Death's Dance change on PBE

Sucction·2/22/2020, 5:55:48 AM·1 votes·7,902 views

...Don't you think that's a little silly, Rito? 30 Armor and Mr in exchange for 20 AD? Is that really an equivalent exchange?

Gold efficiency aside, that is huge. Even ADCs are gonna start abusing this, and making non-Syndra mages just completely fade out of existence.

How on earth is Swain, Vel'Koz or Annie going to compete with such a thing? Death's Dance + PD ADCs are going to be crazy, and juggernauts are going to be immortal.

40 Comments

Zyniya2/22/2020, 6:12:16 AM15 votes

OMG you mean I might NOT get one shot by a mage that flashes over the wall from behind my team for me?

Shatter the Sun2/22/2020, 6:36:58 AM4 votes

You realize Juggs should be "immortal" right? They dont have any way to close the distance against those Syndras and annies and need to both resists/damage/health in order to be useful. Thats 3 stats. ADCs need damage/Attack speed Mages need damage/Mana/CDR/ ADCs get their item spikes faster because their items are cheap and they only have to worry about 2 stats Mages have more to worry about which means they should be spending more but with most of their items covering 3 stats and even delving into bonus stats like health and resists they dont even have to worry about such things.

Lovelle2/22/2020, 1:12:30 PM2 votes

You mean champs like Lee Sin and Riven are going to be immortal. They use Death's Dance better than anyone.

General Esdeath 2/22/2020, 6:15:43 AM2 votes

Tone down the resistances and it'll be fine tbh we all want damage lowered anyway uwu

LanceTheJungler2/22/2020, 6:43:17 AM2 votes

The only real problem I see with this is its designed for champions that want damage + survivability. So armor and MR should be good right? But the main champions that build it Aatrox Riven Fiora either have damage = sustain ( Aatrox E, Fiora lifesteal ) and / or AD = sustain ( Fiora vitals, Riven AD scaling shield ).

Gold efficiency wise 20 AD = 700 gold 30 AR = 600 gold 30 MR = 540 gold

So thats a big buff in the gold efficiency department.

Not counting DD's passives its worth 2100 + 266 + 600 + 540 = 3506 and Deaths Dance costs 3500 gold so it is now 100% gold efficient ( vs 3066 which is 88% gold efficiency ).

However when split pushing you will only use either armor or MR so this reduces these champions ability to split push but increases their ability to teamfight. Personally I really dislike these changes. I don't think we should be changing up bruiser item stats to match their cost, we should be simply decrease their cost. Also if they wanted to add defensive stats onto a bruiser item item 3053 is the one it should be on. Steraks is already the bruiser teamfight item and while it serves that purpose well, it's incompatibility with item 3156 /item 3155 gives bruisers a teamfight weakness to mages for no real reason. Though Steraks already has a perfect gold efficiency ( 3195 gold worth if used by a level 13 Aatrox ). In conclusion LET FUCKING MAW STACK WITH STERAKS.

Also why not just add Atma's Reckoning? https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Atma%27s_Reckoning

RandomDuck2/22/2020, 6:14:48 AM2 votes

I don't know if this matters but some of the damage taken will also be taken as a bleed effect so some champs will literally just out-heal

SammyDayspring3/3/2020, 3:51:49 AM1 votes

Death's Dance is already over-tuned. It's another Riot failure. No one should be doing that much damage and be unkillable at the same time. They never learn.

JustA kleo2/22/2020, 8:37:35 AM1 votes

vel koz does true damage and swain is still an undying fuck who no adc will ever beat in a 1v1 unless swain is afk

Lazy Grandpa2/22/2020, 3:25:32 PM1 votes

tbh i'm just excited for illaoi and riven to be more annoying to kill now

fawfuel2/23/2020, 7:17:18 AM1 votes

I think this is a solid change for deaths dance. Even though I'll hate seeing more riven and fiora because I play aatrox, this will give him better survival in teamfights.

Lord Zeta 13133/2/2020, 3:59:42 PM1 votes

DAMMNIT. They removed it from the PBE. Nononono. dont do this riot. Don't show us a gpood bruiser item and then never release it. DONT DO THIS TO US. DONT REPEAT ATMAS RECKONING.

I swear to fucking god riot. Don't do this.