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qiyana is unplayable, if she doesn't get some sort of buff soon i'm gonna want a bundle refund.

B1GST0NE·6/30/2019, 11:40:01 PM·4 votes·1,350 views

Hi, I've played about 20 games of qiyana now. I'm 1-19 with the one win being qiyana support. I know everyones playing tft and doesn't care about this champ, but I was excited about her because I like ad assassins. She is legitimately the worst champ every released in league.

The problem is she is not an ad assassin. Her kit is entirely weak and useless except for a decent root and a super strong ult.

Akali has received about 100 nerfs already and is still dramatically stronger in every way to qiyana. Even if you outplay or get fed, qiyana is still weaker then pretty much any other champ given the same money.

The 30% winrate isn't lying.

And before you give me the "shes new so no one knows how to play her line"- I have been buying and playing new champs since beta, and regardless of how complicated they were none of them have been even remotely close to this bad regardless of learning curve. Yuumi was losing on release for a myriad of reasons related to people not understanding her, qiyana is an entirely different case where shes actually just a terrible champ.

And before you give me the "shes weak in solo q because she will be too strong in competitive" line- How does that even matter when theres so many broken competitive champs already, they rework tahm to be a solo q and competitive nightmare. There has been 3 versions of aatrox that are absolutely busted in pro play. Riot does a terrible job already of balancing champs for competitive, its no excuse for making champs that can't be played in solo q and lower elo. Let her be playable in the real game that we all enjoy, and then balance her for lcs.

So i bought the battle boss bundle for her on release and if she doesn't receive a hotfix soon then thats fine, but please give me back my rp and my blue essence because she is incredibly bad.

on the note of what she needs, her w needs more movement. her stealth needs to be longer or larger. she needs more damage on her high rank q's or passive. She really could use some sort of sustain or shield, or wave clear, and more passive speed on the w might make it actually useful as well.

Also the fact she can't get river or brush while in base, and no river in twisted treeline, is just complete proof that shes a half made champ.

And if you haven't played her then please don't comment. If you've played her 10 games or so and disagree with me then by all means, explain where im wrong.

8 Comments

nosafterburn6/30/2019, 11:54:50 PM4 votes

I've played just about as many as you with her. Her animations are so slow compared to others. The damage can be good, especially the rock damage on low health targets, but I agree with you she needs some help. Even by building buiser items on her she still seems very squishy. Im reminded of an AD Diana all these ways in on a target if close enough but gotta walk outta danger. You can only hop so far.

KFCeytron6/30/2019, 11:51:13 PM1 votes

> "qiyana is unplayable" > "played about 20 games of qiyana"

[sg-lux-2]

Get Ogre Here6/30/2019, 11:51:32 PM1 votes

Lol well..

  1. It's outlined when you buy a bundle that they were not refundable, so that's not happening.

  2. You should have played her before buying the bundle..

Jimmy Rustles6/30/2019, 11:56:29 PM1 votes

https://i.imgur.com/ppB5fOL.png

Super OP champ, wtb buffs

Mantipede7/1/2019, 12:17:11 AM1 votes

I've had a few on my team today and we stomped.

Our opponents didn't seem completely awful either.

SOTE POP7/1/2019, 3:00:50 AM1 votes

her e needs to be a dash or the q range needs to pull you a little closer to the target so you can dodge other than that a little clunky in the animations

Lord Dusteon6/30/2019, 11:50:26 PM1 votes

Part of the problem might be the various bugs she has; I'd hesitate to call her weak until those are fixed, especially since several of them are severe power nerfs when they happen (like her Q no longer being reliable or useful).

Kasaikan7/1/2019, 10:39:39 PM1 votes

Let me leave my toughs about Qiyana, so I played around 4 games as her, and had here in 8 games in total.

Qiyana is good during Early, early-mid stage game. Her Q + W reset allows her to poke and then quickly pickup kills. I found her most proficient on top, when she have easy time hitting her R on walls.(basically poppy stuff) But there is where her strength is ending. Earth Q - crit in late stages are bugged or wakened, just crit become laughably rare even if enemy is under 50% hp, in many team fights hitting her ult is like miracle(ofc earth one), W use ends on picking up elements or jumping through pit's wall, her E is in most cases suicide without any shield or lifesteal.

Wind Q - i think its easier to land, and give you invisiblity so if u had coldown on W u can cast this one for inv and then shot earth for dmg but its not like super great, its better to throw 2 earth or 1 water ones with root and earth with dmg, but you can use it to annoy enemy.

Water Q - Root with low dmg, only to be used with other Q or to stop enemy.

Longer game last, harder time Qiyana has, her Q even landing 3 times in a row is nothing near taking 1/3 hp of most brusiers, champions like talon/zed can one shot her before she could execute her "combo", even if she can kill adc with landing R and 2 earth Q(seems easy enough? WRONG if enemy is smart enough to not position himself near wall you can dream on taking him down)she is immediately smashed by enemy assasin/brusier or even mage.

Her passive is also interesting case, during those 4 games using her pas with auto atacks is hard without getting heavily punished, in most cases i was forced to poke enemy with Q(wind/grass one is nice for it, throw Q, stay in invisibility and shot another invi Q, then back off. kind of akali's w thing)

Summary:

Good in early game passive is hard to use on ranged champions(i said she fits top, right?) her Q lacks pover spike, its like 3 skills with shared coldown her W is aatrox E her E is suidcide her R is so situational that item 3056 is embarrassed

My recommended changes: {Sustain} Her W, i suggest some bonuses connect with chose of element ex. earth - shield water - heal wind - speed {Assasination} or Reset to make it even more spamable: ex. every 2 hits coldown reset (passive becomes more usseful, incerased dmg) {Q rework} Her W dont have any coldown resets(i mean existing one on Q) her Q can save up to 3 stacks and their elements (taking new one would overwrite oldest) {Mobility survival} Her E should give her shield or smh.