing they struggle with is that sometimes their builds make no sense, or they don't understand little nuances to the game.

My favorite thing about diamond is the insults though. Plat and below the insults are just the standard "uninstall" or "drink bleach", but in Diamond, people are actually creative with their insults, and you never see the same one twice.

Lord Galvatron1 votes

ehh, I feel that the insults just turn into an constant slog of passive-agressive comments, and constant comments after you die like "lol" or "?".

Soldier of 4Jhin1 votes

Devourer fizz is actually good with guinsoos it allows you to go tank and be good at dueling/waveclear check my main account "God of Ascension" 70k points on fizz and gold 3 almost gold 2

Stars Shaper1 votes

Hehe, I had a similar experience against a Poppy that rushed item 3024

Swaid1 votes

What a goof.

agbudar1 votes

free kills!! [zombie-nunu-hearts] i dont see the problem

charcharmunro1 votes

People rush Sunfire on pretty much every toplaner because "OH MY GOD SUNFIRE + ICEBORN IS SO BROKEN". Or something.

Scoroct1 votes

I once played Illaoi and the enemy rushed a spirit visage against me, and we were basically a full AD team. I felt so sorry I almost told him that I did physical damage.

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