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Thornmail

ULTRA RAMOOSE··1 votes·196 views

item 3075

  • Tier Advanced
  • Stats +100 armor
  • Passive Unique: On being hit by basic attacks, returns 30% of damage, before any reductions such as armor, as magic damage.

Almost nothing counts as a basic attack, why would you have a piece of armor that only affects a tiny amount of champs that rely on basic attacks. I would like a change in this armor to reflect all AD attacks at 35% and AP at 10% (it would be the only stat that would help mitigate a fed kayle)

6 Comments

Roaranor3 votes

Like Tyrion said, it's a niche item. That is, it isn't meant to be a standard buy for any occasion. You build it to deal with specific champions that are completely auto attack reliant but have insane snowballing (ie. Tryndamere, Fiora, Xin Zhao, Any Marksmen not being played as an AD Caster, Master Yi, Aatrox, etc.

Furthermore, it's not meant to be built buy everyone. It's an item for champions that are already tanky. It's considered core on Rammus because he has a taunt to force champions into auto'ing and is generally the go-to champ for Snowballing aa champs.

If they expanded this item to reflect all AD attacks, tanks or pseduo-tanks that built this would become insanely powerful and Marksmen would drop significantly, leading to a pretty big off-balance.

If you have AD Champs that don't rely on auto's, build a Randuins or Sunfire Cape instead. Almost nothing counts as a basic attack OTHER THAN ACTUAL BASIC ATTACKS THEMSELVES.

Bubble Butt Lulu2 votes

It's a niche item. It's in a good spot and is a good buy vs certain champions/team comps.

ULTRA RAMOOSE1 votes

You don't understand almost nothing is considered a basic hit, not any spell at all. So this is only viable for tryndamere, ashe and maybe jinx, but not much else. Even ashe's frost shot does not count as a basic hit

I Main Swain2 votes

you gotta be kidding me. it applies to every adc in the game except not quite as much corki. and a ton of ad scaling abilities that are single target are considered a sort of auto, (ie Gangplank q that's why Fiora w and Pantheon passive block it.) its viable for most ad champs in the game. also, like everyone else has said, its a niche item. it is meant for situations, not to get as a general must have. don't go by my word that it will apply with the "technically considered auto" abilities, but im pretty sure that is the case.

Kira Onime1 votes

Thormail is usually my last item when I play a tank againts an all AD team.

Noam Braumsky1 votes

I love this item. I counters most adcs, whose main attack is their basic.

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