Rengar vs Kha'zix

YoungManhatten·Jul 23, 2014·27 votes·1,727 views

After seeing the cinematic today, it reminded me of a topic I've been meaning to inquire about on the boards. I know it's not a HUGE issue that throws off the balance of the game, but am i the only one who feels that winning the "The Hunt is On" quest as Rengar is not nearly as beneficial or satisfying as winning it as Kha'zix. Kha'zix gets to have a fourth evolution, which greatly benefits him. Rengar just gets full stacks, something he probably at the point in the game when they fight would have anyways, it is even less satisfying post rework seeing as how you cant lose stacks as Rengar anyways. Just curious if Riot ever plans on addressing this.

25 Comments

Quantum WeebJul 23, 20146 votes

Imo, the event should have been reworked with Rengar. Now that Rengar no longer has to worry about losing stacks, having a fully stacked Bonetooth Necklace at all times isn't nearly as valuable. In addition, since Rengar needs at least 10 stacks to start the event, and he gains 1 from killing Kha. This means Rengar can receive a maximum of 9 stackes, which really isn't all that much.

RiotBandiboot LegendJul 23, 20145 votes

lol

YoungManhattenJul 23, 20141 votes

this works for me lol :p

PhoenixUnrealJul 24, 20141 votes

Lol at least your post got some note! My post just sits at the top of the list and gets no love Forever alone Galio

The Legend MomoJul 23, 20143 votes

How about if rengar wins the hunt, he gains all previous rewards and gains two ferocity whenever he uses his q. He also gains 2 ferocity whenever he kills a champion. Or... Rengar's abilities have increased effects. Q: Deals 100 more damage W: Heal is increased by 10% E: Slow duration is increased by .5 seconds and stun duration is increased by .5 seconds. R: Rengar gains 30 armor and 30 Magic resist 3 seconds after exiting stealth

What do you guys think? Rengar

ChaosThiefJul 23, 20141 votes

It's a root,not a stun by the way. And let's not give rengar a huge advantage to winning it since he'll win it anyway.

Messiah96Jul 25, 20141 votes

I think it is a great idea!

YoungManhattenJul 23, 20142 votes

Thanks so much for sharing ideas and helping with this thread, if we keep discussing we might be able to attract the attention of a rioter. Again thanks guys.

ChaosThiefJul 23, 20141 votes

Kha'zix doesn't really get much either, since most people won't evolve his ult. His ult gives him an extra second and a third cast, but much more thinking is required than to just catch up to an opponent.

The Legend MomoJul 23, 20141 votes

It also gives him a third passive proc, which is huge if you actually basic attack after every aa like your supposed to.

ChaosThiefJul 23, 20141 votes

A third cast can mean a lot, but not nearly as much as i used to. Also, I did mention a third cast. EDIT: It isn't nearly as impacting as rengar's full trophies.

TornrakmosJul 23, 20141 votes

wait … who dosnt upgrade ult lol…. it gives you 3 procs of your passive which op.

ChaosThiefJul 23, 20141 votes

Compared to a 50% slow, massive damage to Q, and range+ resets, yeah there's a reason to not evolve your ult.

Messiah96Jul 25, 20141 votes

But if you are able to proc a massive damage of your Q 3x i think that outwieghs the slow of 50%. (Not even gonna mention the movement speed boost from upgrading your ult...)

ChaosThiefJul 25, 20141 votes

Um... Do you mean his passive? Your Q doesn't get isolation when stealthed, I'm pretty sure.

Messiah96Jul 28, 20141 votes

No the passive is proc'ed when you go into stealth and the passive is that you do slow the enemy. Your q does lots of damage even when and enemy is not isolated and im not even talkin about his passive there lol.

ChaosThiefJul 29, 20141 votes

"proc a massive damage of your Q 3x" ????? I'm lost.

The LexerJul 23, 20141 votes

I've suggested giving Rengar a bonus effect at 4 ferocity, but people didn't like that last time

LneacxJul 23, 20141 votes

Does it really even matter? The Hunt is On is an easter egg event - time spent balancing an easter egg is worth less than balancing more relevant gameplay features.

ParinoidPandaJul 23, 20143 votes

Yes, but it's an easter egg that directly effects gameplay in a very important way. It needs a little love to make the risks involved fairer for Rengar.

RhytoJul 23, 20143 votes

I for one enjoy this "Easter Egg" It really brings out the lore between the two champions and really makes the match much suspenseful especially if both are good players.

2000boxesJul 23, 20141 votes

Well a lvl 18 rengar is much better than a lvl 18 kha zix If kha zix doesn't instaburst rengar from a bush then rengar will just instantly just e q q w and then kha zix will be dead by then

MessaigaJul 23, 20141 votes

Maybe it adds an additional bonus to Rengar's BTN? Example:

Bonetooth Necklace:

3 - Rengar gains 25 flat movement speed while out of combat or while in brush. 6 Trophies - Unseen Predator's range is increased by 125. 12 - Thrill of the Hunt's stealth duration is increased by 5 seconds. 20 - Thrill of the Hunt's bonus movement speed while stealthed is doubled. Head Of Kha'Zix - Rengar generates 2 ferocity over 2 seconds after he uses an empowered ability.

tamorrakJul 23, 20141 votes

I agree that winning as Kha is more beneficial at the moment. Perhaps giving Rengar another ability benefit (such as when he gains range on his leap or extra time on his ult) would give more meaning to Rengar winning the quest. Maybe something like +25% tenacity, not 100% sure what it could be.

YoungManhattenJul 23, 20141 votes

Yeah, I think adding some type of benefit to one of his abilities or an extra stat would be awesome.