Remember When Veigar Was a Subpar Pick and Rarely Seen?

A Superb Villain··93 votes·4,670 views

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"Know, that if the tables were turned, I would show you no mercy!"

Oh, how the tables have turned.

38 Comments

Maple Crusader16 votes

So that's what happens when Lulu ults Veigar.

Athenes Lulu2 votes

Yeah I did it :)

yay nibbers3 votes

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Heretic Lunari14 votes

Things to expect from LCS sheeps, sadly.

Kal Vas Flam3 votes

I was playing him before it was cool. I was also playing Naut top, Shen supp, and Brand supp before it was cool.

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MacbethAndCheese12 votes

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Malevolent Metal1 votes

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Things to expect from LCS sheeps, sadly.

My lord they are EVERYWHERE! I am tired of kicking out ad-carry Kennens from TeamBuilder queues and other odd picks from LCS!

Dehorn7 votes

veigar won 3 games during worlds, 2 of which he did nothing and got carried. but because veigar isnt your standard mid that has been dominating LCS for the past year, everyone's head exploded.

L Rayquaza6 votes

I find it hilarious that there have been minimum changes to Veigar, people always said he was a moderate mage, and now that he has seen LCS play he is suddenly op, it is like when Twitch got his visual update, he was always that powerful and no one knew because no one played him just because he was ugly

MAN OF INTELLECT3 votes

My, how big he's grown!

Solis Deus4 votes

that's what she said.

Captainn Ginyu3 votes

idk i dont watch LCS i just like playing viegarr cause 1.5k AP is sexy llol

Byakuya Kuchiki1 votes

then why not just play cass?

Jari4 votes

Because Cass's damage is all in one ability, where Veigar's is technically more spread out. So more fun.

ChaoticPinecone1 votes

Cass caps out a lot lower if you want boots and a void staff.

Boots, Void (80), ROA (100), Deathcap (120), NLR item (120), Seraphs (80) + Seraphs Passive (96) + Runes (15+27) + Masteries (22)= 660 (740 with Baron and blue pot). Deathcap Passive, Casssiopeia passive, and offensive masteries multiply that by 35+30+5, which totals 1122 (1258 with Baron and Blue pot).

Veigar can get more if he follows the same build and farms like 250 AP.

The Ellimiist1 votes

Cuz cass can fail. Vieg at 1.2k+ can just flash/walk up and press R xD

Captainn Ginyu1 votes

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then why not just play cass?

cause im not good with cass lol

Tyaldan3 votes

You mean like a month ago? The buffs he got werent huge, but someone picked him in pro play or something i guess.

Zair Umbras1 votes

The buffs were actually substantial. The Q was buffed to give the 5 AP on Assists as well as kills, so say your jungle is helping you, but you've gone oom because early mana costs OP and your jungler takes the kill like he should. Well, normally you'd go B and cry as you missed out on 5 AP. Now you go B and look at that free 5 Q farm you just got by pressing E. His W also lost .25s off of it's drop time since its countdown now starts when clicked rather than at the end of the cast time. His W was given reliability and his Q now gives AP a lot more often.

I should point out before his W dropped in 1.45s and his base stun lasted for 1.5s. Usually it took you about .25s-.5s to pressing W since you're not always in range for the W when they hit the wall. Well, now with 2 levels into your E, you can then level your W second properly and abuse the large base damage it does rather than having to put 3+ points into it so the enemy would be stunned long enough to actually take the W's damage. Considering his W has a 300 damage base (Being nerfed next patch) can now be achieved at level 14 rather than at max level on top of getting 5 AP for every assist after your max level Q... To put it simply, Veigar got a lot of reliability added to his abilities after his Q was turned into a skill shot and his E was given a delay. He's not got 'about' the same amount of reliability he had before, which was what made him strong before. Now he's just gotta be tuned down oh so slightly.

FistOfSharkiesha2 votes

He has about 1 patch in the limelight. He's getting nerfed again. Veigar along with Evelyn is a champ that Riot will not allow to be good, or even viable.

Uiraya1 votes

Are you comparing what's happened to Veigar to what's happening and will continue to happen to Evelynn? Evelynn wishes she got "compensation" like Veigar did. The only champ who's been hammered into the ground harder than Eve is Sona.

My Waifu Vanilla1 votes

He's referring to all of the veigar nerfs on PBE that lack any "compensation"

TurquoiseYoshi2 votes

So ready for that to be a skin next February.

juice loosener2 votes

that's because everyone was short-sighted :D

A Superb Villain1 votes

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Blades of Navori1 votes

Ugh Veigar. I thought it was funny when I built item 3003 early against Veigar for sustain and he whined over all chat "I'm only losing because you didn't build AP"

That poor Veigar was mana starved...

But now people are springing up as him and it's kind of funny because none of them seem to understand how his Q and E work.

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Boulderox1 votes

Velkoz can do decently well against veigar. And pushed a lot better imo. Has little mobilty like him as well, but safety always outdoes in my book.

A Superb Villain1 votes

As can Xerath since both are long-range poke mages that can stay safely behind their front line while still dealing damage.

Boulderox1 votes

Amen brother.

Glory to God1 votes

My instincts say that the Mage Meta approaches.

AHappyFamily1 votes

No...

9kPluzZ1 votes

remember when he got 3 major overbuffs after the rework that made his stun, dark matter drop, and q passive strong? yah me too

Shifune1 votes

Veigar was never subpar, he was just only picked ad a counterpick. Now people blind pick him.

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